Arturo Vidal

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KingMinger22 said:
No matter how much you tell yourself you're not going to give hope to this happening... no matter how much you try and convince yourself... you know it's going to hurt when, as always, the clear and obvious quality signing never materialises.

The links with us and Vidal are there because it makes so much sense it's ridiculous.

He's world class, available for the right price (likely a realistic one for his talent in 2014), in a position we are desperately in need of strengthening... we're also crying out for a star player.

Last but definitely not least, it seems that we may not face much competition for him either. The bigger boys of the market have promptly closed on their enviable targets.
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The flaw in this argument right here.
 
Van Piorsing said:
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:lol: :lol:

Wonder if Moyes actually said that?!
 
KingMinger22 said:
No matter how much you tell yourself you're not going to give hope to this happening... no matter how much you try and convince yourself... you know it's going to hurt when, as always, the clear and obvious quality signing never materialises.

The links with us and Vidal are there because it makes so much sense it's ridiculous.

He's world class, available for the right price (likely a realistic one for his talent in 2014), in a position we are desperately in need of strengthening... we're also crying out for a star player.

Last but definitely not least, it seems that we may not face much competition for him either. The bigger boys of the market have promptly closed on their enviable targets.
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Completely agree. He's a perfect signing.
 
I do feel he is going to move, it's just a question of where. We really do look like the best place to go out of those interested (bar our lack of CL for at least a year).
 
Wait am I missing something... if Vidal himself said he's not coming, how come this thread isn't closed?
 
Browniee said:
I know, I'm terrible. Haven't been like this since Sneijder, want him to join so fecking bad.
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You are not terrible. Until the man says publicly, properly, I am not leaving this season, we are in with a very good chance, should we bid for him.
 
Fergie's Man said:
You are not terrible. Until the man says publicly, properly, I am not leaving this season, we are in with a very good chance, should we bid for him.
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Yeah, although it's just rag, twitter and misinterpreted interviews. There is still a chance.
Although I am gearing up for the let down. It happens too many times to us. Until he's there next to Woody with a pen in his hand.
It's got to happen, it's got to
 
Theon said:
Disagree with this. In a 4-2-3-1 I think you're spot on that a Herrera/Vidal/Mata midifield lacks balance and places too much of a holding requirement on Vidal, when you really want him pushing up and effecting the game high up the pitch - both with and without the ball, the latter allowing him to press high up and win possession.

In a 3-5-2 I don't see this as an issue however, with the security of three centre backs there isn't the same requirement for a DM. They offer more focus and ability defensively than a holding midfielder, so the difference someone like De Jong would make would be negligible if he replaced someone like Jones IMO.

In fact, with Herrera and Vidal I actually think an extra centre back compliments that duo better defensively than another pressing midfielder - Vidal and Herrera press already and Vidal in particular is one of the best ballwinners playing right now. An extra defender to be responsible positionally is more of a requirement than another midfielder in there.

Vidal/Herrera/Mata in a 3-5-2 is a great fit IMO and much better than a 4-2-3-1. I agree that there will be a far greater requirement on Vidal to hold than he had at Chile for instance where he played off the forwards, and to a lesser extent a bigger defensive role than he had at Juventus. But the difference is not going to be huge in this system and IMO Vidal could pretty much still play his natural game.
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Yeah I agree, good post.

I still reckon though stick Carrick in the back 3 in all but the toughest games (and even potentially then depending on how he does), and you get a happy medium between the 352 and a diamond. Carrick can sit deeper and slip in line with the defenders when off the ball but when on it he can step forward allowing Herrera/Vidal to push up with them alternating who pushes on at one time and who hangs back depending on how the play develops.

My concern though, particularly having seen the 2 games so far is that whilst there's still plenty to come through more game time I do think there's a lack of pace, which will only get worse if RVP comes in for Welbeck which you'd expect, and where there is pace, i.e. someone like Valencia they don't drive forward down the flank with the ball often enough. Hopefully that's something that can be ironed out but I think it could be an issue.
 
Hmmm it will be a shame if we missed out on Di Maria, he was getting up there for one of my muppets most wanted
 
Browniee said:
Yeah, although it's just rag, twitter and misinterpreted interviews. There is still a chance.
Although I am gearing up for the let down. It happens too many times to us. Until he's there next to Woody with a pen in his hand.
It's got to happen, it's got to
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I am hoping the difference this season is LvG. I am sure he told Woody to either back him or he walks.
 
okLaptop1 said:
Fair enough. You wanna summarize the current situation in a sentence or two?
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Just get a pendulum, have two photos of Vidal on either side with ArturOFF on the left and ArturON on the right placed underneath these photos in nice big letters, and watch that pendulum swing side to side.

Sums up the thread very nicely.
 
Moyes probably said: "I think United will try to do everyting to try to sign him. I tried to sign him, I thought we need him to be at City's lever."
 
Tomorrow is the day people. United's official page: Manchester United is happy to announce the signing of Chilean player Arturo Vidal.. Or something like that.
 
tomorrow, tuesday, August the 31s, whatever. This one is signed.
 
okLaptop1 said:
But didn't he say no to coming to Manchester?
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He said "no, no" actually!

But come on, what else was he going to say to a journo sticking a microphone in front of his face in the airport. When asked if he would be at Juve next season he said "I don't know" so anything could happen.
 
Don't do it to yourselves! Let this thread die now and we'll probably sign him, just like we were surprised with the Herrera signing.

But keep on muppeting and this will just be another Ronaldinho/Sneijder/Hazard/Thiago/Lucas Moura affair. It will just hurt and this place will never be the same afterwards.

I remember lurking at the Caf and reading the Hazard thread back in the day, feeling the same emotions as you muppets and I got attached. I'll never let myself get hurt like that again. It was painful, like when my first ever girlfriend left me but it felt far worse. I couldn't sleep, I couldn't eat - I couldn't even get a boner for months.

I don't want to be that broken man again.
 
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