Arsenal - 2024/25

Mogget said:
You're embarrassing :lol: I'm surprised you're showing your face here now

Remember earlier in the season when you were criticising us for playing cowardly, negative football away at City when we had 10 men?

36% possession at home despite having 11 men all game. Enjoy mid table again
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How quickly Arsenal revert to the possession trophy.
 
Daydreamer said:
Yep. Saka was triple-marked at times. If there’s that much attention on him, there must be gaps elsewhere for us to exploit, but as you say, there was precious little movement.

I actually think this is worse than our rut last season. Those were bad results, but they were mostly the result of sloppy finishing and individual mistakes at the back. Whereas we are actually playing poorly right now.
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I think we'll play our way back into form, but it's looking ominous in terms of a title challenge. Can see the exact same struggles at Chelsea next week before we might start to pick up afterwards.

AshRK said:
Many don't call it but they have wasted a lot of money on average players and wrong profile. Also, I don't believe they have any injury crisis. If they have actual injury crisis then they would sitting outside top 4 on a regular basis.
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I don't want to criticise what we've done too much in the market as it helped take us from a 60 point team to an 84 and then 90 point team. No team gets them all correct.

However, I must admit, I feel the quality bought in the defensive positions outweighs the quality bought in the attacking positions. I feel the individuals like Timber, White, Gabriel, Calafiori, Saliba, Rice, Partey could be a league winning set of players on the defensive side. I'm not sure an attack that relies so heavily on the likes of Martinelli, Trossard, Jesus, Sterling and many would say Havertz you can really say the same.
 
Arteta really needs to stop with the idea of playing Rice and Merino. There is no passing quality in midfield and that is especially worse without Odegaard there. Jorginho has to play since he is the only player who can unlock a defense with a splitting pass from deep. They don't have a CAM who can create like Odegaard can as well.
 
That was after years of spending nothing. They've been pretty miserly if you factor in a 10 year average, for instance.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
How quickly Arsenal revert to the possession trophy.
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I'm only reverting to the possession trophy because this same cocky Newcastle fan was using that as a reason to criticise earlier this season

It's literally right there in my second paragraph
 
Mogget said:
I'm only reverting to the possession trophy because this same cocky Newcastle fan was using that as a reason to criticise earlier this season

It's literally right there in my second paragraph
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The Newcastle fan really doesn't like us. Hardly ever posts but when he does it's nearly always about Arsenal, and he just copy and pastes the same wrong statement about Arsenal spending the most in the world in recent years and then fecks off. Not even spent the most in London, never mind the world. Hard to debate with someone like that.
 
Somehow landed on Ray Parlour’s instagram. Man alive, that guy is a raging alcoholic.
 
Brophs said:
Somehow landed on Ray Parlour’s instagram. Man alive, that guy is a raging alcoholic.
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Yeah, Ray comes across as seeming to think 'living your best life' means you need to have Jagerbombs for every occasion.

Weird thing is I think he still keeps himself reasonably fit as well.
 
GoonerBear said:
Yeah, Ray comes across as seeming to think 'living your best life' means you need to have Jagerbombs for every occasion.

Weird thing is I think he still keeps himself reasonably fit as well.
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I actually don't understand how he's in such good shape whilst consuming that much alcohol, especially at his age
 
GoonerBear said:
Big shock this. Be interesting to know the reasoning behind this when it comes out.
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He’s been a big advocate for Mikel right?

That Ornstein clip that was circulating yesterday saying people inside the club thinking he has too much power is interesting.
 
Berbaclass said:
He’s been a big advocate for Mikel right?

That Ornstein clip that was circulating yesterday saying people inside the club thinking he has too much power is interesting.
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Yeah, but then again so has Josh Kronke, he was Josh Kronkes choice to replace Wenger so I'd be surprised if Arteta's role is under pressure. Looking at their American sports teams, KSE are pretty loyal to their coaches. You never know though, so would be interesting to see what comes out of this.
 
I think most people would say Odegaard is Arsenals best player, but, for me, it's Saliba. If they fail to kick on this season, and it's looking that way, I can see him leaving in the summer. I think he'd improve any team in the world.
 
He’s achieved very little to be calling the shots like he has been. It’s all a bit weird, isn’t it? If Arsenal finish say 3rd, once again without a trophy, what will the fan feeling be? He’s taken them as far as he can? More time?
 
Berbaclass said:
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I think that's been taken out of context, I remember listening to the full interview at the time and certainly didn't come away with the same conclusion that the guy tweeting has decided to use. It was a discussion in general about how Arsenal can improve and look to kick on after the Bayern Munich game, and he's basically saying how everyone will take a look at themselves, including Mikel. Think it cut off at a very clever point to push an agenda now that funnily enough wasn't mentioned at the time.
 
