Can feel Romano tweet coming "No talks between Manchester United and Ajax for Antony but he is one of the players United have an interest in among others. Focus now is on De Jong"
Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.
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How quick is he? Really don’t like the idea of signing another winger who lacks pace/physicality (if that’s what he is.)
Ajax posters have said he is quick. Not Mbappe’s quickness but fine. Probably similar to Mahrez and he’s doing well at City on that right wing
He's definitely got pace to burn, clocked a 35.71km/h top speed last season.
That would be the fastest in our team
Fair enough. I’m not really a fan of top speed stats as acceleration is far more important but it’s encouraging nonetheless.
Speed will not be an issue, I think — Antony is pretty quick in confined spaces, and also fast over long distances. But his decision-making leaves a lot to be desired at this moment in time; if he continues to improve, expands his repertoire as a playmaker and becomes more consistent in terms of application, end product and proactiveness from week to week, he could establish himself as one of the very best wide attackers in the game — if he doesn't, he will mostly be remembered as a streets won't forget type who enthralled the masses but underdelivered vis-à-vis his talent level. If ten Hag rubber-stamps this signing, after overseeing the player's entire European career, then he must be convinced that Antony can be refined into a difference-maker of great significance and could at least partially deliver on some past comparisons...
https://www.vandaaginside.nl/nieuws/leclerc-pakt-poleposition-in-bakoe-verstappen-start-als-derde
Correct me if I’m wrong but Ribery isn’t quite rapid but he was top class on the wing. Besides Antony has enough tricks and skills to make himself a menace to beat a fullback on the wing
The fact that he'd be happy to play on the right wing and not drift into the left channel with every other attacker in the squad is a huge plus.
I'm not saying every winger should be getting chalk on their boots, but it's ridiculous how often over the years we've given opposing sides about 10 metres to defend.
I'm not saying every winger should be getting chalk on their boots, but it's ridiculous how often over the years we've given opposing sides about 10 metres to defend.
Antony and Sancho would, or at least should be a lot like Ribery and Robben.
Only seen him here and there and while he seems like an exciting player, does anyone know how he is in terms of performing on a consistent basis and how is his end product in terms of creativity? He seems to score some goals but isn't a major goalscorer, hope that improves with time!
In the modern game I want at least one of the wide forward/wingers to be able to contribute to at least 15 goals and 15 assists each.
In the modern game I want at least one of the wide forward/wingers to be able to contribute to at least 15 goals and 15 assists each.
I think what should be concerning is that every highlight in his compilation videos is of him doing an impressive (albeit unnecessary) piece of skill and getting into a promising area, and then the clip ends, as if trying to hide what happened (or what didn't happen) next...
Focusing on end product is not conclusive. He's 22. Many players explode between the age of 22-25 in terms of effectiveness. What's important is whether he has the natural talent to be an excellent RW. Based on some posters whose judgment I do trust he seems to be hugely gifted and someone who with the right coaching can become top class. If that's the case then ETH wanting would make it a no brainer.
We have to realize - we are dreadful at right wing. Elanga is our starting RW and let's be honest hes all effort and so far a bit average on the ball. You cannot go into the season with him as a starter. That doesn't mean we need just anyone but by all accounts Antony is a big talent so yeah, I'd back this transfer and given the players comments he'd be keen to work with ETH.
We have to realize - we are dreadful at right wing. Elanga is our starting RW and let's be honest hes all effort and so far a bit average on the ball. You cannot go into the season with him as a starter. That doesn't mean we need just anyone but by all accounts Antony is a big talent so yeah, I'd back this transfer and given the players comments he'd be keen to work with ETH.
I was under the impression that he was very quick. Maybe I was wrong.
You are wrong. He was absolutely rapid in his prime. His acceleration was very very quick in particular.
I remember him being pretty quick. Bayern with Robben and Ribery in their prime were one of the best teams I've ever seen, and part of the reason for that was the lightning pace they had on the wings
My concern would be if Sancho/Antony are quick enough + will they score enough goals.
We can't solely rely on Ronaldo next year.
We can't solely rely on Ronaldo next year.
They'll bring creativity, a team that create chances through patterns of play will have goals coming from different sources like City do.
Bruno would add to the goals tally, it's basically what he is world class at. Sancho and Antony on the wings really would be fun.
Exactly.
If we sign Antony, Sancho would, and should, end up challenging Bruno in the centre IMO. Rashford is being disregarded too quickly IMO, and his benefit as a direct goalscoring wide player shouldn’t be underestimated. If he starts the season well, he’ll play on the left, as he should, because we could very much use the 20 goals he is capable of.
Rashford/Sancho/Antony could be an exciting line behind Ronaldo.
I am on board
Agreed, when I look at some of the options out there, the 4 that come to mind are Antony, Rafinha, Nkunku and Dembele.
