Arturo Vidal
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Ogden had a huge list of players that we were interested in about 6 weeks ago. Ducker had Konoplyanka as one of our targets but he doesn't mention him at all now.
In hindsight maybe, not when it happens.
Have you asked Sam?
I suspect the Scousers would.
I'd kill myself in the most painful way imaginable but seeing as there is 0% chance of it happening I'm not stressing about it.
He'll end up here, I've no doubt.
I'm sure they have been briefed that there's nothing in the Vidal rumours. They've said as much, but as Jamie Jackson said, that doesn't mean there's nothing in the Vidal rumours that just means that they have been briefed that there is nothing in the Vidal rumours. Two entirely different things.
That has been happening all summer though in fairness. First it was Kroos, then Fab, then Strootman, then Vidal, back to Strootman etc etc etc.
None of them had the first clue we were about to sign Herrera.
I'm sure the club has briefed we are not in for Vidal, however I'm not sure the club are telling the truth.
I think even Woodward would know his life would be in jeopardy!
Andy Mitten, Tuttosport, El Mercurio, Chilevision VS Mark Ogden, Ian Ladyman, Jamie Jackson, James Ducker.
I think it's definitely a case of us allowing Vidal and his agent to engineer the move now before we step in and pay the money when it is all agreed.
It fits exactly how we operated in the Mata and Herrera transfer. Didn't we also do the same with Shaw? It was drawn out for a while as we discussed it with the player and his agent before they finally agreed things with Southampton and we stepped in and paid the money.
most clubs nowadays will speak to the player's agent and agree personal terms before the fee's agreed, I think. Suarez and Rodriguez being recent examples.
Euro's
Tuttosport have been reporting that Vidal's agent is the one who's negotiating the fee with Juve with our blessing. So us telling our Journo's that we've had no contact with Juve is true.
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I think it's euros.
I would rather say "to hell with the assessment" regarding those who need no further introduction, and let's focus on 1) playing the youngsters in the tour and 2) get our signings in quickly so they can start working with the team to get that chemistry building up now. Fielding the players who are to be flogged (Fellaini. Young, Nani, Cleverley, Anderson) is a waste of time after everything they have shown.
Dear... Refusing Riquelme and Neuer are 2 major mistakes when everyone knows what kind of top class players those two are, especially Neuer.LVG may be the hunter who goes hunting an elephant, but he's not going out there without extra ammo. With that being said, Louis would be foolish to refuse an extra "heavy caliber cartridge" (to use my hunting analogy) before going into the wild. If Louis wants us to trust him, perhaps he should also trust to the people who are working hard to land Vidal and other "heavy caliber cartridges" ASAP if any.
Anyway, it's one of those days when I wish the transfer window would be closed before we even hit August. A big part of pre-season is meaningless if you can't get your new guys on to get that chemistry going before the first game of the season.
Why can't we have media machines helping us just as Juventus, Bayern, Real and Barcelona have their own?
Why do we need the media to help? If a player is interested, he's interested. And the press in this country - far from being club driven propaganda machines, can't be controlled. I see no reason for the club to have to cosy up to the media because you can guarantee that once you let them in they'll be spinning stories and doing go knows what else further down the line when something happens.
The club are going about their business in the right way. People moaned last year when they were cosying up to the press and trying to talk up the deals that they were trying to do. Now we've got a lot of fans moaning about them not doing just that.
Not three days ago the club made comment, through Woodward, that things were happening behind the scenes so I'm happy for that to carry on.
Oh yeah that's for certain and it's been like that for years, you don't agree a fee with a club before embarrassing yourself by not being able to offer what the player wants.
I'm saying that I think Woodward's method of getting a transfer to work is by getting the player and his agent on board to a point where it is them that holds talk with their club. They find out what it takes to buy their contract and we then step in and pay that.
It's definitely how we got Mata, it fits the narrative for the Shaw transfer and while the Herrera deal was different thanks to the buyout clause, we definitely operated through the player and his agent.
So if reports are coming from Chile and Italy that we have agreed terms with Vidal over the last few days and that Vidal and his Agent are now negotiating the fee and operating as mediates between the club then it makes perfect sense. I'd be surprised if the Italian were smart enough to come up with that scenario based on our last few transfers just to make it sound realistic.
Haha have you spoken to Sunderland
- Edit actually what are you talking about, I'm in 3 threads here and confused.
Tuttosport are really going into details regarding the deal which gives me alot of optimism.
It's on again?
This story makes me crazy.
This story makes me crazy.
Can you post the article by any chance?
It's on again?
This story makes me crazy.
Twas never off. We're just waiting for him to return to Italy
Relx everyone. It's pretty clear we have earmarked him and will make a bid soon. Also of games are being played in order for this deal to go through without a hitch.
