Average at what? Some of his crosses were poor but in general he was doing well. And quality delivery isnt the reason why Valencia should come on anymore. That ship has sailed.
Antonio Valencia | 2013/14 Performances
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Average at what? Some of his crosses were poor but in general he was doing well. And quality delivery isnt the reason why Valencia should come on anymore. That ship has sailed.
Average in that he couldn't dribble or run past average players like Riise. Some of his crosses were poor, and I don't think he was as adventurous as he normally is. Valencia hardly produces quality crosses, but he has shown that he can offer a threat when facing tired players due to his physical attributes. Let me add that I think Rafael is the superior player.
I thought he did pretty well even though some of the crosses were poor. Valencia is a defensive liability at rB. Already cost us 2 goals this season.
Slate Valencia as much as you want, but you can't deny that he's trying for us. Some of give off the illusion that he just doesn't care anymore and isn't half-arsed with his performance or our results. He's a much better player than what his current performances are reflecting - we all know that.
The usually non-animated Valencia after Carrick scored:
He works hard at trying the wrong things. When he was good he worked hard at trying the right things. And it didnt hurt that he had a decent cross
I think Chicharito at his worst had more good first touches in one half.
Thought he was one of our best players tonight, good run from him.
I'm starting to think we ought to just try and convert him into a full-on right back.
A waste of space one clearance off the line doesn't change that. Offers absolutely zero offensively.
Certainly in that second half. Don't know why he was taken off because he was probably the best of our front four.
Did he run at the fullback once?
He's so poor yet gets played. Moyes is clueless
He saved our point today, get fecking off him and go complain about Van Persie bottling it and Rooney being shite.
Fergie must have been clueless as well then.
He's actually a poor mans Park now. At least with Park even when his legs were going he could slot in however was best for the better players around him. Valencia actually inhibits how others can play because of his one footed-ness/hesitantcy. He's got two strengths pace and power and he rarely ever uses them.
If you want to win a game of football, one thing you don't do is play Antonio Valencia.
Like playing a fullback at the wing. He is hurting our game/general play so bad.
Offers nothing going forward. Pointless him playing as a winger.
For being set up to stand on the post? We could have won if he had some balls and actually tried to attack. Broke down a lot of attacks and his touch was rotten. Oh, he worked hard. I guess that's ok.
Now this sort of criticism is dumb. Out of all of our forward players he pretty much offered the most, yet the fans are pouring in here to say he's shit. Unbelievable stuff considering he saved us going a goal down.
He is just soul destroying.
Won the ball back plenty. Ran forward a bit. Not a threat.
Shouldnt it be the smaller sides playing defensive wingers worrying about the opposition
Shouldnt it be the smaller sides playing defensive wingers worrying about the opposition
We've had couple of players who were set at the posts and yet couldn't save simple balls several times, he's done 'well' today by his standards. Offered as much if not more as our magic trio of Mata, Rooney and RVP and then Januzaj.
Absolutely not the match to criticise him after. Agenda at it's finest.
Couldn't believe a couple of times it fell for him nicely to turn and attack if he had any awareness whatsoever of the space he had, only for him to pass straight back to the fullback under pressure
I'm just getting sick of his one dimensional and predictable play, it is soo pissing me off now!!!
If theres no man standing there the keeper can dive.
Was his usual average self. Nothing more or less really.
He plays with such a lack of confidence, its a shame, he is a shadow of the player he used to be. We should have sold him when he asked to change squad numbers, not that the numbers matter but he saw himself as not being good enough, we need players who relish the challenge. Now more than ever.
He's not good enough. That much is obvious. He continues to play though so guess we'll all just have to accept it.
It was already past DDG.
Going forward he did nothing, same with on the ball. So many times he had a chance to do some quick passes going forward but he just chose to do a little pass back or slow it down. Defensively he did well, although to be perfectly honest, Arsenal didn't try to do anything other then try to force their way through the middle. They were a bit like the opposite of us against Fulham.
I just wish he'd try to do more going forward, like he used to, since we might as well get used to seeing him in the team.
I just wish he'd try to do more going forward, like he used to, since we might as well get used to seeing him in the team.
He didnt move because there's a 6 foot tank standing next to him. He dives and they both get hurt and probably conceed
To be fair, Januzaj looked a bit lost both defensively and offensively when he did come on. Admittedly, he didn't have much time to settle, but I guess Moyes prefers an average Valencia to an unpredictable Januzaj.
No, it was already past him and he wouldn't have the time to react.
He didnt react because Antonio Valencia is there
Every time we had the ball we played to the other side of the pitch when Januzaj came on. He moved left, we played down the right, he moved right, we played it to Young. Was disappointing.
He didn't react because he had no time to do it.
Are you afraid of giving Valencia some credit ?
I honestly expect him to one day get to the touchline and pass it back to DDG.
That's because Young was coming deep and showing for it to be played short. Whenever Smalling had the ball Januzaj was nowhere to be seen and at one point Smalling tried a ball over the top to find him.
I thought he did fine as a workhorse, added nothing in attack as usual these days though.
I've given him some, I'm not going to pretend David De Gea wouldnt have dived to try and save a header almost a foot inside his post if Antonio Valencia wasnt there. De Gea has excellent reactions as we saw tonight, but when theres a brick shithouse standing next to you only a lunatic will dive at it headfirst.
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