Overall, Antony is probably the least refined option. Though if he can continue to develop and put it together, he may have the highest ceiling. The good thing is, the things he needs to work on are centred around maturity, which hopefully gets better with age.
Dembele looks like is going to Chelsea and while a top creator with elite quickness and speed, has question marks around attitude, injuries, questionable finishing and would command a huge salary.
Nkunku has great numbers, I don't think is a true right sided player. I worry with him, we'll end up with another player that prefers the left hand side like Sancho, Rashford and Elanga. Also, I don't think he's a great dribbler, so against tight defenses will struggle.
Rafinha is probably the most sensible option. PL proven, contributes defensively, quick, fast, great dribbler, mature decision making. Down side is he'll be tough to get from Leeds and he's probably at close to his ceiling.
Head says Rafinha, heart says Antony.
Be delighted with either IF we can get De Jong to pick them out with those killer balls out wide
I will admit that I have not seen much of Antony. The odd bit of Champions League and a few bits once Ten Hag was confirmed isn't enough to judge.
However, I will say I'm a bit sceptical. I remember Ziyech, who's rarely looked anything more than quite good at Chelsea, looking amazing under Ten Hag at Ajax. IMO Ziyech was further ahead of Antony when he left that right wing spot at Ajax to come to England.
Of course, its not quite the same with Ziyech and Antony. Ziyech went to a Chelsea that play a fundamentally different style to Ajax. Whereas, if we sign Antony, he'll be coming to play under a coach who knows him and who he knows. That should help his adjustment to English football significantly. I just feel like, right now, he's not a player that we should be looking to buy for anything close to €60m.
I would not be surprised to see Antony struggling with the pace, physicality and standard of refereeing in English football. If we're going to be spending tens of millions on our right wing, I think we should making a safer bet.
However, I will say I'm a bit sceptical. I remember Ziyech, who's rarely looked anything more than quite good at Chelsea, looking amazing under Ten Hag at Ajax. IMO Ziyech was further ahead of Antony when he left that right wing spot at Ajax to come to England.
Of course, its not quite the same with Ziyech and Antony. Ziyech went to a Chelsea that play a fundamentally different style to Ajax. Whereas, if we sign Antony, he'll be coming to play under a coach who knows him and who he knows. That should help his adjustment to English football significantly. I just feel like, right now, he's not a player that we should be looking to buy for anything close to €60m.
I would not be surprised to see Antony struggling with the pace, physicality and standard of refereeing in English football. If we're going to be spending tens of millions on our right wing, I think we should making a safer bet.
Raphinha is available for 50m. I'd take him over Antony tbh. Much safer
Convinced he is Barca bound
Doubt it. Barcelona wouldn't pay that amount.
We will see
He’s been heavily linked with Barcelona since January. I think they already agreed in personal term.
It's looking less likely now that the 25m release cause no longer holds due to Leeds staying up
I don't know how to feel about this one anymore. I haven't seen enough of him. I am hearing that he tries very hard and is a good influence on urgency/hard-work - which is something we really fecking need - but not in the games against smaller teams? Not a fan of that.
I'd worry we had a team of very technically astute players but not enough goalscorers. Certain players just have a knack for getting the ball in the back of then net. Ronaldo is one. Shane Duffy is one...they can be anywhere on the pitch. We don't really have enough of those type of players IMO.
I still like this signing a lot, I think.
Suuurely Barca couldn't afford him with all of their issues?
I'd worry we had a team of very technically astute players but not enough goalscorers. Certain players just have a knack for getting the ball in the back of then net. Ronaldo is one. Shane Duffy is one...they can be anywhere on the pitch. We don't really have enough of those type of players IMO.
I still like this signing a lot, I think.
Suuurely Barca couldn't afford him with all of their issues?
As far what I know their current issue is preventing them to register new players. If they can sort it out by selling FDJ and etc, they will be able to register new players.
This. The talent is there and the lad is very young. Productivity will follow if he lives up to his massive potential.
An excellent video by @Raaes.
Interesting analysis that if he came to Utd he needs a better RB than Wan-Bisska or Dalot. Someone who will provide the overlapping fill back runs.
Looks a real talent.
Interesting analysis that if he came to Utd he needs a better RB than Wan-Bisska or Dalot. Someone who will provide the overlapping fill back runs.
Looks a real talent.
that’ll be elanga.
Elanga is surprisingly very good in the air, his stamina and pace would be a good asset for a modern fullback.
He did very well at RB against Norwich with Ralf sent his praises, will be interesting to see where he will fit in next season.
I hadn’t realised/forgot he did that already.
I do think though he will become a flying fullback in the future. He reminds me of Alfonso Davies, and with Antony looking to cut inside he would get a lot of space to motor into.
Obviously defensively would require work, but with his speed and work rate he would be hard to get passed on the outside.
Sign him up
Love a good shithouser in the side
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