Sorry Pat just can’t see how you can say that Arsenal were the better team when 11v11 . Doku did kick the ball after the whistle but clearly the ref wanted the ball further back and it was close to the Trossard second yellow.
Did Trossard delay Cities ability to take the free kick? Yes without doubt. Did Doku? I think the fact that he played the ball in the direction of where the kick had to be taken from.
Arsenal were excellent defensively in the second half but for me that was more to do with Cities insistence of trying to penetrate that defence in a narrow % of the width of the pitch and even then the times the ball went through Kovacic who as we know may score the odd goal or assist now and then but creativity isn’t close to one of his strength
City dominated the early exchanges but from Haaland’s goal until HT, Arsenal were the better team imo, and well worth the lead. They defended better and attacked better. They couldn’t control the midfield, so City dominated possession but Arsenal’s game plan and execution was pretty much perfection until the sending off.
Re; Doku. I’ve seen the suggestion that he was kicking it back to where the ref wanted it taken from, and if that’s the case then fair enough. I haven’t seen any highlights of the game or any clips of the contentious incidents, so if that’s true, then fairs. I’m on record that I think Trossard’s red was fair enough, it’s the inconsistencies in applying this rule that infuriates me.
It’s easier said than done breaking down a parked bus intent on not even pretending to offer an attacking threat, especially against a team as good as Arsenal, so I don’t actually hold City’s struggles against 10 men against them.
Indeed...might make it easier, but I am sure they will have a decent replacement.Handed a boost in the title race with Rodri's injury.
Interesting times ahead.
what kind of questions?They have to win it. If they don't do it this year as well, major questions have to be asked.
"why didn't Arsenal win it" would be onewhat kind of questions?
Jesus christAnyone feel it is Arsenal's deliberate tactics to injure opponents' players (instead of just rash challenges)? didn't we always have players injured playing against arsenal?
It is very scummy from them
Despite how disappointing 2018/19 and 21/22 were with missing out on the title on the last day, we still ended those seasons with something to show (CL in 2019 and a domestic cup double in 2022).Depends on the silverware. I've personally enjoyed the past few seasons a lot more than the seasons we won all those FA cups.
Are they just perennial losers? Probablywhat kind of questions?
What if you dont win it?Are they just perennial losers? Probably
The questions asked change depending on how good you are and what your chances are. If we kept failing to win titles between 06-13 the same questions would be asked. Or if Klopp was entering the 7th year at Liverpool without a major trophy.What if you dont win it?
They’ll probably cope without him. If Haaland picks up an injury then that’s a different story. Feel like he scores 90% of their goals.Rodri out for the whole season. Finally for arsenal to win EPL ?
They weren’t the better team they had like 22% possession before the sending off, they had come with the plan to sit back and hit on the counter but City were playing the better football.
We must practice voodoo or something, because it's the first time I've heard of deliberately trying to injure players by barely touching them!Anyone feel it is Arsenal's deliberate tactics to injure opponents' players (instead of just rash challenges)? didn't we always have players injured playing against arsenal?
It is very scummy from them
We must practice voodoo or something, because it's the first time I've heard of deliberately trying to injure players by barely touching them!
Anyone feel it is Arsenal's deliberate tactics to injure opponents' players (instead of just rash challenges)? didn't we always have players injured playing against arsenal?
It is very scummy from them
They’ll probably cope without him. If Haaland picks up an injury then that’s a different story. Feel like he scores 90% of their goals.
Irony of calling us cheats while we play against the biggest cheats in the history of our sport. Who have cost not only us but United and Liverpool actual trophies and titles.Cheating cnuts. Glad it came back on them
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Irony of calling us cheats while we play against the biggest cheats in the history of our sport. Who have cost not only us but United and Liverpool actual trophies and titles.
Absolutely love it giving it back to them when they think they're entitled to every win, when every single game they get away with bookings. Kovacic last year twice. Love getting under their skin.
And ironically every other fan is laughing at City's crying when they have been doing the same for years (on top of actual cheating). The only other fans who are mourning our tactics are bizarrely United fans. It's utterly bizarre. The biggest City supporters outside City groups are some United fans. I suppose this is what City fans refer to as "one city"
You browse around this forum and yeah its a minority who defend City as most here understand how plastic City is and how insulting it is them trying to buy heritage. Except I suppose fans like you.
@IrishRedDevil yes. We are the only team across Europe which waste time when we are leading. Everyone just gets on with it.
Everything aside yes we do need to tone it a dial down as we can't pay off refs like City and soon we will be getting penalised. To add I don't think the insane slowing down the game we saw against City we will do against anyone else.
As it was the first time in more than a dozen away games where we actually didn't lead after the first goal.
Nice whatsboutismIrony of calling us cheats while we play against the biggest cheats in the history of our sport. Who have cost not only us but United and Liverpool actual trophies and titles.
