Works his socks off, but as a winger at United he is shockingly bad. I see why ETH trusts him but he has to create and score so much more. Needs replacing because there are many wingers who can work hard and have a better output. I don't see how Antony stays as a starter at United unless he finds his passing/scoring boots.
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If he had a speed of Salah, he would have gotten several chances yesterday. That’s his weakness - he is slow and can’t outrun defenders 
And unlike some other qualities, running speed can’t be trained
And unlike some other qualities, running speed can’t be trainedJust sell him regardless. We have too many flops who turn into expensive squad players.
He works hard and keeps the shape but he is seriously just so limited going forward that we might as well play just let Amad play. Genuinely Dan James would be a better option, I think if he got that ball from Onana yesterday he would have gone straight through on goal.
What? of course it can be.If he had a speed of Salah, he would have gotten several chances yesterday. That’s his weakness - he is slow and can’t outrun defenders
Id play him right back. He may just be a good player in that position.
But it just doesn’t happen. Is there at least one example of a player recently whom we trained to run faster?
Yeah he reminds me most of Memphis in his absolute helplessness against defenders. With both you just know the defenders have got them and they can’t get away.
If he had a speed of Salah, he would have gotten several chances yesterday. That’s his weakness - he is slow and can’t outrun defenders
He doesn't necessarily need speed if he has guile and other attacking attributes however he doesn't provide any threat whatsoever which adds to our attacking woes.
Mbappe used to be as fast as Harry Maguire in his younger years.
He is such an awful signing, awful. No pace and no physicaliy, even if he does a trick and beats a player they catch him up. He is constantly brushed off the ball. Even for £30m he'd be poor, for £80 he is just terrible. The fact that he played for Ajax and ETH was so so desperate to sign him is why I expect ETH to get sacked and frankly should be sacked. He was always limited, he cannot cross, woefully one footed, and it seems had already been ruled out by our scouts. Arguably for the money along with Sanchez the worst signing the club has ever made.
I have to admit I was wrong about him. Really thought he'd add much needed flair and creativity on the right wing.
But offensively he has been very underwhelming. Someone like Mahrez wasn't fast either but he was crafty and skillful.
But offensively he has been very underwhelming. Someone like Mahrez wasn't fast either but he was crafty and skillful.
helped defensively but shit at attacking
Talented
He's good at being a defensive winger but he's not a fullback. Can't jump, and I can guarantee you Dalot with the ball is sprinting past him regularly in training sessions.
If you have seen his passing/crossing ability, you know there is NO other place for him than that right wing where he can actually do his crab dribbling.
If you have seen his passing/crossing ability, you know there is NO other place for him than that right wing where he can actually do his crab dribbling.
But at Man Utd? Perhaps we simply don’t have such coach wizards…
I don't have the stats, but are you trying to suggest no one has ever gotten faster? Are they just one max speed for the rest of their life?
Yeah, Mahrez had 1. One of the best first touches in the league, and 2. Dribbling ability to routinely beat a player. Fingers crossed Amad is more of that player. Maguire actually made that comparison about Amad, having played with Mahrez at Leicester.
I think certain players can improve their speed. I'm thinking specifically of young players who add strength. Garnacho for instance could really benefit from adding a bit more muscle. Greenwood I believe, improved his pace after getting a bit stronger. Same for Cristiano Ronaldo too.
If we were to put him on the market with a £15m price tag, I don’t think we would actually receive many offers, he’s that bad. He would basically be of no use to any mid-tier or lower half PL side as he’s beyond useless on a counter, the only way you can make any use of him is when you are in possession and even then he’s ridiculously easy to defend against as he has literally one go to move. I would literally have ancient Willian ahead of him and by quite some margin.
We would have to cover most of his wages in order to get a fee like that. And that would be a long shot too.
