Seriously?
I don't get why new members especially make posts like this. Should be banned from the transfer forum unless they can reveal where the source is from. @Acquire Me atleast told us he had sources via Adidas.
Antoine Griezmann
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Seriously?
I don't get why new members especially make posts like this. Should be banned from the transfer forum unless they can reveal where the source is from. @Acquire Me atleast told us he had sources via Adidas.
Slow off the mark. Can't dribble, weak and small but gets into good positions in the final third. That's what I think of him. Though I haven't seen much of him abut I have never been eempressed. Wouldn't be too pleased if he's the mega signing of the summer.
The more I hear about him the more I think of Mata.
What you think of him would be incorrect then. He's not the best dribbler but he's more than capable. He is one of the best in the world at movement off the ball and his link up play is highly underrated.
The fact that people are turning their noses up at one of the world's best players - who is literally the only creative force in a defensive team who are one of the best in the world is baffling. There's a reason Atleti were looking poor earlier on in the season when Griezmann wasn't playing well. He's gotten back into form and they look a rejuvenated side. This guy has gotten Atleti to CL finals with crucial goals against the World's best teams. He scores goals and a feckload at that, that's what we need.
There isn't a better player in the world at working in pockets of space imo. He doesn't have the physicality of Ronaldo, the talent of a Messi or Neymar, but his use of space is second to none.
If he comes here and performs to the standards he is at Atleti, he'd be a phenomenal signing.
Might as well say that you have never seen him play because that's a completely inaccurate description. Griezmann is neither slow or a bad dribbler. He's not the fastest but uses his pace & movement in a clever way. His dribbling is fine and he's capable of beating defenders (did that at Real Sociedad). He doesn't have a big frame but he's an excellent header of the ball. His linkup play is also great and he puts in a shift defensively. All that while being one of the best finishers in world football right now. If he didn't play in such a defensive team like Atletico, he'd be scoring 40+ goals a season.
I am looking forward to see him play for us
The man himself. I've been waiting for your seal of approval
He won't even tell me, don't take it as gospel but I'll quote this at the end of the transfer window.
I trust him but he doesn't work for United or Adidas, but he certainly knows people who does. He was basically celebrating in early 2016 that we were bringing in jose.
Hmm i perhaps wouldn't comment until you watch him more regularly. He definatley isn't slow off the mark.
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So you're ill informed and spouting rubbish then?
He's a capable dribbler, accelerates well past players and makes very intelligent runs with and without the ball.
As for the weak and small comment he scores enough headers and holds his own well enough for me to say confidently if he comes to the PL he will do well.
If you watch him regularly for Atletico (something I have done) you'll see why he was voted 3rd in the Ballon D'Or.
There is something about Lukaku for me.
Griezmann is hands down the better player in some obvious ways but I look at Lukaku, look at our league; and I think come the boys prime he can turn to be a real handful and I mean in a way Griezmann can't. In my eyes Griezmann will give us something that plenty other teams have - a fast technical forward that will one day be outshone by another fast technical forward. Considering Jose clearly likes physical strikers - a dominant, fast paced, physical striker with the ability to pull of some assists- don't really come around that often, especially one who is this young and had countless good scoring seasons.
Griezmann is hands down the better player in some obvious ways but I look at Lukaku, look at our league; and I think come the boys prime he can turn to be a real handful and I mean in a way Griezmann can't. In my eyes Griezmann will give us something that plenty other teams have - a fast technical forward that will one day be outshone by another fast technical forward. Considering Jose clearly likes physical strikers - a dominant, fast paced, physical striker with the ability to pull of some assists- don't really come around that often, especially one who is this young and had countless good scoring seasons.
The thing is we already have an emerging Lukaku type in Rashford. Griezmann brings a lot more variety to the table.
Rashford isn't a Lukaku type. They're completely different players.
The day when @Acquire Me confirms a non obvious transfer I will give him some credence.
I agree with this, not only is he a fantastic goalscorer he most definitely isn't one dimensional, people forget just before Atletico he was a winger, he can definitely dribble. One thing I don't hear people say about him much is the effort he puts in on the defensive side, Jose definitely appreciates his attackers putting in a shift in defence.
I second that.
So basically if united sign weigl ? because he has mentioned his name aswell.
Nah. Being confident about it.
He will eventually become a Lukaku type as he continues to develop. I'd rather buy Griezmann and bring back Hernandez or buy Morata than go for Lukaku.
