What’s the chances of an 100m bid on Monday if we get beat to Southampton…
Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.
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Its messing someone around if they don’t mention it.
Ajax “we want 80m for Antony’
United “okay leave it with us, we will have to come up with a structure as we have other deals to complete “
United bid 80
Ajax “Ahh sorry you waited too long, we now want 100m”
United negotiate again and bid 94m
Ajax “Ahh sorry we can’t get a replacement, it’s too late”
United “Too late? You knew we were coming back for the player and he wants to join, you’ve had all window to replace him?”
No wonder Antony is fuming
He stopped training after a decent offer was made and rejected last week and I think his frustration is more than fair to be honest. He didn't stop playing for their first two games as it doesn't sound like we made an offer and if we did, not a significant one.
I just think if we really wanted him we could have been more persistent sooner. We just seemed put off at the price earlier in the transfer window and it's not paid of for us unfortunately.
If I could find a bookie to take that bet…
If we had 'matched their demands' he'd be here now. The time to do it was when we bought Martinez at the latest. This mess was predictable.
Dont make up timelines to suit your narrative.
It was 80m for weeks and weeks. Then Ajax pre emptively came out BEFORE WE BID and said right you fecker are taking ages, we are in for a new season and the squad is settled. Its now HALF the time to find a replacement so its 100m if you want to change our minds.
We return after that and say "here is 80"
Its beggars belief how thick that is.
Yeah I’m sure that’s exactly how things played out.”Leave it with us”. Feck sake.
Dont make up timelines to suit your narrative.
It was 80m for weeks and weeks. Then Ajax pre emptively came out BEFORE WE BID and said right you fecker are taking ages, we are in for a new season and the squad is settled. Its now HALF the time to find a replacement so its 100m if you want to change our minds.
We return 4 fecking weeks after that and say "here is 80"
Its beggars belief how thick that is.
So you think the clubs don’t keep in contact during these things?
This isn’t football manager
”Leave it with us”. Feck sake.
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I know they have a small fanbase but come on mate.
Was you outside or was you in the sack?
Manchester City you muppet.
Oh yeah, you were perfectly clear about that, silly me.
Go on and put a few more examples that have nothing to do with this.
Ajax are being greedy bastards. End of story.
I know it, Antony knows it, the whole world knows it.
I know it, Antony knows it, the whole world knows it.
They do. But that doesnt mean we ever once matched their ask.So you think the clubs don’t keep in contact during these things?
This isn’t football manager
We royally fecked up pursuits of Sancho, Fabregas and FdJ.
Why on earth do you think that this is remotely any feckery from Ajax, a club well versed in efficient transfers without any nonsense.
We matched their initial ask, then went above it! Then they wanted more and more
When he signs (it’s a matter of when not if), he’ll be like a free lion on the pitch 
These tweets from a journalist stating Ajax are demanding 80 million, Ajax are demanding 100 million.. these are absolute bullshit. Is anyone in here actually considering the journalist is just talking nonsense/ guessing the transfer fee for clicks/attention/ whatever..
An other thing...
Ajax bought conceicao this summer for 5 million euros. The idea behind that was.. That conceicao has one year to addapt to Holland and Ajax playstyle in peace with no pressure. And that Antony could be his mentor/buddy since they both speak Portuguese. Similar to Neres showing Antony around when he was new. And that Antony being sold next summer so that conceicao could replace him next year..
This plan with conceicao clearly stated there was never a two year project with antony. Furthermore Antony has never ever mentioned this two year project. He was always in the media 'yeah I love Ajax..this club i love blabla'
An other thing...
Ajax bought conceicao this summer for 5 million euros. The idea behind that was.. That conceicao has one year to addapt to Holland and Ajax playstyle in peace with no pressure. And that Antony could be his mentor/buddy since they both speak Portuguese. Similar to Neres showing Antony around when he was new. And that Antony being sold next summer so that conceicao could replace him next year..
This plan with conceicao clearly stated there was never a two year project with antony. Furthermore Antony has never ever mentioned this two year project. He was always in the media 'yeah I love Ajax..this club i love blabla'
We matched feck all. 80m was upped to 100m under fair enough circumstances. We didn't match 80 at the time. Then we didnt match 100m.