GoonerBear said:
I think that's been taken out of context, I remember listening to the full interview at the time and certainly didn't come away with the same conclusion that the guy tweeting has decided to use. It was a discussion in general about how Arsenal can improve and look to kick on after the Bayern Munich game, and he's basically saying how everyone will take a look at themselves, including Mikel. Think it cut off at a very clever point to push an agenda now that funnily enough wasn't mentioned at the time.
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Of course!
 
Arsenal were the best team in the league to watch 2 seasons ago. They were a young, exciting team. Martinelli and Saka terrorising teams down both flanks.

They became a more efficient team last season. More of a balance between defence and attack, as their inexperience had shown during the title run-in during the 22/23 season. An almost perfect blend.

This season has seen Arteta basically abandon what made Arseanl so good to watch 2 years ago. There's too much of an emphasis on height and physicality. A lack of flair.

Selling/loaning out both ESR and Fábio Vieira was a mistake. Ødegaard's influence has been missed. Nwaneri is a top talent, but is only 17. They needed more creative CM/AM profiles in case of an injury to their skipper.

I think Arsenal will finish 3rd this season.
 
Berbaclass said:
Of course!
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I mean, by all means if you find the full interview listen for yourself and draw your own conclusion. Although more and more I see people looking at headline quotes and snippets of interviews especially on X without any context behind them that are agenda driven and people take them as gospel.
 
GoonerBear said:
I mean, by all means if you find the full interview listen for yourself and draw your own conclusion. Although more and more I see people looking at headline quotes and snippets of interviews especially on X without any context behind them that are agenda driven and people take them as gospel.
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You can forgive me for not following Arsenal news as closely as you mate. Still think it's interesting with the fresh context that todays events bring.

I will indeed go back and listen to the full context though.
 
Judas said:
Is it a sign of how shit football is in the PL that Arteta has made them worse to watch, I assume, in hopes in making them more successful?
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I suppose the pressure is on now in year 5. They really should have won it last season. It was always going to be difficult to replicate their metrics this season They ranked 1st in so many areas. It didn't matter, City found a way to win it again. Arteta has probably been too drastic with his approach this season. Selling his soul in search of a title.

City are a bit flat this season. Injuries, some ageing players, and possibly suffering from burnout/not as hungry after 3 gruelling seasons in a row.

If Arsenal were on their game this season, it would have been their best chance. Liverpool have a very good chance if they can avoid injuries.
 
Berbaclass said:
You can forgive me for not following Arsenal news as closely as you mate. Still think it's interesting with the fresh context that todays events bring.

I will indeed go back and listen to the full context though.
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Of course mate, and i agree, it is interesting with what's coming out today.

By the way, I often stick up for Arteta on here because of the stick he gets, but by no means do I think he's beyond criticism when it's justified. He's defo grown in power over the years, but it always seemed to be in-sync with Edu and with a great relationship with Josh. Be interesting to see if anything comes out to contradict that.
 
Yagami said:
I think most people would say Odegaard is Arsenals best player, but, for me, it's Saliba. If they fail to kick on this season, and it's looking that way, I can see him leaving in the summer. I think he'd improve any team in the world.
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Too much got made of Saliba being injured last season. it didn't change the way arsenal played, they just didn't have a back up player who was anywhere near as good so the whole defence lost a bit of confidence. Whereas without odegaard, they have to change the way they play completely. Both World class players but they miss Odegaard way more.
 
FriedClams said:
Too much got made of Saliba being injured last season. it didn't change the way arsenal played, they just didn't have a back up player who was anywhere near as good so the whole defence lost a bit of confidence. Whereas without odegaard, they have to change the way they play completely. Both World class players but they miss Odegaard way more.
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is Saliba world class?

I'm not sure I agree. I think he's a great player, but Arsenal play 4 CBs and 2 CDMs.

I certainly don't think he's at VvD levels.

Edu going is the beginning of the end.
 
Ill admit my first thought before reading the article (illogical as it would be) is that Ineos had convinced Edu to jump ship on join us :lol:

But theres another story there it looks like.
 
Bwuk said:
is Saliba world class?

I'm not sure I agree. I think he's a great player, but Arsenal play 4 CBs and 2 CDMs.

I certainly don't think he's at VvD levels.

Edu going is the beginning of the end.
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I think so, he has everything you want in a defender and unlike VVD, actually tackles opponents instead of backing off
 
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