There's something about Lukakku to me that screams "will be found out at the highest level". To be honest that's also the way I feel about Kane. They're both good premier league strikers, but I feel like when you're in a CL semifinal against Bayern and you need someone to produce that moment of absolute top class genius to win the game, I feel like these two players wouldn't be able to deliver.
I may very well be wrong, but I can't shake that feeling and that's why I would rather we steer clear of Lukakku (And the Ryan Gosling of North London)
Also the quintessential Mourinho striker that I assume people always allude to when they mention strong and pacy is Drogba, but Drogba was far from a simple battering ram. He was very good technically as well, very capable of beating his man, linking up well and producing special moments of individual excellence. In Madrid it was Benzema, in Inter it was Ibra then Milito. All of these guys, in my opinion, with the exception of probably Milito, had more to their game than Lukakku.
If United sign both Griezmann and Weigl this summer, I'll also believe in Acquire me, as he was surely first to mention Weigl.
Morata is the Spanish Welbeck.
Lukaku is more of a Drogba type. Rashford is more a Michael Owen type.
That is a lot of mismatches.
I already mentioned I haven't seen much of him. No need to resort to insults.
He doesn't have anywhere near Drogbas technical ability. He's more of a Benteke type to be more accurate.
Jaybomb is having a mare in here.
Drogba was really good at holding up the ball, I wouldnt say the same about Lukaku
Lukaku is great at holding up the ball and he is only 23 years old.
He really isn't anywhere near great at holding the ball up. He would be a very good signing for us but great at holding the ball up (he can be poor) watch videos of players like Mark Hughes from the past where central defenders could come through you and he would still hold it up (that's great) not Lukaku who regularly miss controls the ball and surrenders possession. I do like him though he is deadly in and around the box and would virtually guarantee us 20-30+ goals a season.
That's harsh on Lukaku. He's probably about midway between the two of them.
Because he sort of is that type of player. Absolute menace in the final third who can rack up goals and assists down to his excellent movement. He obviously has the pluses over Mata that he is quicker, stronger, and surprisingly decent in the air for his size. He's also gained a knack of scoring key goals in a few 1-0 wins for Atletico this season.
So, I don't want to sound like a negative nancy, but is he just a slightly better Mata? Is that what the side needs?
I am not criticising him btw, I haven't seen anywhere near enough of him to comment with authority.
Well it also mean we'll have another major goal threat, and someone to share the burden of score enough goals to win titles. Lukaku is a good player, but unless our wingers start playing like real wingers, Lukaku isn't going to get much chance to score.
Oh yeah I agree, I want nothing to do with Lukaku, he just strikes me as someone who lacks the football intelligence needed for United.
He's more of a Raúl González - Thomas Müller hybrid, IMO - quite different from what Mata is. Quicker and stronger from an athletic perspective, a mix between support striker and center forward, better at the point of attack, and a very prolific scorer (his numbers stack up really well against both Raúl and Müller - 90 in a 3 year peak for Raúl vs 89 in a 3 year peak for Müller vs 82 in a 3 year peak for Griezmann - who could add to the tally in La Liga and the Champions League). You could argue that's exactly what the current United team needs - his less than ideal fit with Pogba now-withstanding.
Indeed, that would be an impressive prediction and I would bow down to him and I would have failed big time. Weigl moving to United this summer surely wont happen though..no chance.
If you'd read the forum rules, you'd know that any poster claiming to be "in the know" will be assumed to be lying if they can't provide evidence. I couldn't care less if we sign him and you go "see, I was right all along", because most will still assume you're full of it.
He's far better than Mata. I'd go as far as saying Antoine is the best player in the world not at Madrid or Barca. His use of space, working of the channels and movement is some of the best in the game, if not the best. He gets one chance, he scores. Composed as feck, is good on the ball and can bring others into play. Not to add, having played under Simeone he will help out in defence etc. which Jose will take a liking too.
Doesn't really do fancy tricks or dribble 15 players but he doesn't really need to. He is almost always in the right spot to put the ball in the net.
1) As stated, the kid is still 23 years old;thus, I don't think its fair to start using guys like Mark Hughes and Diddier Drogba as a barometer of Lukaku's hold up play. We always recognize Zlatan as aplayer who holds the ball up well and has good ball control, yet compared to the Lukaku there is only a .1 difference as to who loseses the ball due to bad control. Lukaku isn't the same player he was two years ago and has continued to make improvements in all the aspects of his game. Imagine what he could be like in his prime.
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