What exactly did you want Club to Say .
Antony under investigation by Brazilian authorities for domestic abuse | Inquiries ended | Back in the squad
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From the official club statement "Based on the evidence available to us, we have concluded that the material posted online did not provide a full picture and that Mason did not commit the offences in respect of which he was originally charged. "
If you are talking about Greenwood, then I'm glad the media brought the club to the right decision.
Adds nothing to the discussion
Maybe we can find a Spanish club to loan Antony to. Seems like there’s not much of a problem having very controversial players play for a club there.
That’s not explaining away
Yeah, we’ve all read the statement. As I said, evidence neither the club nor the player have been able to explain away ever since.
Rachel Riley will be fuming with that statement.
Good point. That could be a factor.
They can't say anything. And can't stay quiet. It's a mess.
Just take the posters off your wall and accept ye have grown apart.
I don't understand why people think the club are under any sort of obligation to provide an explanation to us.
Nothing statement but there's also nothing they can say. As I've said before .. Greenwood situation was different due to the audio released. This is about the same as any other case. You can't make a decision based on just allegation, he said she said or whatever. If he gets charged, then he'll be suspended. If not, life goes on.
What did you want them to say?
Good statement. The final line was interesting as I don't recall seeing anything similar with Greenwood "...with consideration of the impact of these allegations and subsequent reporting will have on survivors of abuse."
And not a single comment on Arsenal who have been even more spineless than United. For what it’s worth, United absolutely did the correct thing, and didn’t bungle it, by suspending him with pay while the police were investigating and he was subsequently charged.There is no right thing here.
And as you have said United completely bungled it, they didn't act out of righteous indignation, because they did a u-turn after they faced the possibility of some uproar. If they had immediately terminated MG after the stuff came out then I would be more understanding of the decision, and applauding their lack of dithering, even if I disagreed with us taking such a loss. There's no right way on this, but there's credit in making a stern decision and standing behind it.
But United don't get any credit for this. They were bullied into a decision here (and the statement is so vacuous there are arguments on what it actually means). I'd use the word spineless but I got quality points for using it earlier
Once the charges were dropped, and United didn’t have access to the evidence in those original charges, it became very difficult for United - whatever their decision was, it was handled badly. But that doesn’t override the fact that they did the right thing initially.
There no credit for making the wrong decision and standing by it, like Arsenal have done.
You responded to a post saying that the Greenwood evidence was never explained away, with a quote from the club where they explicitly didn’t explain the evidence away. If you’d replied with the second post originally I wouldn’t have quoted you
Hoping Antony is found innocent quickly, if innocent.
(Sorry, shouldn't laugh - but it genuinely made me laugh, and there is no emoji for "nodding in approval whilst laughing but also looking somewhat concerned").
Were people this concerned during Partey's rapey investigation? Or Arsenal is beyond criticism?
Slowly realising.
Glazers are shite, we're a shambles, joke of a club, we're committing soduku
Realistically that’s about as much as the club can say and do at this point
Why would United fans be as concerned about an Arsenal player?
Well atleast we’re experts in dealing with this now, I guess.
united really feels on a low right now, I really feel for ETH. It’s just one thing after another.
united really feels on a low right now, I really feel for ETH. It’s just one thing after another.
What people are you talking about, specifically?
Good statement imo what else can they say?
Partey has been mentioned about a billion times on this board, this last year!
This can go on for months. Unfortunately, it’s a no-win situation for all the parties involved.
Yes man I think victims should be supported through tangible means. Such as
Reducing rape kit backlogs
Educating men on sexual assault, consent
Pushing for more cases to be prosecuted regardless of conviction rates
Anything that gets abusers (proven as such through court or through clear and convincing evidence in the public domain) in jail, and tangibly changing nasty behavior, I'm all for it, and all for society (including football clubs) investing resources in doing so.
Sadly we have to bow down to the media and public demands because sponsorships are the only way we make money this days. We certainly don't get prize money for winning stuff
What ever the public wants, the public gets. As long as they just keep buying the merchandise. We can't afford to have a negative public perception.
In any case, if he is charged by the police for a grave crime he must be suspended.
What ever the public wants, the public gets. As long as they just keep buying the merchandise. We can't afford to have a negative public perception.
In any case, if he is charged by the police for a grave crime he must be suspended.
I mean media.
What did you expect? It's an ongoing investigation so there isn't much to say
Larger percent of male victims don't report abuse, compared to female victims, that was the point.
This is the main one.
Encouraging young men to be respectful shouldn't be a big thing.
Utilitarian. Definitely anti-Kant
A lot of Utilitarians would be shocked by association. Myself included!