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Can't see us being in for him.
Can't see us being in for him.
Arda Turan
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He's a good player but worth spending a decent fee on.
probably but we dont need to take every AM that is available, we have much bigger problems in other positions....
I can't disagree with that.
Pretty much everywhere else.
He's a type of player that Mourinho will like, better than all of City wide options and probably Arsenal.
Being misused currently at atletico. Would be great to see what he can do without the hindrance of such a system.
Could he play a CM position in our formation? Good dribbler, physical and a hard worker.
Carrick
Herrera Turan
I think we need a creative spark to our midfield, i like Herrera in the more limited box-to-box role.Herrera Turan
He's quite a balanced player, as in he can play across the Middle, works back and is good at keeping possession. I'd say he's ideal for lvg
I don't think he'd be a good signing for United but I think he'd fit in well at Citeh opposite Silva as the other winger/AM as long as they don't get Sterling.
Citeh could use some hard-work and energy. We need skill and production.
He's like Mata, but Mata is better player.
He plays on the wing for Atletico but can play central.
He is not like Mata, he scores less goals but fight a lot more for the team while probably being as good technically.
Positionwise(at AM and on the wing where he can play for us) is what I mean by same as Mata. Mata IMO is the better player and option for us at the moment.
Yes, I think he'd start for them all.
Chelsea he would replace either Oscar or Willian.
City he's better than Navas, or he could play as a #10 with Silva on the left.
He's better than Young and Mata isn't a winger. Memphis hasn't proven himself to be as good as him either.
Arsenal would probably drop Giroud and play Sanchez through the middle if they had him, or he'd fill in any of the three behind the striker.
I'd wager in a two legged affair Atletico would beat anyone in England.
I have seen him completely dominate Barcelona's midfield in the past 2 years. He is nothing like Mata who can be completely ineffective half the time. Arda works damn hard as Isco does for Real for example. Dribbles like Wilshere.
Is a good focussed team/club player. If he was English, he'd be a kings ransom.
I like this but schneiderlin instead of carrick
--------------------Lloris-------------------
Fabinho---Ramos------Smalling----Shaw
-----------------Schneiderlin--------------
----------Herrera---------Turan-----------
Di Maria--------Rooney-------Depay
With Mata as alternative for Di Maria or Turan
Oh yes I think we cracked it !
There isnt a manager in the land who would have a fit Schneiderlin over a fit Carrick. Sorry but Carrick can dictate play, positionally awesome, and has proven himself (although on here not sure) for many many years in the latter stages of the CL in addition to being the heartbeat of our midfield.
Not to mention Schneiderlin is much like Darren Fletcher in that he's more of a defensive box to box than an outright #6. It'd be Carrick with Schneiderlin, not either or.
You are under the illusion that carrick will actually be fit next season.
Don't you know his agenda is fully booked with appointments in the treatment room.
We don't need him and €40m rumours are plain ridiculous. He's not that young, he's not that good.
--------------------Lloris-------------------
---Fabinho---Ramos------Smalling----Shaw
------------Carrick Schneiderlin--------------
-------Di Maria----Herrera-----Depay
-------------------Rooney
Like the look of that back four and would set up like this if we can get the signings done but I wouldn't buy Turan.
I have always liked him since his Galatasarsay days but if Di Maria is staying put there is no need especially with Mata, Adnan still here.
---Fabinho---Ramos------Smalling----Shaw
------------Carrick Schneiderlin--------------
-------Di Maria----Herrera-----Depay
-------------------Rooney
Like the look of that back four and would set up like this if we can get the signings done but I wouldn't buy Turan.
I have always liked him since his Galatasarsay days but if Di Maria is staying put there is no need especially with Mata, Adnan still here.
This and This. God almighty if Carrick is fit Carrick plays. I dont see us buying the type of player who would change that this coming season.
LVG said himself his primary concern this summer is signing a holding midfielder because we have been lacking that this season.
Carrick is the onlyone in the team that can play the position properly but he has been more unavailable than not and it has had a deterimental impact on our performance as Blind couldn't actually replace him, Herrera is far more usefull upfront and so is Rooney. Considering he is turning 34 this season it is way past time United started thinking about future after carrick and replaced him.
It is why Schneiderlin or any other top DM midfielder is probably the top priority on his list and if we get him he'll play because we'll be building the team around that psoition. LVG isn't counting on Carrick anymore, he is actively looking for a replacement, yes carrick will be here next season but we won't be relying on him because the risk is too great and if he turns out to be fit he'll play some games but the focus will be on his replacement because that guy will be the future of our midfield together with Herrera and not Carrick, who will likley be regarded more as a squad player that needs to gradually be bled out of the team this year.
