Antony under investigation by Brazilian authorities for domestic abuse | Inquiries ended | Back in the squad

Irrespective of what people think of him, you can’t deny that ten Hag has had some abysmal luck with off-field happenings since joining.
 
When’s Amad due back? Time for he and Pellestri to stake their claim, although I see Bruno getting punted out right.
 
Oh for feck’s sake. Next someone will accuse Rashford of nicking an apple from Tesco ahead of a big game and we’ll have to sideline him too, while there’s a Partey in London.

Edit: note that I’m not making equivalences between DV and stealing an apple, I’m just pointing out that sidelining a player for accusations, regardless of what (punching a DJ for refusing to play Phil Collins) is always going to lead to calls for taking players out for less severe crimes as time goes by.
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
Give him a break, he knows better than Scarlett, his mate runs a non-profit after all.

If anyone was ever desperate for online validation it’s this fella, since the first day he arrived here.
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This is a heated topic and I wrote from a place of pain after going in circles with a number of people on this forum that have ignored data points I've cited for the sake of explaining why I have a particular opinion. And despite going to that length I've been branded as hating all men and unjust person for wanting to focus my discussion on making sure we don't take away from the victims situations., which i see as a bigger problem.

And yes, I have a mate. I resorted to bringing that up because the previous comment made me feel like my own opinions and feelings were not valid and pointless because there was no personal experience related to it.

So what, you want me to get vulnerable and tell my fecking story before you take anything I say seriously? What a condescending piece of drivel attitude..
Edit: removed personal stories for "weaponizing my trauma".

So yeah, I have a mate that runs a non profit. And I've got my own personal experiences that have made my perspective a very pointed one. And yeah I didn't drop this to say that your opinions were wrong - only to tell you to feck off for belittling my personal relationship with the subject. Ironically the exact same thing you're saying I did with Scarlet .
@Scarlett Dracarys so much for taking this offline. I've lost my composure and patience on this because of the other posters.
 
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Can’t fault the club for ‘suspending’ him. What confuses me is why there seems to be massive pressure on us doing the right thing when other high profile PL players with allegations continued to play.

Double standards don’t help those who fall victim to this type of behaviour.
 
Swedish_Plumber said:
Can’t fault the club for ‘suspending’ him. What confuses me is why there seems to be massive pressure on us doing the right thing when other high profile PL players with allegations continued to play.

Double standards don’t help those who fall victim to this type of behaviour.
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Man Utd is big enough and influential enough to single handedly change the way these issues are addressed in football. It matters more here.

IrishRedDevil said:
Have we got 11 players?
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Sancho seems likely to get a chance to prove Ten Hag wrong I suppose`?
 
Swedish_Plumber said:
Can’t fault the club for ‘suspending’ him. What confuses me is why there seems to be massive pressure on us doing the right thing when other high profile PL players with allegations continued to play.

Double standards don’t help those who fall victim to this type of behaviour.
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It says he hasn't been suspended though?
 
Where there’s smoke, there’s usually a fire.

Can we not get tribalistic (RAWKish) about this? Yes, he’s not been proven guilty of anything. But if all of this is true, THREE separate cases - then he can feck off.
 
JB08 said:
Irrespective of what people think of him, you can’t deny that ten Hag has had some abysmal luck with off-field happenings since joining.
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Yeah, the minute the guy walked into the club he had issues to deal with. He had the Ronaldo situation as soon as he came in. Then the whole Sancho thing which appeared to have been handled well initially, but has now gone sideways. Then we had the spotlight on Maguire and that whole situation. Greenwood and now Antony for their off-field issues. Not to mention the shitshow that is the club ownership...

Fecking circus.
 
Melville Red said:
Here’s hoping Pellestri gets a run out, at least we should see some crosses coming in from the right.
Every cloud an all that.
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I expect him to get virtually no minutes except maybe some off the bench. ETH will just play Bruno on the right or go with Rashford there with Garnacho on the left. Pellistri probably still has 3-4 players preferred over him on the right.
 