The price was common knowledge to the likes of US and we still couldn't meet it.
I could have sworn I saw something in this very thread that a bid was made for that.
All I can find is that Santi bloke says that we’re expected to go in at €80M + €20M
My bad. Guess it was just €80M by itself as that’s all I can find. I’ve seen so much shite on here lately (tweets) things get confusing!
It’s nearly been 10 years. Does any other club get transfer pursuit failures a decade ago still used against them? Jesus
There's nothing fair here. They are asking what they think is the right fee and we are bidding to the extent we value him. There's no right and wrong here. If the two valuations don't meet then they don't.
Antony doesn’t think so? He told them over 6 months ago about this.
Why want to get a lump of money to source a replacement? Daft Ajax
Exactly.
Antony doesnt set his own price. Just like Kane cant set his own price in a golf course with Gary Neville.
Not sure what relevancy Antony has to this, the fee is set between clubs.
How can anyone defend the club in this situation. Do people think we get asking prices based on twitter rumours rather than actual discussion with the selling club?
Fabregas was a decade ago? Doesnt matter Ive given Sancho and FdJ to supplement it.It’s nearly been 10 years. Does any other club get transfer pursuit failures a decade ago still used against them? Jesus
It’s nearly been 10 years. Does any other club get transfer pursuit failures a decade ago still used against them? Jesus
I recall the botched Puskas deal. The bastards.
The clown family of Tampa should relinquish their annual dividends towards our next few transfers.
Ajax will let go because the player doesnt want to be there anymore. Theyre just trying to maximize profits.
So you don’t think when a player asks to leave the club discusses that with them and their agents? (Hint. They do)
It’s nearly been 10 years. Does any other club get transfer pursuit failures a decade ago still used against them? Jesus
It's the CAF (and Twitter tbf), our former managers winning a football game is still used as a stick to beat united with. Surprising because the last few PSG managers have won two UCLs and an EL between themselves since they got fired, but I never see PSG fans online do the same.
Do you even know what you're debating anymore? What relevance does this have with the fact that Ajax appetite on the fee was never met this window?
It was met. They decided to change it. Keep up.
If I was murtough and co., you'd just have to slap a 100m bid on the last day or before the last day of the window.
Take it or leave it. I doubt Edwin would feck us around. They are just waiting for that headline fee. Antony also has done his part to force the move. He seems to have had an agreement with his club since Feb that if a good offer comes in he can leave. Which is the norm for a club like Ajax whos business model revolves around selling players.
If still rejected then we go sign Gakpo or some other stopgap for depth.
Take it or leave it. I doubt Edwin would feck us around. They are just waiting for that headline fee. Antony also has done his part to force the move. He seems to have had an agreement with his club since Feb that if a good offer comes in he can leave. Which is the norm for a club like Ajax whos business model revolves around selling players.
If still rejected then we go sign Gakpo or some other stopgap for depth.
It was not met. They changed it before the bid was placed, because of fair reasons.
We did our standard incompetence and tried to bid on the old price.
Keep up.
It would really be absurd if we bid 100m for Antony. I would love him here though and the price wouldn't matter if we do well. If we don't, I guess the bashing and mockery continues
The crux of the matter here @VP89 is you think it’s reasonable for them to adjust the price whilst I don’t.
They need to start injecting their own money back into the club. Whether through share sales, their own private asset sales or finding new investors.
Thats why im not bothered at all by the fee.
You CANT scrimp and save from a position of weakness. When/if we build a trophy winning team, then thats when we can start making those savings by lowering our transfer fees.
Until then, it should be spend as much as possible to back the new manager.
feck them.
A famous man once said;
This shit's chess, it ain't checkers
This shit's chess, it ain't checkers
Exactly.
They are fully in their right to change appetite given a transfer window is dynamic and there are a lot of moving parts.
As long as they change their appetite preemptively and with fair reason, I dont mind. Its on us to say yes or no.
As @amolbhatia50k insinuated , we pay or we move on. Its that simple.
It does feel like yesterday but unfortunately yes - it’s been 9 years since Woody left the tour on urgent transfer business and never landed
It works both ways. You can’t set a price then raise it due to imaginary inflation.- Status