Actually LVG said a midfielder to bring balance.....not a DM. If we buy either SwineTiger or Schneiderlin they are box to box not going to replace a fit Carrick as the DM......IMO...which is as good as hearing it from LVG himself
Actually LVG said a midfielder to bring balance.....not a DM. If we buy either SwineTiger or Schneiderlin they are box to box not going to replace a fit Carrick as the DM......IMO...which is as good as hearing it from LVG himself
When he is talking about a midfielder to bring balance he is talking about Carrick. With carrick in the team we had balance, without him we had not. Which I agree makes Carrick a very important player in Van gaals sytem yet the problem is that he seems to be crocked and LVG wants to adress this by decreasing his realiability on Carrick because he belives Carrick might not be available for him as much as he'd like him to be. That is why wants to look for a replacement, somebody that can fulfill the role he currently needs to rely on Carrick for but will be far more available both this current season and in the near future (Carricks won't be around for ever since he is already 34).
No 100% wrong he was not talking about carrick...he was talking about a box to box type to play in there!
He was talking about carrick he said we lacked balance without him
So how would bringing a new midfielder that couldn't replace carrick solve the balance in our midfield.
Midfield worked perfectly if Carrick was DM with Herrera and Fellaini infornt of him. The trouble began when Carrick was injurred and we had to experiment with Rooney and Herrera on his position. Then we lost our balance and our good play.
Finding a Carrick replacement is LVGs top 1 priority I'am 100% sure of it
This makes much more sense than the "point backward" 4-3-3 in the post above. If I'm not mistaken, LvG has previously favoured the "point forward" variety (which is essentially your 4-2-3-1). But I really hope we don't finish up with Ramos.
[Edit: And I hope we're secretly negotiating for Christoph Kramer rather than Schneiderlin.]
So according to the Spanish press our interest is real and we have submitted a 30m+ euro bid. He's a good player but I'm not sure how I feel on this one. Can he play as a CM or is purely a wide playmaker ?
Er no, it says we might bid, which is according to TalkSport, who are just repeating what the rubbish in Italy said the other day from GdS. It's a load of nonsense.
In my eyes, if we sign Turan, I get the feeling LVG wants to mould Depay into a forward.
I don't recall watching a lot of Turan - but I'm sure he plays on the left? Could be totally wrong thus rendering this post pointless, but I can't see why we'd spent that much money on a winger and the amount we paid for Depay, while keeping ADM.
If Turan is in fact a right winger, then it would make more sense. The only things I hear about Turan is that he's a hard worker, good technically and is an engine.
I don't recall watching a lot of Turan - but I'm sure he plays on the left? Could be totally wrong thus rendering this post pointless, but I can't see why we'd spent that much money on a winger and the amount we paid for Depay, while keeping ADM.
If Turan is in fact a right winger, then it would make more sense. The only things I hear about Turan is that he's a hard worker, good technically and is an engine.
No transfer window is complete without an Arda Turan rumour.
"The No. 6 is one of the key roles," Van Gaal told Sunday newspaper reporters, as he referred to a defensive midfielder. "We have seen this season, with Michael Carrick, that he has spent a lot of time injured.
"I don't have another right-footed player who can play there so I have had to use Herrera there. He has done it very well, but it isn't his specialist position. I've also played Rooney there. It isn't his favourite position but I have had to use him in that role.
"So it is a key role but I can't discuss it further because then I show too much."
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Werent we interested in him the last 2 years? I swear we were getting linked with him when Moyes arrived and last year too.
He is versatile, technically great, likes to dribble, runs back. He isnt a goalscorer and not that fast, but isnt slow either. I like him, but dont see the need to splash 30m on him, unless we sell Mata/Di Maria (which shouldnt happen). I d rather we go for Isco if we go for that type of player.
He is versatile, technically great, likes to dribble, runs back. He isnt a goalscorer and not that fast, but isnt slow either. I like him, but dont see the need to splash 30m on him, unless we sell Mata/Di Maria (which shouldnt happen). I d rather we go for Isco if we go for that type of player.
Exactly. He is a very good player but at 28 years old and £32 million is not worth it.
Van Gaal is really only interested in the next few years - he is not likely to be around longer than that - this is probably his last big job and he will want to make an impact. No time to be hoping that young players come good.
He'd complete our midfield. Carrick, Herrera and him would be by far the best midfield in the prem. The only issue would be, who gets the cut between Mata and Di Maria?
Uhh?
Who'd be better?
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