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He reminds me a bit of Nani, very talented for sure but I think he could be really frustrating.
I hadn’t realised/forgot he did that already.
I do think though he will become a flying fullback in the future. He reminds me of Alfonso Davies, and with Antony looking to cut inside he would get a lot of space to motor into.
Obviously defensively would require work, but with his speed and work rate he would be hard to get passed on the outside.
Signing him would soften the nunez blow.
Really? Nunez is decent but certainly not an elite striker. A massive risk for 80m!
Unproven at top level and one good season with Benfica isnt enough to get excited about him and to spend so much on him. Id rather spend the same amount and FDJ in.Nunez may be a donkey for all i care, he's an upgrade on martial and rashford.
Antony is naturally a more talented player than Nkunku imo. But Nkunku can be utilised in a number of positions and can perform tasks effectively. So when it comes down to being more effective right now for the team, then Nkunku does look the better option.
But if we look at the composition of our squad and look deeply into team balance, then Antony being a natural fit for the RWF role should be prioritised ahead of Nkunku imo.
Unproven at top level and one good season with Benfica isnt enough to get excited about him and to spend so much on him. Id rather spend the same amount and FDJ in.
Antony is naturally a more talented player than Nkunku imo. But Nkunku can be utilised in a number of positions and can perform tasks effectively. So when it comes down to being more effective right now for the team, then Nkunku does look the better option.
But if we look at the composition of our squad and look deeply into team balance, then Antony being a natural fit for the RWF role should be prioritised ahead of Nkunku imo.
He’s played at a high level in the champions league so his record in his own league is not entirely relevant in this case. Also, I would take comfort that ten Hag knows his capabilities.His numbers are not good at all considering his league and who he plays for.
Won't pretend I've watched much of him but he'd need to nearly come in and double those numbers instantly......
We got to be building to beat City and Liverpool who are both relentless
That's pretty much it. Nkunku isn't playing as a 10 or LW if we have injuries, and Antony should be better at RW.Nkunku can play in different positions, but only one at a time. Heaven even knows where that one will be. And in isolation, there are question marks of him in each if the positions we speak of. It is only the accumulation of these roles that makes him more attractive I feel.
I agree with you that I prefer Antony. He’s a better right winger than Nkunku, and if that is where Nkunku is going to play for us, it matters little that he can also do alright in other roles.
I think the problem with Bruno is that he’s the outfield version of de Gea in that he shines when we’re at our shittest. He’s very good in a counter attacking team where he can unsettle defences by moving the ball quickly into dangerous areas before teams can adjust. He’s a terrible decision maker in settled play however and often will spoil god play by taking an idiotic shot from distance out into traffic or make a risky/poorly executed pass when we’re ratcheting up pressure only to concede a counter attack.Lots hate his whiney attitude. I’d agree with them too, stop rolling round on the floor throwing your arms out you shithead and get on with it.
Nkunku is a utility player that has been putting up numbers in Germany and would be effective for us. But like you, I do believe Antony is the more natural fit for the RWF role. And the Brazilian is also more gifted on the ball in open play, which is often ignored by many who only look at things from a statistical perspective.Nkunku can play in different positions, but only one at a time. Heaven even knows where that one will be. And in isolation, there are question marks of him in each if the positions we speak of. It is only the accumulation of these roles that makes him more attractive I feel.
I agree with you that I prefer Antony. He’s a better right winger than Nkunku, and if that is where Nkunku is going to play for us, it matters little that he can also do alright in other roles.
Wouldn’t ETH be the best judge of that?A baller but weren’t there rumours of this lad having attitude problems ?
An excellent video by @Raaes.
Interesting analysis that if he came to Utd he needs a better RB than Wan-Bisska or Dalot. Someone who will provide the overlapping fill back runs.
Looks a real talent.
I reckon his parents.Wouldn’t ETH be the best judge of that?
My concern with nkunku is that although he’s versatile, right wing seems to be the one area he doesn’t have a strong cv in and it’s probably our greatest need in our forward cohort and so I like Antony better. I’d be more concerned if we didn’t have Sancho who’s pretty versatile across the forward positions.Antony is naturally a more talented player than Nkunku imo. But Nkunku can be utilised in a number of positions and can perform tasks effectively. So when it comes down to being more effective right now for the team, then Nkunku does look the better option.
But if we look at the composition of our squad and look deeply into team balance, then Antony being a natural fit for the RWF role should be prioritised ahead of Nkunku imo.
I agree, it makes more sense for us to go for Antony.My concern with nkunku is that although he’s versatile, right wing seems to be the one area he doesn’t have a strong cv in and it’s probably our greatest need in our forward cohort and so I like Antony better. I’d be more concerned if we didn’t have Sancho who’s pretty versatile across the forward positions.