This club is such an embarrassment, even if these allegations turn out to be false. The media love it too -I just got a breaking news alert on my phone from BBC News, similar to a global event like the Morocco earthquake happening ffs.
 
Laurencio said:
Man Utd is big enough and influential enough to single handedly change the way these issues are addressed in football. It matters more here.



Sancho seems likely to get a chance to prove Ten Hag wrong I suppose`?
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Here’s hoping! Would be nice if some good came of this shit.
 
Laurencio said:
Man Utd is big enough and influential enough to single handedly change the way these issues are addressed in football. It matters more here.
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I disagree with the notion that we’re so much bigger than Arsenal, just to name a completely random example, in this context.
 
Happy to see alternatives to Antony for a while. Really hoping we don’t see a period of self-harm from ETH whilst he is out. Kiss it simple, stupid.
 
Swedish_Plumber said:
Can’t fault the club for ‘suspending’ him. What confuses me is why there seems to be massive pressure on us doing the right thing when other high profile PL players with allegations continued to play.

Double standards don’t help those who fall victim to this type of behaviour.
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There's a legal reason the press can't and haven't named the Arsenal bloke.

It's not that they've giving it less coverage than Antony and Greenwood, they can't cover it all.
 
I think this is the right call.

No mention of suspension hopefully it gets sorted out away from the glare of him still playing.What a terrible start to a season I and I'm sure a lot of others were optimistic about.
 
I'd love to see us use a different formation now Antony is out and Sancho will unlikely play.

Onana, Back 4, Casemiro, Amrabat, Eriksen, Fernandes, Rashford, Hojlund.

Flood the midfield with good possession players. Sacrifice the wings. Play Rashford and Fernandes more central behind Hojlund.

Garnacho and Pellistri to come on if chasing the game with Martial.

I'm actually looking forward to seeing the team without Antony. We have a big week coming up.
 
The way society is starting to assume someone is guilty before any proof is put forward in a courtroom is very dangerous. People have lost their careers, their families and ended up in prison only to be declared innocent years after the supposed incidents.

He could be guilty, but it could be 3 people wanting to get rich quick. That is why the courts presume someone innocent until proven guilty.
 
I’m kind of disappointed here despite it being the most sensible option because so far he’s not been charged with anything and there seems to be a lot of a question marks about multiple parts of the allegations against him. The greenwood case had the audio which put the club into a corner but this one doesn’t have any additional factors to it aside from the media doing their best to monetise the United fanbase’s anger.
 
duffer said:
There's a legal reason the press can't and haven't named the Arsenal bloke.

It's not that they've giving it less coverage than Antony and Greenwood, they can't cover it all.
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I’m a bit curious about why this is, not living in England. Wasn’t Mendy named in a similar legal situation? And why is it more important to not mention a guy that is charged and out on repeated bail as opposed to someone only accused of something?
 
Surely as a result of Greenwood, Antony and to a lesser different extent Sancho that the club needs to discuss immediately with the players about their relationships with women/men.

We need to stop this utter nonsense going forward. Social media for all the players needs to be kept tight and all the players need to be told to avoid situations that cause embarrassment on the club. It's not rocket science.
 
Kill 'em all said:
The way society is starting to assume someone is guilty before any proof is put forward in a courtroom is very dangerous. People have lost their careers, their families and ended up in prison only to be declared innocent years after the supposed incidents.

He could be guilty, but it could be 3 people wanting to get rich quick. That is why the courts presume someone innocent until proven guilty.
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It's sad and with spineless clubs like ours there is no telling where it will end. Sometimes you have to be hard-nosed and ride through the turmoil.
 
He hasn't been playing very well but it's still a blow, mainly because Diallo who would be my first choice to come in is injured. It would have been the perfect opportunity for him because ETH has a lot of loyalty to Antony it seems.

Not entirely sure what the best option is. I don't think right footed attacking midfielders playing wide right works. They're on their wrong foot to cut in and they have zero pace to actually beat anyone and cause a threat. Not enough dynamism in that. So maybe it's a chance for Pellistri?
 
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