Arturo Vidal
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First time I've actually seen that article.
"The club had, however, advised journalists to "ignore" any speculation about Mata earlier in January".. stands out. Seems like that is now going to be the norm for any and every player we're interested in. Bad for the journos because it makes their sources at the club pretty redundant. And judging by how little they knew about recent deals it's fair to say we don't have any leaks any more.
Pretty much same thing with Herrera, we showed up a few journo's by denying any interest one day and announcing the signing the next.
Hearing a lot of rumours attaching him to City etc, hope it's just paper crap
Disappointed that it looks like 3 of the best midfielders were / are potentially around this summer and we havent paid the fees.
Understand us missing Kroos and Fabregas.
But arguably Vidal is better and would suit us more yet we still havent pushed this deal through. I understand his knee injury etc, but personally (some disagree) its a risk worth taking for fans confidence, players spirit, squad etc etc (much like Arsenal and Ozil last yr he didnt play well but boosted the whole team). Just seems a miss, yet again in midfield, the player we need is potentially available and we aren't pushing it through.
Understand us missing Kroos and Fabregas.
But arguably Vidal is better and would suit us more yet we still havent pushed this deal through. I understand his knee injury etc, but personally (some disagree) its a risk worth taking for fans confidence, players spirit, squad etc etc (much like Arsenal and Ozil last yr he didnt play well but boosted the whole team). Just seems a miss, yet again in midfield, the player we need is potentially available and we aren't pushing it through.
You know it has to be paper crap because City can only spend about £10m atm thanks to FFP sanctions.
They'd need to sell Nastasic and Negredo to get close to Vidal money.
If this is the reason, then they're cheeky cnuts for playing the 'not-100%-fit-yet-can't-play-yet' game.
it's really not a risk worth taking. You're talking about around £100m potentially including his wages, and you think that's worth a risk?
I hope you don't work in Wall Street.
1 thing for sure is this is going to the wire. We need to gamble on whether Vidal will be fit in time; if not we will have to wait until January perhaps.
Whilst this thread will probably go to the wire, I doubt the actual wire was overly long, quite frankly.
Not to coin the 'dead in the *BEEP*" phrase or anything, but, well, it's likely over by now, and that's assuming it ever began.
Vidals knees are/will be fine, players have gone through far worse injuries e.g broken legs. He doesn't have a history of being injury prone so i wouldn't bet against him making a full recovery. The whole knee thing is over blown, the ratio of players recovering from bad knee injuries is much higher than those who don't e.g Hargreaves.
If we are in for him i think it's all down to money, we can't agree a fee with Juve. Personally because of our situation i do think he is with the 45 million, if we are only to make one big signing i would take him over Di Maria.
If we are in for him i think it's all down to money, we can't agree a fee with Juve. Personally because of our situation i do think he is with the 45 million, if we are only to make one big signing i would take him over Di Maria.
I don't think thats true. IF anything we haven't even made our move yet. Going by the last window we left all the business late, and we really came alive on the last few days. I feel it'll be the same again. Just the way Woodward likes to work.
True this.
They won't play him so it's stick or twist time.
How are either of those things true? We snapped up Shaw and Herrera very early on, and we signed Rojo as soon as it became apparent that our defense was too weak. Also, last summer wasn't a case of leaving it late, just going for the wrong targets early on. We made quite a few bids well before August. Fabregas and Fellaini/Baines being examples of that.
We might be holding off on Vidal due to the knee situation, which is fair enough, but there's not a lot to suggest we're pursuing him really.
I reckon we have long agreed this one absolutely no one else sniffing around, not even arsene. All this is to let the juve fans feel that they tried to keep him and also give him time to prove his knew is OK.
Interesting they are still not playing him. I don't buy this bullshit that he is not fit yet. could easily play in a friendly match after that many weeks of rest and 2 of first team training.
Now that's optimism.
Not quite the word I'd have used to describe it.
I'm actually inclined to agree. The only thing more baffling then us not doing everything we can to sign him, would be the fact that no other club is even hinting that they are after him.
Everyone said weeks ago that we would not let this drag on for long, learning from the lessons of last summer with Fabregas. If this is the case, surely we will have given up and moved on from this one a long time ago.
The club wont be waiting to see if he's playing to decide whether he's fit. They will have done, or would do a medical and have experts look at it.
Exactly the watching him play a friendly is nonsense If we think he is that fragile that we need to watch him play some part of a pre season game first to prove his fitness then there is a high chance his knee will go walking to the bathroom or something random like that.
This is what medicals and knee experts are for. If they find anything wrong the deal dos not go through.
The whole delay is to do with money as we could have agreed to pay what they want already, flown him over to the UK and tested him like a fecking lab rat. Then we would realise A) his knee is fine his fitness is fine or B)he is fit, his knee looks ok but knee expert is not 100% confident his knee will hold out.
If option B we then say to Juve we ware not happy so we either end deal and move on to another target or try to get lower fee that would compensate for the slight uncertainty. Why play this game of chicken because it will just leave less time for an alternative signing. Makes no sense at all.
He was definitely the first to break the Mata story!...yes it was in the press before hand but the press have linked United with everyone, he was the first respectable guy to break it.
Fans like him because, he is another fan and tells us exactly what we want to hear. All summer he has been screaming about Vidal, Hummels and Di maria as our targets and we are no where close to any of them. So, yes, as you said, He knows feck all about transfers this summer, and TBF no one else does. Not a single person linked us with Herrerra or Rojo.
Just heard from an ex-player that Vidal isn't coming, don't know if he's reliable, but I thought I'd share it anyway.
Doesn't that suggest that we're not dragging it on and in fact the media (and probably Juve and Vidal) are just creating a market for the player?
Oh really?
Yes Really.
You're lying to me. I can always tell when someone's lying to me.
So you know Liam Miller?
Why say an "ex-player", if you are going to BS like that you need to state your source.
Ignore him...
He's just acting like your username, that's all.
It was David May you massive spanner, like I said I don't know if it's reliable, I know the mentalists in this thread don't take kindly to negative news relating to Vidal.
Exactly.
We need a CM.
If you're not going to go for Vidal, end it and find someone else, quickly.
We had Kroos lined up for 20 mil /facepalm
I'd say a player who is considered probably the best around in his position potentially available to a team who hasnt had that in 10 years. A player who does not have a huge injury record, who could potentially liven up the whole atmosphere. Then yeah its a risk worth taking. And yeah guys who work for investment banks make much bigger relative risks in a stock option that is considered to be one of the best in relative returns.
Personally I dont think this is happening, I just think we're gonna miss another opportunity this summer yet again and be in the same position as per usual come Jan and next yr.
The deal was called off before Madrid came.
Madrid only came in once they learned he was available and we called it off, otherwise we had him.
How many have come back from injury far too early than they should have to play in high intensity games, requiring injections to play at all, which still weren't enough to allow him to go 90 minutes?
People keep saying that it wasn't all that severe of an injury. But it's not the injury it's the pre-mature return.
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