I feel for him. He just lacks the physical attributes to succeed as a winger in the prem. So many times it looks like he's going to be played through with space or take on the fullback and everytime the defender catches up with him easily. Even Thiago Silva at 39 outpaced him 
I am trying to suggest, that - at Man Utd at least - we haven’t experienced such cases in recent years.
But Antony is not 18-19 years old. He is 23 and is physically at his peak, most likely. Very young lads like Mainoo and Garnacho are likely not there yet
True, in this instance I don't see it happening. I think we should cut our losses.
We shouldn’t sell him. We should just convert him into a RB and tell him it’s his opportunity to work off his transfer fee. We’d get about £5m for him if we tried to sell him. Surely there’s more value in him doing all that running as an inverted full back?
It's worth a go I suppose. Though I'd rather sell him and one of Dalot/Wan-Bissaka and strengthen both positions.
Imo it might be much better if we play Dalot as a RM and AWB as RB. At least Dalot can cross a bit. And we will be better defensively.
Selling him for even 5m would be a monumental success.
any winger with pace would absolutely destroy him though.
He wasn't bad, but nowhere near a key player. His stats weren't special, his play was fun to watch most of the time but barely effective.
Indeed. I get it it's more difficult for wingers than fullbacks attacking, but Dalot actually is quite quick and can cross, so that should be enough to put him ahead of Antony.
One position we seem to have covered is RB so let's make use of that.
Younger, do you mean when he was 5, or an infant?
I feel for him. He just lacks the physical attributes to succeed as a winger in the prem. So many times it looks like he's going to be played through with space or take on the fullback and everytime the defender catches up with him easily. Even Thiago Silva at 39 outpaced him
Well, age is only a number - Giggs at 39 could still run defenders half his age ragged when he had the energy and will to do so.
Thiago Silva at 39 is still no slouch, but I do get what you're saying, but sometimes I feel that he gives up just as a much as he actually loses a foot race.
He's too slow and weak. He will do better in a less intense league, Premier League isn't for him.
There is the same feeling. Memphis scored a lot of goals in lesser leagues, but when you actually watched the goals, many of said goals would have been saved by PL goalies. Surprise, surprise, when he played in the PL, the goalies did save those...
Also, being physical and fast in some leagues is different - one thing is the speed of players where especially defenders in the PL are very athletic, but the speed of the game is just on another level.
Dalot has improved his speed a lot in the last year or two - dedicated training can work wonders. Not sure how Antony will improve, but even his running looks a little off. That said, there are wingers slower than him that are great. Mahrez was never particularly fast. Bernardo Silva isn't fast. Is Antony much slower than Foden? Saka isn't particularly fast. The trouble is that Antony offers nothing in terms of playmaking. Therefore, him being unable to beat a man on a consistent basis means that he really offers nothing...
Worth also mentioning that Ten Hag also worked with Kudus during this same period. The same Kudus who went to West Ham for less than half of what Antony cost and is about thrice the player. One of the reasons why I personally have no faith in Ten Hag. It’s absolutely criminal what he’s done with this acquisition.
Dalot. Ronaldo. Greenwood. All of them became considerably faster at United. I'd put Nani in there as well. Maybe I'm missing an obvious one as well? Rashford became faster than his breakout season, but now he doesn't run anymore, so who knows.
Exactly what I've thought. Convinced it would be better.
Agree. And the whole point of an inverted winger is he can cut in and shoot with his stronger foot. Which Antony is also crap at. Tbh I can't even remember a single moment where he even remotely threat the opponent keeper in the last months. He used to try that a lot but his shooting is simply too weak to beat the PL keepers who all are very tall and have excellent reflex. If it can hit the target. Big if.
Anyway good thing he has cut that shit off recently. Used to do my head when he tried that and hit the stand. But there is no point to play an inverted winger if he can't dribble past a defender, can't cut in and shoot, can't cross. Even his passing is quite crap. Dalot is actually faster, a better passer and can cross a bit. And obviously much better defensively.
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