Auction Fantasy Draft

1. Annah - Reus 10m,(19:34 UKtime)
2. Polaroid - Neymar 19m,
3. AldoPaine18 -
4. rpitroda - Beckham 52m, Ljungberg 25m Pires 36m
5. Stobzilla - Nani (10mil) Pedro (10 mil)
6. Edgar Allan Pillow - Robben 40m | Hazard (20 mil)
7. crappycraperson - Ribery 50m (8.00 UK time) , Steve McManaman (10m) ( 16.00 UK Time)
8. NM -, David Silva 20 M, Overmars 26 M
9. kps88 -
10. MJJ - Ronaldinho 85m(10:04) Ronaldo 100m(10:04)
11. Cutch - Kily Gonzalez 15m Joaquin 10m
12. VivaJanuzaj - Giggs(55M), Enrique 45M
13. Pippa - Zé [10M], Figo [67M]
14. NoPace
15. PaceMe -C Lopez 16m, Bale 43m
16. Fergus' son - Nedved 65m, Muller 30m
 
crappycraperson said:
Also @Polaroid

I thought about your transfer list idea. I think we should not hold it parallel with bidding rounds.

When a bidding round is over, if someone gets a player he does not want. He can transfer-list him for 12 hours.

If no bids come in for him, he can still sell him for 10m if he wants (taking the money hit )

For example. trippy here can list Ljunberg .. if someone buys him for 15m.. he gets that.. if not.. he can get 10m ... losing 15m in process.
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I would say sales can take place as soon as a player is owned by someone. I don't think there needs to be a specific time-frame for it. Trippy here may want to flog Ljungberg instantly if he gets three players, while other may want to flog someone in three days time to raise cash to buy a CM. I think that's a good option to have also in that it makes it less predictable what money people can count on, otherwise it starts getting easy to tell each manager has

300M-$SPENT-(12-squad size-1)*10M = LARGEST POSSIBLE BID ON X

From the moment managers can TRY raise funds it is all far less predictable.

It is all of course contingent on anyone being at all interested in buying a player off them, mind.
 
antohan said:
I would say sales can take place as soon as a player is owned by someone. I don't think there needs to be a specific time-frame for it. Trippy here may want to flog Ljungberg instantly if he gets three players, while other may want to flog someone in three days time to raise cash to buy a CM. I think that's a good option to have also in that it makes it less predictable what money people can count on, otherwise it starts getting easy to tell each manager has

300M-$SPENT-(12-squad size-1)*10M = LARGEST POSSIBLE BID ON X

From the moment managers can TRY raise funds it is all far less predictable.

It is all of course contingent on anyone being at all interested in buying a player off them, mind.
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It will make it too complicated.. not everyone is hyper active to keep up.

Also there should not be any reinforcement round.. you have to reward people who did well in regular bidding rounds rather giving people who did plan properly an out.
 
VivaJanuzaj said:
I still didn't get it, is Giggsy officially mine?
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At 8AM tomorrow he would be if unchallenged. 24H started clocking since 8AM this morning on all bids already made by then. Any introduced/raised thereafter reset their individual clocks to restart but yours hasn't been touched so it's running 8am-8am unless someone bids for Giggs.
 
crappycraperson said:
It will make it too complicated.. not everyone is hyper active to keep up.

Also there should not be any reinforcement round.. you have to reward people who did well in regular bidding rounds rather giving people who did plan properly an out.
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You mean not everyone is crappy? :lol:

Reinforcement rounds should always be a possibility, most people get bored otherwise, whether you are guaranteed reinforcements is a separate matter. I'm all for not making them certs.
 
antohan said:
You mean not everyone is crappy? :lol:

Reinforcement rounds should always be a possibility, most people get bored otherwise, whether you are guaranteed reinforcements is a separate matter. I'm all for not making them certs.
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To give an example.. suppose someone does not buy wingers here because he want to go diamond. And then can't get the midfielders he wants for a diamond.

So should he get an out and get to buy wingers in a last all positions round? I don't think so.

And I am in US for company work with no actual work. Even starting a WW game for the same reason :D
 
Annahnomoss said:
Seems like it'll be fun?

I'll let Polaroid decide on the issue I have been off-line sleeping so I have some catching up to do in the thread.
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I gave my suggestion about 12 hour transfer window for players after every bidding round. But @Polaroid has final call. I am fine with an active window alongside bidding as well.
 
antohan said:
Beckham-Pires would be fine, problem is I can't see anyone taking Ljungberg off you unless it is to pair him with Pires. There's always the option of resurrecting the Beckham CM debate... ;)
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Indeed. I think Pires and Llungberg are both still underpriced. Pires was a great player. Ljungberg too. But agree, unless someone takes one off me, one will have to be benched.
 
crappycraperson said:
Also @Polaroid

I thought about your transfer list idea. I think we should not hold it parallel with bidding rounds.

When a bidding round is over, if someone gets a player he does not want. He can transfer-list him for 12 hours.

If no bids come in for him, he can still sell him for 10m if he wants (taking the money hit )

For example. trippy here can list Ljunberg .. if someone buys him for 15m.. he gets that.. if not.. he can get 10m ... losing 15m in process.
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Managers can transfer list their players while bidding is going on. However if no other team bids for that player, he stays with his team. At the end of the bidding round, he is taken off the transfer list

Agree on posting bid time in BST/GMT beside the price
 
Polaroid said:
Yes we r givng managers the freedom to wheel and deal in the market
Those who hoard players risk having to dispose of them in fire sales, it is all down to their judgement as in real life transfer market
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Can someone sell wingers in future round as well?
 
