The goals under Ten Hag will be widespread. I don't think we will be concentrating it on one or two players.
Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.
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Neres was important that season when after he did not leave Ajax we beat Madrid and Juventus. All players basically doubled in value only not Neres since he was injured a lot the season after and then we bought Antony. If Antony stays and we reach the semi final again it could also turn into a situation Real Madrid buys him for 125 million. Its football and anything can happen. Right now Ajax doesnt have a player ready and Chelsea is not being asy on us.
My guess is Chelsea will fold eventually and they're just trying to bleed as much out of the deal as they can
This place makes a lot more sense when you realise a lot of people on here, have over time moved away from supporting United and turned into generic internet football fans.
You need to think again if you think Ajax is doing this to win the league.
Winning the league in the Eredivisie is weird, as there are 2 teams that stand out far beyond the rest. Ajax wants to compete in Europe, and you need players like Antony for that. Whether you give them 100 million, Ajax can't find an improvement on Antony bar Ziyech potentially. All other positions except RB, and GK can barely be strengthened further. Top players don't come to the Eredivisie unless they have some history there.
Yes, but probably the worst goalscoring frontline too, according to their past year stats.
Come on make this happen
You make a good point. I too have to say that, that performance vs. Liverpool blew my mind. I didn't think for one second that they were capable of being that intense. We've been saying for years that Martial et al., if only they could run would be world beaters. If Ten Hag believes Rashford, Martial, Sancho, Antony is enough then I'm nobody to question it, you know. The only point I would say is it's a 50/60 game season, what would we do for rotation?
Please go on, this is the funniest post I've seen for while.
Why? They rather have a fee than a demotivated player and a reputation of a club that ruins careers of stars
Yeah I mean fair enough for the ambition but half your team was just sold and your elite level manager has been replaced. Its a transition year. And Antony isn't staying past next season, it's pretty clear he doesn't want to be part of a "Ajax push for the CL" project which will take a few years.
Hey if you want to keep an unhappy player who’s refusing to turn up to training and could potentially unsettle the dressing room because the club are blocking his move then by all means do that. We’ll just bide our time and come back for him next summer and probably sign him for half the price.
Just one Antony away from a dream 'Anthony, Anthony, Antony' front three...
It is funny because it is pretty much what happened.
Thought we would get the Here we go by now.. Tis taking too long
Last year's stats are not a good barometer to look at. If we're looking on absolute worst case, disaster scenario, sure. But in that scenario no amount of goals helps us and we're just banter FC again. Martial is playing his best football for ages, and the hope he stays fit. He had a 20+ goal year with Ole and a 17 goal year with Van Gaal, the 2 managers who showed the most faith in him, so the hope is he can match that at least with Ten Hag who also clearly likes him.
Rashford had back to back 20+ goal years. Sancho has regularly been a 15+ a season in all comps guy at Dortmund. Bruno is capable of 10-20 depending on if he's on pens or not. Ronaldo will rotate in there. Eriksen is good for 5-10 for sure. There's enough goals throughout the squad, it's about just getting the system good and the goals will come naturally just as they do for City.
Yes but he’s only reporting United’s feelings/opinions. Not reporting any sort of news.
Ronaldo, Elanga, and Garnacho? 7 players for 3 spots. Elanga and Garnacho are young guys that bring energy, pace and can press for short spells against weaker sides. Garnacho needs minutes to develop at the top level. He has the potential to be world class imo. Between those 3 and the top 4 options you listed, there’s enough squad depth to get through the season. If they sell Ronaldo, they add another CF for a small fee…or possibly get Depay/Gakpo anyway depending on the requested fee.
But Sesko's first name is Benjamin
Obviously having to wait for Chelsea / Ajax to stop their flirting before we get that.
Don't think Ajax finding a replacement is needed. We can talk about Ziyech but the reality is if United offer €94m as expected it far exceeds there "feck off price" its crazy money and that offer doesn't hinder on them finding someone else.
That fee outweighs where they get in the CL as they won't win it anyway.
That fee outweighs where they get in the CL as they won't win it anyway.
You meanAnthony elanga Anthony Martial Antony
Throw in a summer bid for Toney, and we're laughing.
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No it's not a transition year really, Ajax isn't buying these players for near record fee's to transition.
The target is always clear, win the title, win the cup, and make it past the group stage. The club and team needs to get used to that level, and they want Antony for that. Antony could stay for 2 more years, if Ajax wants so, but will likely be 0 or 1 max.
It gives Ajax more time to find replacements, to build and be competitive whilst they are at it.
For me 25 is the absolute max. Ajax don't get 200m tv money every year. We have a totally different budget. Spending 25m+ on a player without resale value is terrible business for Ajax.
Chelsea bought him for €45m. Two years down the road it's clear the current coach absolutely has no appreciation for him. Ziyech is no serious part of Chelsea's plans in any way. Moreover he's now 29 yo and getting past his best days. Chelsea can't seriously argue that in this situation he's still worth much more than €16-20m.
On the other hand I realise if you receive a lot of money yourself you're always going to be forced to pay more. That's in the game and can acceptable to a certain extent. However it doesn't mean that you should take a very bad proposal which in the end is bad business for the club. I understand Chelsea trying to play this game and in the end Chelsea can ask what they want. However, in my view anything Ajax pays over €20m is paying more than he's worth given his role and position in the Chelsea team and the fact that he has no resale value. Therefore in my opinion Ajax should walk away from this. Chelsea have the right to.ask what they want, but €44m is not even close to what Ajax should even consider.
way too much effort but damn straight44m for Ziyech…Chelsea are taking the piss I thought they would sell for around 10m he’s obviously not needed
They need fofana money
Annoying when the shoe is on the other foot isn't it! Chelsea know they've just rinsed us, but apparently it's ok for them and not for Chelsea?
True but Chelsea is watching Ajax demanding €100m for Antony and they're thinking: 'Well if you give us a big chunk of that you can still make a profit.' This is the problem with doing business late in the window: The selling clubs have all the power and everyone knows exactly what cards the other fella is holding.
So true. You’d have thought he would have learned from woodwards mistakes but obviously not
Ajax are being cruel to the poor lad
Disgusting
Disgusting
<Insert Ronaldo slave quote here>
Ajax aren’t that club to be spending 44m on 30 year old. They’d be lucky to get 20m to be honest.
Why just compare to them, what about Nunez or Felix? Against those two he looks far better value!
In fairness to a Chelsea they know full well that Ajax stand to make upward of 80m from us for Antony and will want a piece of that for Ziyech. Ajax will just have to join the big boys and pay some big bucks.
Also dont forget Antony actually handed in a transfer request so they would have to be low to not let him go.
Also dont forget Antony actually handed in a transfer request so they would have to be low to not let him go.
Oh no absolutely not worth the £100m, sorry i just lost the point of your post or the point you were trying to make....
I have to admit I don’t get the shock in any of these reactions. Chelsea are doing what they are supposed to from a tactical point of view: fecking with us, a rival, and doing their utmost to either scupper the deal completely or get a good chunk of that penalty tax themselves. Win-win for them, regardless.
Our strategic planning (or lack thereof) is ripe for the taking.
Absolutely, it made me laugh out loud because it is true!
Ajax can buy someone else though, €94m won't be turned down
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