Hypothetically, considering what the team needs, would anyone make a straight sway between Rooney and Vidal?
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Nah. We can give Nani though. Didnt he want to go there anyway? £15-20m + Nani we can do.
If I'm being honest, I've not watched Vidal enough to know if he's as good as people make out. But presuming he is, then yes, I'd be very tempted by that.
A want-away player who we have ample cover for in exchange for one of hte world's best in the position we are most lacking? Seems like a potential no-brainer.
I would think so too; we have a world class striker in RVP - we are getting a world class AM in Mata - we would have a world class CM in Vidal (if, he is as good as people say) and we have a world class goalie. That is one helluva good starting point. Rooney is actually made slightly obsolete in that respect.
Yeah, I know. And it's even harder that we snatch him up. But everyone has a price. If we are serious, we can do it. But if we negotiate Fabregas style...
Yes.
Okay, so now that we have Mata, time to set camp and simply post this transfer through. We have a week lads, get your muppet boots on.
Would be the greatest pair of January signings if we also signed this lad. Sadly not even convinced we're after him and even if we are I'm not convinced he would leave.
So, have we signed this fella yet?
Ummmm, No. Rooney is still vital for us. Moot point because I doubt Juventus need him.
I say, throw 40m+ in Juve's direction and test their resolve. In case we miss out on 4th spot, it would be awesome if we have already secured players by then. If we wait for few transfers to happen in Summer, it will be tougher if miss out on CL and even if we make it, there will still be more clubs in line for top talent.
Of course, it depends on player. Vidal is so crucial to Juventus, fans love him there, he likes it and it is unlikely he will want to move mid-way. A pre-contract agreement etc will do nicely.
It's funny that over the past couple of days of Mata Mayhem, my mind has only been on Vidal. I genuinely think we can do it. Juve will sell if price is right.
What would be the right price though? He has been hyped ridiculously high recently - I can't say I've ever rated him that highly. Has anyone been following him for a long time? Is he a genuine world class player - one of the best in the world? And not just someone who is in a purple patch.
http://www.oddschecker.com/football...turo-vidal/club-after-january-transfer-window
Currently, 1/10 to stay at Juventus. It can all change quickly in next 48 hours! Will be bit of mixed feeling for me, as Juve are my 2nd club. Screw it though, we gave them Pogba and they are going to stroll to league this season and are already out of cups.
Currently, 1/10 to stay at Juventus. It can all change quickly in next 48 hours! Will be bit of mixed feeling for me, as Juve are my 2nd club. Screw it though, we gave them Pogba and they are going to stroll to league this season and are already out of cups.
Stop being muppets, Vidal won't leave Juventus for us. 
Stop being muppets, Vidal won't leave Juventus for us.
That's what doubters said about Mata! #Believe you haxxer.
I said that about Mata, and that worked wonderfully.
Good lad.
If Rooney wants to stay, then absolutely not. If Rooney wants out, then yes.
You want to supplement the team, not take away from it, and I still don't think most of the caf appreciate what Rooney does for this side and very flippantly throw out that others could come in and do his job, when in fact, his job is three rolled into one, ergo, no, one player can't, or is very, very unlikely to come in and give us all that he does.
Rooney is a proven, settled performer here, and whilst I rate Vidal as the best, or certainly top 2 in the world at what he does, he does not, and cannot come with a 100% guarantee of performance as there is always an element of risk to any transfer, just reduced when you purchase a world class one. For all we know, Vidal might not settle or take time to get to grips with the league and his team-mates. I would say that's more unlikely than it is likely, but there is still an element of risk that you have to factor in here that we already know does not apply to Rooney.
Our aim should be to fortify midfield and add as much talent to our attacking ranks of world class calibre as possible, not take away from it. There's also the fact that Van Persie isn't getting any younger and he is far from a dead certainty fitness wise, so you remove Rooney, even if you put Kagawa or Mata in his position, without RVP up front and Rooney replaced with Vidal, suddenly, goal-scoring becomes an issue. Not smart. And in our squad of hopeless scorers (count how many goals our midfield contribute) taking away a world class forward fixes one problem and creates another (assuming RVP becomes an erratic crock, which is probable enough not to be dismissed as fantasy.)
Offer them Nani and some good cash for Vidal! Common woody do it!
Throw in Young or Valencia too.
Give them Young instead. And a packet of Haribo to accompany him. And some cash, obviously.
Throw in Macheda, Bebe and Buttner and all.
Young + Valencia + £40million should do it.
Given the way Juventus play, Valencia would suit them very well actually. Of course, we all know these players plus cash deals seldom happen.
Sorry to disappoint you, but it's extremely unlikely that a swap involving Rooney or Nani would take place. Too pricey, high wages and too close to 30. Nor is Valencia likely since Lichtsteiner is excelling on the right.
Marotta's shrewd and stingy. This is the man who got Llorente, Pirlo and Pogba for free, Tevez for peanuts and who probably will not spend big money on something that will drop in value. In the unlikely deal that this would happen one day, it would be for 50 m+.
Marotta's shrewd and stingy. This is the man who got Llorente, Pirlo and Pogba for free, Tevez for peanuts and who probably will not spend big money on something that will drop in value. In the unlikely deal that this would happen one day, it would be for 50 m+.
Who has Juve's phone number and does a good Moyes?
They do have a fair amount of debt they add to every year. Signing Vidal so soon after Mata would be awesome.
I don't think there is any chance in this happening. I would rather be realistic and sign Guarin for now and Gundogan in the summer.
Also, i can't seem to find a source anywhere that seems to have us linked with Vidal?
Also, i can't seem to find a source anywhere that seems to have us linked with Vidal?
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To be honest, that's about what I'd value him at in today's market given his age and the fact he's just signed a new deal.
When you say 50m, you're taking about Euros, too, aren't you? So that's about £43m. I very much doubt you'd find many on here who'd dream of getting him for anything much less than that.
You didn't read the Gundogan thread, I take it?
Ah yes, I should've clarified that. I was referring to the £15-20m + Nani options, which either over-value Nani or under-value Vidal.
Yes, you're right. Nani's stock has fallen massively over the last couple of years, unfortunately.
Is he seen as a winger in Italy?
Well, sort of. Very few teams play a 4-4-2, so he would probably be used as a forward of some sort in a front three or two.
For Juventus, he would be in direct competition with Tevez. That's why Nani to Juventus is unlikely, and if it were to happen, it would be for less than £10 m. Not saying that is his value, but I don't see us paying more than that for a squad player in his age.
Roma, Fiorentina or Milan would be more likely destinations. They all use attacking wingers.
Juventus won't be selling Vidal - one of the finest all round centre midfielders around - unless it's for an extortionate amount of money (in excess of the amount for Mata) that, quite frankly, I doubt we'd be prepared to offer.
In short, never gonna happen.
In short, never gonna happen.
Pft, be away with you, Old Man Buzzkiller.
I got him for 30m on FM 2013 so feck you.
Juventus won't sell Vidal is nonsense. Everything is for sale. Absolutely everything.
Barca would have sold Messi 3 years ago if the price was right.
Barca would have sold Messi 3 years ago if the price was right.
Doubt even 150 - 200m would replace Messi.
That's Señor Buzzkiller to you sonny.
As I said - it would be for an ridiculous price that I doubt we would match.
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