Doesn't matter, they won't get out of the group stages or ro16 of the CL.
Their biggest cash injection will be the Antony deal this summer.
Theyll finish second at most in the Dutch league.
Not like they'll go on to win the CL.
Antony wants to leave hes not training, there's an offer for €94m regardless of Ziyech they'll sell.
As it stands, in the situation we're in there aren't really any alternative options. Regardless of there being no feasible options, it still doesn't make this a good value transfer. I'm not against this transfer but I'm not super excited by the player or the fee which I think is okay.For the people that think it's too much money what's the alternative?
1. Not signing the RW we wanted all summer and playing the season with a really thin attacking core
2. Signing a LW that isn't better than Antony, if not even worse than what we already have in Gakpo.
I would love Frenkie, a right back and goalkeeper just as much as the next guy but that's just not going to happen with a week left and the current reports of what and who the club wants. Might as well splurge on Antony, who is a joy to watch, a true RW (a position we've been looking to fill for ages, sadly Sancho performs better on the left) and a player that fits what Ten Hag wants to do.
He's a real baller and comfortable with the ball in his feet. The fees we need to pay these days are absolutely abysmal but so is the current state of our product on the field. It will always be a risk but I think Antony is a risk worth taking and I'm hopeful he will be a massive boost for our team and towards our desire to attack and dominate our opponents.
Most rubbish post I‘ve seen in a while.
They had 18 points in the CL group stage.
Transfers used to be really fun. Antony is exactly the type of player I grew up hoping we'd sign. The Internet has led so many people to think they are analysis experts, we're over thinking the shit out of everything and sucking the fun out.
Do I want to sign an exciting winger, who will most likely provide moments that gets everyone out of their seats and is of an age where they are likely to keep improving?
It's a simple yes. Not knowing how they will perform etc is a big part of the fun and mystery. None of this nonsense was around when we signed Veron and players him. We're getting to a point where almost no transfer is exciting because armchair experts analyse things to death.
I just want to look forward to the games on a weekend. Antony is an exciting signing. It's really as simple as that to me.
They'd be stupid to turn down that sort of money
Time to give up on Frenkie, come on.What would people prefer -
1) Antony and no CM signing
Vs.
2) FDJ & Inferior attacker i.e. Depay?
I am asking in here rather than the FDJ thread to try and get a balanced view..
Not actually sure what more the guy can do apart from cut his left foot off in protestHopefully Antony turns the screw even further in order to force this through.
100% agree, but not sure spunking £90m on a winger from the Eredivisie is a wise move..Time to give up on Frenkie, come on.
Definitely FDJ.What would people prefer -
1) Antony and no CM signing
Vs.
2) FDJ & Inferior attacker i.e. Depay?
I am asking in here rather than the FDJ thread to try and get a balanced view..
I agree but I just think that we have wasted too much time on FDJ, it would have happened by now, if it was going to happen.Definitely FDJ.
Not because I don’t rate Antony, but I just don’t think he could have made enough impact in his first year with us in PL. Remember even Sancho suffered badly in his first season with us. Plus we also have Garnacho waiting in the wings. He could be just as good.
This is a great post.I‘m getting sick of the incessant moaning of certain pathetic individuals.
-Darwin Nunez goes to Pool for 100 mill and you moan: Why didn‘t we get him?
-Antony may cost 90+ million and you moan: It‘s too much, we are always overpaying.
-Frenkie de Jong wanted to stay at Barça and you moan: he doesn‘t want to come here we don‘t want him.
-Antony wants to come here and you moan:
we don‘t want him.
-Frenkie de Jong is a priority target and you moan: he is not a true dm.
-Casemiro, the best dm in the world comes here and you moan: he is not a playmaker.
Should I go on? You Miserable fecking cnuts!?
Antony after we signed Casemiro.What would people prefer -
1) Antony and no CM signing
Vs.
2) FDJ & Inferior attacker i.e. Depay?
I am asking in here rather than the FDJ thread to try and get a balanced view..
Most rubbish post I‘ve seen in a while.
They had 18 points in the CL group stage.