Absolutely love it giving it back to them when they think they're entitled to every win, when every single game they get away with bookings. Kovacic last year twice. Love getting under their skin.
And ironically every other fan is laughing at City's crying when they have been doing the same for years (on top of actual cheating). The only other fans who are mourning our tactics are bizarrely United fans. It's utterly bizarre. The biggest City supporters outside City groups are some United fans. I suppose this is what City fans refer to as "one city"
You browse around this forum and yeah its a minority who defend City as most here understand how plastic City is and how insulting it is them trying to buy heritage. Except I suppose fans like you.
@IrishRedDevil yes. We are the only team across Europe which waste time when we are leading. Everyone just gets on with it.
Everything aside yes we do need to tone it a dial down as we can't pay off refs like City and soon we will be getting penalised. To add I don't think the insane slowing down the game we saw against City we will do against anyone else.
As it was the first time in more than a dozen away games where we actually didn't lead after the first goal.
Cheating cnuts. Glad it came back on them
everyone knows City are cheats. Bringing it up 24/7 is boring and is now becoming used as a way to avoid discussion points because the easy response is to just say "well they cheated so...".Irony of calling us cheats while we play against the biggest cheats in the history of our sport. Who have cost not only us but United and Liverpool actual trophies and titles.
Absolutely love it giving it back to them when they think they're entitled to every win, when every single game they get away with bookings. Kovacic last year twice. Love getting under their skin.
And ironically every other fan is laughing at City's crying when they have been doing the same for years (on top of actual cheating). The only other fans who are mourning our tactics are bizarrely United fans. It's utterly bizarre. The biggest City supporters outside City groups are some United fans. I suppose this is what City fans refer to as "one city"
You browse around this forum and yeah its a minority who defend City as most here understand how plastic City is and how insulting it is them trying to buy heritage. Except I suppose fans like you.
@IrishRedDevil yes. We are the only team across Europe which waste time when we are leading. Everyone just gets on with it.
Everything aside yes we do need to tone it a dial down as we can't pay off refs like City and soon we will be getting penalised. To add I don't think the insane slowing down the game we saw against City we will do against anyone else.
As it was the first time in more than a dozen away games where we actually didn't lead after the first goal.
Yup, it's incredible really that Arsenal are such gimps that they could make you want City to beat them in the heat of the moment.Everyone I know is going for City over Arsenal.
Which is hilarious, when you think about it.
City, buying the league, destroying football, huge rivals of us for years, arguably destroying any semblance of romance left with the game of football....but still, Arsenal have so many cnuts that people dislike them more somehow
Their manager was birthed in city's football destroying environment. He's taking Arsenal down with him.Everyone I know is going for City over Arsenal.
Which is hilarious, when you think about it.
City, buying the league, destroying football, huge rivals of us for years, arguably destroying any semblance of romance left with the game of football....but still, Arsenal have so many cnuts that people dislike them more somehow
You can hold both opinions - that City are cheats and Arsenal are the master of the dark arts/time wasting and general shithousery. It's not one or the other, and there's no need for you to go on this massive whataboutism rant.Irony of calling us cheats while we play against the biggest cheats in the history of our sport. Who have cost not only us but United and Liverpool actual trophies and titles.
Absolutely love it giving it back to them when they think they're entitled to every win, when every single game they get away with bookings. Kovacic last year twice. Love getting under their skin.
And ironically every other fan is laughing at City's crying when they have been doing the same for years (on top of actual cheating). The only other fans who are mourning our tactics are bizarrely United fans. It's utterly bizarre. The biggest City supporters outside City groups are some United fans. I suppose this is what City fans refer to as "one city"
You browse around this forum and yeah its a minority who defend City as most here understand how plastic City is and how insulting it is them trying to buy heritage. Except I suppose fans like you.
@IrishRedDevil yes. We are the only team across Europe which waste time when we are leading. Everyone just gets on with it.
Everything aside yes we do need to tone it a dial down as we can't pay off refs like City and soon we will be getting penalised. To add I don't think the insane slowing down the game we saw against City we will do against anyone else.
As it was the first time in more than a dozen away games where we actually didn't lead after the first goal.
What is it United fans say? Hated, adored, never ignored?Everyone I know is going for City over Arsenal.
Which is hilarious, when you think about it.
City, buying the league, destroying football, huge rivals of us for years, arguably destroying any semblance of romance left with the game of football....but still, Arsenal have so many cnuts that people dislike them more somehow
What is it United fans say? Hated, adored, never ignored?
everyone knows City are cheats. Bringing it up 24/7 is boring and is now becoming used as a way to avoid discussion points because the easy response is to just say "well they cheated so...".
It's completely irrelevant to the point being made.