This thread has jumped about 10 pages since I last saw any new developments?
Arturo Vidal
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Still not a 100% convinced he is being serious about it though?
Is there supposed to be a picture there 'cause I can't see anything.
Also what has Raoul predicted in the past? I heard he has a good record
Its happening, trust me.
Im 110% sure he is wumming.
You've got inside information too?
Just read the last 3 pages and im out. cant handle that sort of buildup.
It's ON!!!!!!
ok, now I believe we will get him. It does not get more factual than that.If El Mercurio says it then it's real, they don't came out with bullshit like Chilevision.
I think something will move forward today, hopefully positive. Get ready to F5!
Are they actually reliable?
Vidal has already had Manchester United medical, agreement reached
Chilean newspaper El Mercurio said everything Manchester United fans wanted to hear about Arturo Vidal on Thursday. They claim that an agreement to sign the player was total. Manchester United and Juventus had found a middle-ground they could work on and the midfielder had accepted personal terms without too much of a problem.
They also stated that medical checks had been carried out at the request of Manchester United. That was taken, El Mercurio stated, from a Gazzetta dello Sport claim. They say Manchester United wanted to know the state of Vidal's knee and so carried out medical checks in Turin on Monday.
Manchester United fans fans could choose to believe all of that or view it with suspicion. There had been reports in the very same Chilean newspaper not so long ago that Juventus' medical department had been frustrated with the Chilean national set-up for not keeping them up to date on Vidal's knee. Therefore the idea of the Italian conducting a medical as soon as Vidal arrived back from his summer break makes complete sense, it's highly likely the whole thing had nothing to do with Manchester United.
In addition, Gazzetta dello Sport say themselves on Wednesday that the Vidal situation hasn't changed as far as Juventus are concerned. They state he's not for sale and the only way he goes is for a club to pay a huge fee and for the player himself to tell Juventus that he wants out. They don't think either has happened.
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/...d-manchester-united-medical-agreement-reached
Chilean newspaper El Mercurio said everything Manchester United fans wanted to hear about Arturo Vidal on Thursday. They claim that an agreement to sign the player was total. Manchester United and Juventus had found a middle-ground they could work on and the midfielder had accepted personal terms without too much of a problem.
They also stated that medical checks had been carried out at the request of Manchester United. That was taken, El Mercurio stated, from a Gazzetta dello Sport claim. They say Manchester United wanted to know the state of Vidal's knee and so carried out medical checks in Turin on Monday.
Manchester United fans fans could choose to believe all of that or view it with suspicion. There had been reports in the very same Chilean newspaper not so long ago that Juventus' medical department had been frustrated with the Chilean national set-up for not keeping them up to date on Vidal's knee. Therefore the idea of the Italian conducting a medical as soon as Vidal arrived back from his summer break makes complete sense, it's highly likely the whole thing had nothing to do with Manchester United.
In addition, Gazzetta dello Sport say themselves on Wednesday that the Vidal situation hasn't changed as far as Juventus are concerned. They state he's not for sale and the only way he goes is for a club to pay a huge fee and for the player himself to tell Juventus that he wants out. They don't think either has happened.
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/...d-manchester-united-medical-agreement-reached
So they are not so realiable then.
They're the most reliable tabloid in Chile is what i've been told by some Chilean Journalists.
They are still a tabloid - it is expected that they might create sensational stories to sell. Not reliable at all from my point of view.
Being a reliable tabloid doesn't make you reliable in general.
This thread has gone crazy.
This thread has gone crazy.
Making sensible posts can lead to a ban. Just join in the craziness.
Do you not think plenty of teams would inquire about the availability of a top player like Vidal in every transfer window?
I was there a week or so ago but I'm tired!
Only 20 pages overnight? This clearly isn't happening.
He also said that his job is the immediate future of the team rather than kids in a different interview.
The concept of no team being interested in Vidal is doing my head in. This is like a covert operation where information flow is restricted to foreign spies.
The article that links to has already been posted.
Stop spamming nothing tweets in this thread - if you want to do that use the Twitter thread.
Cool down homer! I dint know its been posted.
Then use your eyes, it's on the same page ffs.