So you would rather us sign neither because you think the price is too high?100% agree, but not sure spunking £90m on a winger from the Eredivisie is a wise move..
What would people prefer -
1) Antony and no CM signing
Vs.
2) FDJ & Inferior attacker i.e. Depay?
I am asking in here rather than the FDJ thread to try and get a balanced view..
What would people prefer -
1) Antony and no CM signing
Vs.
2) FDJ & Inferior attacker i.e. Depay?
I am asking in here rather than the FDJ thread to try and get a balanced view..
Add to that - with the sales they have made - they can afford to sign 4-5 quality players from Germany, Austria, Holland or Belgium
I saw someone posting how much money Ajax was taking every year from transfers like the club is sitting on a huge pile of money, but what that list doesn't tell you is that Ajax needs to sell €50m a year just to break even. The tv rights deal is €10m a year, there is no treasure fleet worth close to €200m sailing in every year like it is for United that can be p*ssed away on pricy gambles, excessive wages and players with little to no resale value.
Ajax was hit especially hard by the Covid pandemic, losing approx. €40m which is akin to two huge transfers for the Eredivisie.
The current transfer record stands at €31m for Bergwijn who is only 24 years old and will still be able to transfer to a bigger league in 2-3 years time. Ziyech is close to 30 and represents far less resale value in that same time frame.
Ajax looks for two types of player:
- Prospects who can be sold on for profit;
- Seasoned players that are available at a reasonable fee and make up for their high cost by contributing to on-pitch stability and better development of prospects.
Ziyech falls into the latter category, but the price is simply too high to justify from a financial perspective. The league is the limiting factor.
Still think Ajax should sell because no other club will offer this kind of money, it's all due to Ten Hag being determined to get him. It will mean that Ajax will be playing with only one functional wing which is far easier to defend and will lead to results taking a hit as they always do.
€90m is way too much for a player with only one functional foot. The numbers of time he's been free in front of goal well within the box with the ball perfectly placed for his right foot only for him to move it to his left allowing defenders to clear it or block the shot ... so frustrating. Zero confidence in his right. The only thing he uses his right foot for is to prevent himself from falling over.
Not as far as 1-on-1 replacements go. The only reason that Ziyech is interested in coming to Ajax is due to his prior history at the club. That's a very limited recruitment pool.
Antony was bought for €16m with a 20% sell-on over profit. 20% of €74m = €15m
Leaving (on paper only because there are bound to be additional costs) €59m. United could then spend close to 2/3 of that money on buying a 1-on-1 replacement, Ajax can't. No EPL money, no sugar daddy (although at United it's more like Scrooge before the hauntings at this point).
Definitely FDJ.
Not because I don’t rate Antony, but I just don’t think he could have made enough impact in his first year with us in PL. Remember even Sancho suffered badly in his first season with us. Plus we also have Garnacho waiting in the wings. He could be just as good.
What would people prefer -
1) Antony and no CM signing
Vs.
2) FDJ & Inferior attacker i.e. Depay?
I am asking in here rather than the FDJ thread to try and get a balanced view..
Deep down we all know Frenkie is worth 80m and Antony is not, at least not yetDe Jong but that has all to do with high I rate De Jong and not a slight against Antony.
With that being said, I left the De Jong train weeks ago.
FDJ thread is not the place for balanceWhat would people prefer -
1) Antony and no CM signing
Vs.
2) FDJ & Inferior attacker i.e. Depay?
I am asking in here rather than the FDJ thread to try and get a balanced view..
This is a great post.
Oh FDJ and Depay 1000000%
FDJ, Casemiro and Bruno would make us an absolute force.
Unfortunately Frenkie is probably not realistic at this point.
FDJ easily. That's been ETH's priority all summer. Otherwise, Antony would've been already.What would people prefer -
1) Antony and no CM signing
Vs.
2) FDJ & Inferior attacker i.e. Depay?
I am asking in here rather than the FDJ thread to try and get a balanced view..
FDJ easily. That's been ETH's priority all summer. Otherwise, Antony would've been already.
Still more than happy if was only Antony. He wants to be here, which always a plus, & he's very much on the way up.
FDJ thread is not the place for balance