Polaroid said:
Yes we r givng managers the freedom to wheel and deal in the market
Those who hoard players risk having to dispose of them in fire sales, it is all down to their judgement as in real life transfer market
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So we can go over the budget of 300m as long as we sell the players later to balance it up?
 
MJJ said:
So we can go over the budget of 300m as long as we sell the players later to balance it up?
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That sounds bad to be honest. They shouldn't be able to get more than 75% back at most no matter what they sell him for.
 
MJJ said:
So we can go over the budget of 300m as long as we sell the players later to balance it up?
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Team who fails to pay for winning bid loses the player to the 2nd highest bidder and pays a fine of 10 m, if they cannot pay the fine they have to sell to raise funds. This was mentioned earlier, not sure if annah has updated in OP
 
crappycraperson said:
Mm I Don agree with this. It again penalizes player who plan it properly. There is no point in position based rounds in thus case
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Willing seller willing buyer, it is the market at work, a desperate seller usually gets a lousy price. I am not fixated on the positions to be honest, it is just convenient for people to compare prices
 
crappycraperson said:
To give an example.. suppose someone does not buy wingers here because he want to go diamond. And then can't get the midfielders he wants for a diamond.

So should he get an out and get to buy wingers in a last all positions round? I don't think so.

And I am in US for company work with no actual work. Even starting a WW game for the same reason :D
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I thought you meant reinforcement rounds after the first round of MATCHES. yeah, I thought the argument against a theme-free bidding round at the end was watertight.
 
crappycraperson said:
Mm I Don agree with this. It again penalizes player who plan it properly. There is no point in position based rounds in thus case
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TBH, anyone who ends up putting his players up for sale is likely in more trouble than people who "plan it properly". I don't think there's any need to create an automatic penalty either. Most likely if you try sell a player you will receive less, or no offers at all, no one can bank on that.

On the other hand, someone who has Giggs, Scholes and Keane may want to come back to trippy and offer him 60M for Becks and if Trippy is a willing seller fair fecks. If he is stuck with three wide players it is likely he would have sold on the cheap earlier though.

feck knows really. Truth is the only time we tried some sort of swap market no one actually wanted to trade players because there was always one manager feeling the other team improved more. Bound to happen with no money to throw around to make up for the difference, which you do have here.
 
MJJ said:
So we can go over the budget of 300m as long as we sell the players later to balance it up?
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The risk of course is by then no one may have more than 20-30M + Valencia in p/ex to offer for your Cristiano. You may even need to fire sell BOTH Ronnie and Dinho to make ends meet.
 
Polaroid said:
Team who fails to pay for winning bid loses the player to the 2nd highest bidder and pays a fine of 10 m, if they cannot pay the fine they have to sell to raise funds. This was mentioned earlier, not sure if annah has updated in OP
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What if the second highest doesn't want him then. You can't force a player on someone
 
crappycraperson said:
What if the second highest doesn't want him then. You can't force a player on someone
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Yeah, makes little sense. What if the two bid a player way beyond reason, then you still have to pay your second highest bid.

Or like Crappy says you lose out on a player, then pick up a partner to him - then you end up forced with another player. If he goes out on the market again then it is still odd, as managers may already have made their picks.
 
antohan said:
The risk of course is by then no one may have more than 20-30M + Valencia in p/ex to offer for your Cristiano. You may even need to fire sell BOTH Ronnie and Dinho to make ends meet.
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If only I was moyes...that would be a dream transfer.


Only if I wanted ronaldinho's teeth fixed.
 
Annahnomoss said:
Yeah, makes little sense. What if the two bid a player way beyond reason, then you still have to pay your second highest bid.

Or like Crappy says you lose out on a player, then pick up a partner to him - then you end up forced with another player. If he goes out on the market again then it is still odd, as managers may already have made their picks.
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More to the point, the second highest bidder may never have been particularly interested in buying in the first place. If the hammer didn't go down for him he is under no obligation.
 
1. Annah - Reus 10m,(19:34 UKtime)
2. Polaroid - Neymar 19m,
3. AldoPaine18 - Robben 42m (2148 UK)
4. rpitroda - Beckham 52m, Ljungberg 25m Pires 36m
5. Stobzilla - Nani (10mil) Pedro (10 mil)
6. Edgar Allan Pillow - Hazard (20 mil)
7. crappycraperson - Ribery 50m (8.00 UK time) , Steve McManaman (10m) ( 16.00 UK Time)
8. NM -, David Silva 20 M, Overmars 26 M
9. kps88 -
10. MJJ - Ronaldinho 85m(10:04) Ronaldo 100m(10:04)
11. Cutch - Kily Gonzalez 15m Joaquin 10m
12. VivaJanuzaj - Giggs(55M), Enrique 45M
13. Pippa - Zé [10M], Figo [67M]
14. NoPace
15. PaceMe -C Lopez 16m, Bale 43m
16. Fergus' son - Nedved 65m, Muller 30m

@Edgar Allan Pillow
 
What's happening with Nopace then? We can't start closing bids before he has even showed up or his replacement has been decided
 
If MJJ gets away with Ronaldo and Ronaldinho in the same team it is an absolute steal. Almost an instant win right there.

Very interesting to see every team except Kps and the inactive NoPace are going for wingers in their teams.
 
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