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Real is very unlikely considering their midfield already and the fact they have already dropped a fortune on James.
Barca have spent a fortune already on Suarez and Rakitic, they don't need him.
PSG don't seem to be interested and don't really need to prioritise him.
City need a CD first and have to adhere to FFP which would make it near impossible.
Liverpool are shit and don't have a hope in hell.
Chelsea are sorted in midfield and seem to be done this window.
Add to that we seem to have put the groundwork into getting him and his agent on board. It's probably one of those case where if another club approaches his agent, they are told he's already spoken for.
We definitely are then , otherwise there's no point for the agent to be in Turin bigging up potential deals for whatever reason. Surely, the agent couldn't coax Juve into giving Vidal a lavish deal on the basis of nothing.
Right.. Just so i am clear of whats going on.. Maybe someone could confirm for me
Vidal had a medical at Juve yesterday to asses his knee damage for pre season training?
Allegri said that Vidal is happy and he doesn't want to sell??
Vidal is left out of todays matchday squad along with Pogba and Tevez??
Vidal's agent is in Turin? is this for certain or just a rumour?
Vidal had a medical at Juve yesterday to asses his knee damage for pre season training?
Allegri said that Vidal is happy and he doesn't want to sell??
Vidal is left out of todays matchday squad along with Pogba and Tevez??
Vidal's agent is in Turin? is this for certain or just a rumour?
Vidal is clearly available. The questions are do we want him and will we pay the money?
Ed shouldn't have talked about having loads of money and breaking world record as, etc. You look quite stupid then if you don't pay for one of the best midfielders when available.
Ed shouldn't have talked about having loads of money and breaking world record as, etc. You look quite stupid then if you don't pay for one of the best midfielders when available.
But the point of the discussion is from the viewpoint that we aren't interested and it's all a big rouse to get him an improved deal. Juve will know we're not interested (if wr aren't) so all the posturing in the world by Vidal and his agent won't force Juve into upping his wage, in that scenario. He has 3 years at least on his deal, Juve hold all the aces.
Even if we are interested and they don't want to sell, they're still not obliged to give him a bigger deal so the idea that this is all for a bigger contract is wide of the mark IMO.
The interesting thing though is that it appears that Juventus would also readily sell him for a big fee rather than give him a new contract.
Vidal right to consider Juventus future but joining Manchester United would be a huge mistake
The future of the Chilean star is still in doubt, but he would be committing a grave error if he departed Turin for a club at the beginning of a massive rebuilding operation
The future of the Chilean star is still in doubt, but he would be committing a grave error if he departed Turin for a club at the beginning of a massive rebuilding operation
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By Carlo Garganese
"I am the best player in the world in my position. Nobody puts in as much defensive work as I do and then scores a lot of goals on top of it as well. It's quite clear for me that I'm the best in my role.”
Even if he says so himself, few will argue that there is a better central midfielder on the planet than Arturo Vidal. Indeed, in the 2014 Goal 50, the partly-converted Philipp Lahm was the only player in the Chilean's role to finish above him. In terms of completeness – no one even gets close to Vidal. Physically, technically, mentally, tactically – the ability to run, press, pass, head, tackle and score – he ticks every box.
Such is Vidal’s brilliance, it would be completely understandable should he wish to depart Juventus this summer. The Bianconeri’s holding company, Exor, has made it pretty clear in recent weeks that it is not prepared to make the required investment to take Juve to a Champions League-challenging level. Exor CEO John Elkann is more interested these days in attending Bilderberg conferences than he is in achieving global domination with Juventus. Politically, there are problems at 32 Corso Galileo Ferraris – hence the recent resignation of coach Antonio Conte.
Juventus exited the Champions League in the group stages last season, and even if Vidal stays they look set to begin the 2014-15 campaign with a weaker side. The summer arrivals of Alvaro Morata, Patrice Evra and Roberto Pereyra will not strengthen the first XI and managing director Giuseppe Marotta seems incapable of improving the playing personnel any further after failing to close a deal for Alexis Sanchez. An already ageing and creaking defence is one year older, Juve’s wide problem has not been solved, while Conte has been replaced by the much-maligned Massimiliano Allegri. Even Juve's domestic dominance looks under threat from Roma.