It is my belief that we are sounding out the price and availability through Vidal's agent. I wouldn't be surprised if wages are agreed and terms but an official bid is yet to go through as Juve chase other targets.
It's widely known that Juve have little to no funds to strengthen yet seem to be buying players left right and centre. Since Allegri has come in they have been linked with three central midfielders and have bought one in Preyera. And now they are interested in Guarin. It all screams of a club preparing to lose a player and spend big to cover the gaps.
Behind closed doors we will have a gentleman's agreement with them. We will deny any interest until they have wrapped up cover for his leaving and Vidal himself has returned from his holidays in order as to not infringe on the price of incoming stars. If they don't get their man, we can't either.
Things will move very quickly once Vidal returns on the 25th.
It is my belief that we are sounding out the price and availability through Vidal's agent. I wouldn't be surprised if wages are agreed and terms but an official bid is yet to go through as Juve chase other targets.
It's widely known that Juve have little to no funds to strengthen yet seem to be buying players left right and centre. Since Allegri has come in they have been linked with three central midfielders and have bought one in Preyera. And now they are interested in Guarin. It all screams of a club preparing to lose a player and spend big to cover the gaps.
Behind closed doors we will have a gentleman's agreement with them. We will deny any interest until they have wrapped up cover for his leaving and Vidal himself has returned from his holidays in order as to not infringe on the price of incoming stars. If they don't get their man, we can't either.
Things will move very quickly once Vidal returns on the 25th.
It's on again?
This story makes me crazy.
It was never off, it's just the British journalists saying what they are being told by United.
Just ask yourself why United are briefing specifically about Vidal if we are not interested in him.
Haha you are right about clubs agreeing the deal with the player first before going to the club etc.
However Sunderland seemed to have agreed a fee with Liverpool and now it looks like they are struggling to agree terms with Borini (which is why I made reference to Sunderland) and laughed. Maybe you need to fill them in on this new way of doing transfers haha
They haven't updated the online news yet, will post it when they do.
That Tuttosport article is the same one from yesterday, no?
Feck sake this is hard to keep track of. One day it's off the next it's back on again.
It's really not that difficult.
Ignore British press who are being kept in the dark.
Listen to Chilean press who are talking directly to Vidal and the Italian press who are being briefed by Juve on what is happening.
The one from yesterday was this...
Manchester to Juve: Vidal 50 million
Manchester has proposed to the annual salary of 6.7 million Chilean Arturo tried
TURIN - opens Gran Partita. Manchester United are planning a final assault to Arturo Vidal. But under what conditions? The position is extremely clear of Juventus. He had repeated to Beppe Marotta presenting Alvaro Morata, he reiterated more recently the director Pavel Nedved in an interview with a Czech media. The juice, summed up in a few words heard repeatedly from the top of Juventus' Vidal is a strong point of Juventus. In fact, as Paul Pogba, we have no intention to sell it. But in cases like this is almost always crucial, if not decisive, the will of the players. We are ready to do everything to retain Vidal, unless that is not the same player to notify us of not wanting to stay longer. And, likewise, there is presented an offer so extraordinary, to put ourselves in a position to reason calmly. " But, all of which are also under a slogan: no blackmail, no forcing. Just because Juventus is not obligated to sell Vidal. Neither wants to do it on paper. POSITION OF CHEERFUL - The new coach has been married to the positions of the company. In the background, however, we must not forget that Juventus will close the financial statements for the last season at a loss: a red top with respect to the vintage 2012-2013. Moral: an injection of fresh money is not essential, but would be handy, just in case. Read the full article on the issue of today's TuttoSport
Any decent odds anywhere on Vidal joining us? I'm about to lump on if there's a price to be had.
If you believe what Graham Hunter wrote in a recent bit about Herrera then it would seem as if it was Moyes who did most of the media briefing last summer about our potential targets. Doesn't surprise me since he was so surprised to be in the job and wanted their support that he would be giving them plenty of info, also explains why he got such an easy ride from large sections of the media throughout the disastrous season whereas huge parts of the squad got slated.
Our business this summer has been much more like years under SAF where large parts of the English media are playing a guessing game, none of them had a clue about Herrera until after it was widely reported by Spanish news and even then most didn't believe the original reports. Hopefully it's the case with Vidal and no one from United has given them a sniff but the Italian media are all over it.
Our business this summer has been much more like years under SAF where large parts of the English media are playing a guessing game, none of them had a clue about Herrera until after it was widely reported by Spanish news and even then most didn't believe the original reports. Hopefully it's the case with Vidal and no one from United has given them a sniff but the Italian media are all over it.
I'd already typed half a reply when I remembered what your username refers to. I'd say it was a slow morning but I've made that same mistake before.
1/8 on skybet for him to go to united. Are you a Barça or united fan?
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By 'US' I presume you mean Barca, in which case you can get 33/1 with Betfred.
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