He looks amazing on you tube clips... flicks and tricks ... I do wonder how many flicks and tricks fail miserably and don't make the highlight vids
But hard not to hope we get him when you see what he can do
Preparing to explore the possibility of thinking about submitting a verbal bid
He looks amazing on you tube clips... flicks and tricks ... I do wonder how many flicks and tricks fail miserably and don't make the highlight vids
But hard not to hope we get him when you see what he can do
He reminds me a bit of Nani, very talented for sure but I think he could be really frustrating.
Wait, are we in for nigel de jong?I had a feeling we were trying this as an alternative plan A just encase Darwin Nunez didn’t come (incidentally he would have been signed to play inverted striker and no 9) so we would then go for a creative left footed Right winger, This is our no 1 target for our likely alternative option with Marco Asensio as the no 2 target and maybe Jared Bowen also on the. List.
Looks like we are telling the selling club , we’d like to do business , but you can’t rip us off anymore and if you try well simply go for someone else of similar footballing abilities.
Perfect Window Now
Transfers out; P Jones(5), D Henderson (35),, AWB (20), A Tuanzebe (7), A Martial (23) Loans 5M T Chong, Etc -95M
Transfers In: Antony (50), NDJ(65)
P Torres (45) R Lewandowski (25), A Witsel or N Kante 25, C Errikssen (Free) +
Net spend -£115M
Obviously this is never going to happen but imagine fans on this site losing their S….if it did ?
So many would start talking about a title challenge not realising ETH just made his job twice as difficult telling either Ronaldo or Lewandowski your being rested, or Bruno or Errikssen or Rashford or Sancho or Antony or Sancho, my point is I hope we sign this kid, I like the look of his delivery but let’s not put to much pressure on him , Pellistri or A Diallo could stay and be better we just don’t know, I’m betting however he will run through brick walls for ETH and not be looking to get a big fat 5 year contract on 260k per week like another footballing mercenary like Marco Asensio from Madrid.
Yes by a Brazilian journalist who is apparently reliable. Not broke to the english/dutch press yet though so can't be that close yet.I'd love him here but are we even linked with him?
seems to be ignored largelyHis numbers are not good at all considering his league and who he plays for.
Won't pretend I've watched much of him but he'd need to nearly come in and double those numbers instantly......
We got to be building to beat City and Liverpool who are both relentless
He doesn't look much like Bernado Silva who plays central for City. Antony just looks a typical winger. Pep told Sterling in order to play in Citeh's frontline you have to score goals so I don't get the comparison unless we are to deploy him in the middle.This is why our team is so disjointed, B Silva doesn't get many goals or assist but he's crucial for City with his creativity, work rate and ball progression.
Anthony will bring this qualities as well, what he does will create space for others.
High level in the champions league? when? And surely league form is a better barometer as its a far larger sample size?He’s played at a high level in the champions league so his record in his own league is not entirely relevant in this case. Also, I would take comfort that ten Hag knows his capabilities.
What's up with his spinning technique that he has in his highlight reels?
Does it even serve any purpose other than being flashy for the sake of being so?
Bit like Bale then?What is his mentality like? Looks confident but also got a drive in him.
pardon?Antony and Sancho would, or at least should be a lot like Ribery and Robben.
you are 100% correct to feel this way and is the most sensible train of thought.I will admit that I have not seen much of Antony. The odd bit of Champions League and a few bits once Ten Hag was confirmed isn't enough to judge.
However, I will say I'm a bit sceptical. I remember Ziyech, who's rarely looked anything more than quite good at Chelsea, looking amazing under Ten Hag at Ajax. IMO Ziyech was further ahead of Antony when he left that right wing spot at Ajax to come to England.
Of course, its not quite the same with Ziyech and Antony. Ziyech went to a Chelsea that play a fundamentally different style to Ajax. Whereas, if we sign Antony, he'll be coming to play under a coach who knows him and who he knows. That should help his adjustment to English football significantly. I just feel like, right now, he's not a player that we should be looking to buy for anything close to €60m.
I would not be surprised to see Antony struggling with the pace, physicality and standard of refereeing in English football. If we're going to be spending tens of millions on our right wing, I think we should making a safer bet.
agreed.Raphinha is available for 50m. I'd take him over Antony tbh. Much safer
City top scorer in the league is Debruyne on 15, Mahrez 13 and Sterling 11.seems to be ignored largely
He doesn't look much like Bernado Silva who plays central for City. Antony just looks a typical winger. Pep told Sterling in order to play in Citeh's frontline you have to score goals so I don't get the comparison unless we are to deploy him in the middle.
That's a name I hadn't heard for a long time!Tell that to the fans who got to experience the Kanchelskis pirouette
Didn't know they only played in one competitionCity top scorer in the league is Debruyne on 15, Mahrez 13 and Sterling 11.
The season before this it was Gundogan on 13 goals, even the likes on Fred will get goals when we start to create chances via clear patterns of play.
I'm more interested in our players being able to move the ball with accuracy and pace alongside good movement off the ball.
Anthony knows what it takes to play under ETH so if ETH fancy bringing him here I'm on board.