“The new arrivals are not enough. Andrea Pirlo is a year older, and now Conte has left too,” Fabio Cannavaro told Goal when asked about Juve’s prospects next season.
A player of Vidal’s calibre deserves to win the biggest prize in club football. And given the recent developments you would forgive him for concluding that he needs to depart Piedmont in order to make that happen.
But choosing to leave Juventus for Manchester United would be a crazy decision.
Even with Vidal among their ranks, as the potential starting XI below demonstrates, the Red Devils are a far weaker side than the Bianconeri. New manager Louis van Gaal is overseeing a massive rebuilding operation at Old Trafford following the disastrous David Moyes experiment. The shelf-life of the club’s star duo, Wayne Rooney and Robin van Persie, is not too far from expiry, while in releasing Nemanja Vidic, Rio Ferdinand, Ryan Giggs and Evra, United are losing more than 2000 games' worth of experience. Those who have arrived this summer so far at a heavy cost, like Luke Shaw and Ander Herrera, will hardly transform United into instant world-beaters.
The Red Devils failed to even qualify for the 2014-15 Champions League. By the time they potentially return to the knockout stages of Europe’s premier club competition, Vidal will be almost 29.
And by then, United will still be well short of the European elite. Despite executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward revealing that the club are so strong financially that they haven’t set a transfer budget, van Gaal needs time to construct the next great Manchester United side. They are light-years behind Premier League favourites Chelsea, let alone the cream of the continent - Real Madrid and Bayern Munich.
If Vidal is to leave Juve, then it should only be to one of these three clubs as they can offer him the chance of instant success on the grandest stage. If an offer is not forthcoming from a side ready for major honours, which seems to be the case, then the World Cup star is surely better staying put for another 12 months.
Allegri’s insistence on Tuesday that Vidal would not be leaving holds little weight. Clubs do not publicly admit that their player is available or else the transfer fee plummets. Upon arriving back in Italy from his holidays on Thursday, Vidal assured a persistent journalist harassing him at the airport that he was not joining United. Yet the Chilean’s body language and his flustered and awkward reactions, which ended in him once again refusing to commit to Juventus, made it pretty clear that he was leaving his options open and that Manchester is a possible destination.
But as big a club as they are, Vidal has no time to lose and in his 28th year he should not even be considering a team who are rebuilding. Not if he values sporting achievement over financial gain – Vidal earns €4.5 million a year at Juventus Stadium. United could add at least another €2m on to that total annually if they do indeed table an official offer.
Vidal’s future should start to become clear in the next seven days. If he departs with his team-mates for the pre-season tour of Asia, then his chances of remaining increase significantly. Publicly, Juventus stress that he is not for sale, yet the uncertainty cannot be disguised.
The ex-Leverkusen star must pick his next move very wisely. A player with his talent and reputation should be able to choose his next destination. But if he joins Manchester United, he really will risk wasting the last few years of his career at his peak.
By Carlo Garganese
"I am the best player in the world in my position. Nobody puts in as much defensive work as I do and then scores a lot of goals on top of it as well. It's quite clear for me that I'm the best in my role.”
Even if he says so himself, few will argue that there is a better central midfielder on the planet than Arturo Vidal. Indeed, in the 2014 Goal 50, the partly-converted Philipp Lahm was the only player in the Chilean's role to finish above him. In terms of completeness – no one even gets close to Vidal. Physically, technically, mentally, tactically – the ability to run, press, pass, head, tackle and score – he ticks every box.
Such is Vidal’s brilliance, it would be completely understandable should he wish to depart Juventus this summer. The Bianconeri’s holding company, Exor, has made it pretty clear in recent weeks that it is not prepared to make the required investment to take Juve to a Champions League-challenging level. Exor CEO John Elkann is more interested these days in attending Bilderberg conferences than he is in achieving global domination with Juventus. Politically, there are problems at 32 Corso Galileo Ferraris – hence the recent resignation of coach Antonio Conte.
Juventus exited the Champions League in the group stages last season, and even if Vidal stays they look set to begin the 2014-15 campaign with a weaker side. The summer arrivals of Alvaro Morata, Patrice Evra and Roberto Pereyra will not strengthen the first XI and managing director Giuseppe Marotta seems incapable of improving the playing personnel any further after failing to close a deal for Alexis Sanchez. An already ageing and creaking defence is one year older, Juve’s wide problem has not been solved, while Conte has been replaced by the much-maligned Massimiliano Allegri. Even Juve's domestic dominance looks under threat from Roma.
“The new arrivals are not enough. Andrea Pirlo is a year older, and now Conte has left too,” Fabio Cannavaro told Goal when asked about Juve’s prospects next season.
A player of Vidal’s calibre deserves to win the biggest prize in club football. And given the recent developments you would forgive him for concluding that he needs to depart Piedmont in order to make that happen.
But choosing to leave Juventus for Manchester United would be a crazy decision.
Even with Vidal among their ranks, as the potential starting XI below demonstrates, the Red Devils are a far weaker side than the Bianconeri. New manager Louis van Gaal is overseeing a massive rebuilding operation at Old Trafford following the disastrous David Moyes experiment. The shelf-life of the club’s star duo, Wayne Rooney and Robin van Persie, is not too far from expiry, while in releasing Nemanja Vidic, Rio Ferdinand, Ryan Giggs and Evra, United are losing more than 2000 games' worth of experience. Those who have arrived this summer so far at a heavy cost, like Luke Shaw and Ander Herrera, will hardly transform United into instant world-beaters.
The Red Devils failed to even qualify for the 2014-15 Champions League. By the time they potentially return to the knockout stages of Europe’s premier club competition, Vidal will be almost 29.
And by then, United will still be well short of the European elite. Despite executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward revealing that the club are so strong financially that they haven’t set a transfer budget, van Gaal needs time to construct the next great Manchester United side. They are light-years behind Premier League favourites Chelsea, let alone the cream of the continent - Real Madrid and Bayern Munich.
If Vidal is to leave Juve, then it should only be to one of these three clubs as they can offer him the chance of instant success on the grandest stage. If an offer is not forthcoming from a side ready for major honours, which seems to be the case, then the World Cup star is surely better staying put for another 12 months.
Allegri’s insistence on Tuesday that Vidal would not be leaving holds little weight. Clubs do not publicly admit that their player is available or else the transfer fee plummets. Upon arriving back in Italy from his holidays on Thursday, Vidal assured a persistent journalist harassing him at the airport that he was not joining United. Yet the Chilean’s body language and his flustered and awkward reactions, which ended in him once again refusing to commit to Juventus, made it pretty clear that he was leaving his options open and that Manchester is a possible destination.
But as big a club as they are, Vidal has no time to lose and in his 28th year he should not even be considering a team who are rebuilding. Not if he values sporting achievement over financial gain – Vidal earns €4.5 million a year at Juventus Stadium. United could add at least another €2m on to that total annually if they do indeed table an official offer.
Vidal’s future should start to become clear in the next seven days. If he departs with his team-mates for the pre-season tour of Asia, then his chances of remaining increase significantly. Publicly, Juventus stress that he is not for sale, yet the uncertainty cannot be disguised.
The ex-Leverkusen star must pick his next move very wisely. A player with his talent and reputation should be able to choose his next destination. But if he joins Manchester United, he really will risk wasting the last few years of his career at his peak.
What an awful article. Not even worth posting.
What news do you think we'll hear about Vidal today?
a) Nothing more than what we (think we) already know.
b) Media outlets such as the BBC, SkySports etc. stating their sources claim something.
c) Vidal/Juve come out and categorically state he is not leaving.
d) COCKS OUT!!!! Vidal signs on the dotted line with Woody leaning over Vidal.
There is no 50/50, Ask the Audience or Phone a Friend!
a) Nothing more than what we (think we) already know.
b) Media outlets such as the BBC, SkySports etc. stating their sources claim something.
c) Vidal/Juve come out and categorically state he is not leaving.
d) COCKS OUT!!!! Vidal signs on the dotted line with Woody leaning over Vidal.
There is no 50/50, Ask the Audience or Phone a Friend!
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