Antoine Griezmann
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Yes that's true. Looks like whether we get CL next season is key in this transfer.
I remember reading a long ass article explaining the complications relating to release clauses. I don't remember all the details but remember the article listing the amount a club will go through to try and avoid the situation. Release clauses can of course be triggered, but it's only ever done if the club rejects official transfer bids.
I actually think clubs are happy to pay more than the release clause at times as long as the offer is officially accepted by the owning club. This is because it avoids having to go through legal proceedings if the owning clubs refuses to sell via the usual transfer process. The process of purchasing a player via triggering their release clause is seriously complex which is why it rarely happens, and in cases that they are triggered, I think it may be to the financial detriment of the player as well as the club.
I don't understand, why talk about a concrete interest if he wants to come? Obviously, he wants to let the other clubs know that United did a move and they are welcome to pay more, which would probably mean he's not coming at the end.
I am torn on this one.
I am torn on this one.
That's his release clause. Wtf is opening bid?
Don't think this is always the case.
Apparently they changed the rules to make the release clause easier to trigger or something
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.ci...-could-make-buying-liga-manchester-united/amp
I don't know mate. Don't flame thrower the messenger
. I heard it on talk sport this morning.I think the issue is that most release clauses require the buyer to pay the entire amount upfront whereas in a "normal" transfer the fee is paid with instalments.
Woody is so good to us muppets, the absolute joy every transfer season brings us compared to the likes of Liverpool who has to settle for Whatever Mcwatheverface each summer
You're right. Not only from his point of view but also whether we like to believe it or not, losing CL has a sizable hit on our revenue. CL qualification will decide if our net spend in the summer is 100m or 150m in my opinion.
Yeah but Pogba was like 300 million larr and what's his face is just as good.Woody is so good to us muppets, the absolute joy every transfer season brings us compared to the likes of Liverpool who has to settle for Whatever Mcwatheverface each summer
I think IF Atletico wins CL Griezmann will sign for us if we are in CL. He won't go from Champion to Europa League but I suspect if they fall just short again but are given the green light from FIFA to sign again I think he will fancy one more crack with Atletico. The man has options and knows we along with more options will come back next summer.
That's very interesting. That would mean, in theory, the transfer fee for Griezmann would be exactly €85m, which in today's market is a bargain for such a player.
Yeah that is where I am at with this deal at the moment as well. CL and he is bang on ours if we want him, no CL and it all becomes a bit more iffy.
I'll take it, but I'd like a confirmation from @Acquire Me as well
I am looking forward to see him play for us
Brand recognition. Do something simple that's associated with you. For a footballer that frequently scores goals a celebration is a sure thing. Nani does his flip, Raúl kissed his wedding ring, Bale does that heart thing, Ronaldo super saiyans.
Good enough for meI am looking forward to see him play for us
Where do I get my Griezzeh 7 shirt?
That would be so typical of our Ed.
''Mr. Woodward, the release clause for our player is £85m.''
Ed to the club secretary ''Send an OPENING bid of £85m''
That's right, I think the Adidas deal will be cut by 30% if we don't make CL this season.
It's perfect! No need to negotiate anything at that price!
That would be so typical of our Ed.
''Mr. Woodward, the release clause for our player is £85m.''
Ed to the club secretary ''Send an OPENING bid of £85m''
This gonna be a long summer.
So much smoke regarding this transfer that it's hard to believe it won't happen.
The only thing is, with the transfer ban, I can only see this deal going through if the full 85m is paid in full, which is a large sum in one go.
I could be wrong, but I would even say the Pogba deal would be paid in instalments
The only thing is, with the transfer ban, I can only see this deal going through if the full 85m is paid in full, which is a large sum in one go.
I could be wrong, but I would even say the Pogba deal would be paid in instalments
I find 85m being paid without instalments extremely hard to believe. Don't you think there would be conditions and clauses attached to specific figures. For example, We pay 10m if he wins ballon d'or. 15m if he scores 20 goals and 60m as the actual fee, or wouldn't that work with the buyout clause?
I am only going off Football Manager here, but I'd say that a buyout has to be paid in full.
If there was a lot of leverage on how it could be paid I think a lot more buyout clauses would be activated with stupid clauses.
I think it has to be paid in full and at once, if we want to trigger the clause. Of course, we could negotiate a mutually beneficial deal with Atlético matching the clause (or a little bit above it to sweeten the deal for them) and pay that in installments, or insert conditions to be fulfilled, but that would just be a regular bid being accepted and not a triggering of the release clause.
If we could put conditions into the triggering of the release clause, we could say that we'll give you £85m but not until 2050, at which point £85m might not be very much.
Buy out clauses are rarely triggered, clubs tend to agree on a transfer that matches the clause and in that case installments are used like it is usually.
But the good news on this is - if you can call it good news - if we do miss out on the Champions League this year, we will indeed miss out on 30% of the adidas deal. But I assumed it was 30% of £750m that we would not be paid, but it is only (ha - only) 30% of the £75m from next year (for not qualifying) that won't be paid - so basically £22.5m. 1/20th of our annual income.
It's not as big a hit as I thought it was.
But, it's not about the money. I would be devastated if we miss out on CL because I feel Mourinho is a CL/PL manager. The amount of times he has handled both to almost-perfection is staggering. He has won EIGHT league titles in 14 seasons as a manager (12 full seasons) and been in the semi-finals of the Champions League SEVEN times in 11 seasons as a CL manager. Those are some Ferguson-ass like stats, and probably then some.
He is gearing up, in my genuine opinion - us for domestic and European glory. I've no doubt about that. But we gotta get back in the CL next season. If we are still in the Europa next season then our EPL form and title chances become tougher. For me, it's CL next season and we balance the whole season perfectly where we could genuinely just turn back into being one of Europe's elite or it's Europa next season and a very tough balance and we fail to fight for an EPL title challenge.
Qualifying for the CL next seasons quickens the process for the club to get to the level us fans are all dying for us to get to.
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I bet that Woody would be able to do something on that penalty if we have been performing well for Adidas commercially.
If Jose wants a player and he's within reach, Ed will get it for him. And Ed certainly doesn't feck about cos he's a muppet himself!
Friend of mine who has sources says it's happening and he was right about all transfers last summer including Bailly who I certainly had never heard of before we signed him.
That's fantastic news re: the finances! Do you have a source?
Apart from CL football, the most important thing IMO will be convincing him that we are just shy of being the top dogs in England and he is the player to make the difference. I don't think it's going to be enough (although I could be wrong) to say he's going to be part of a project which will take 3-4 years, he needs to come in and make an instant impact. Thankfully, he is actually good enough to do so. Wages and stuff should be a formality. It also depends a lot on the player and his ambitions of course, but it will help if he feels he's coming to a team with top players such as Pogba, Mkhi and hopefully Ibra alongside any other signings we might make.
Ok, well it's not as bad as I thought. Agreed, if we make top 4 this season, at least we can see a progression relative to our competition as well. We're in the running for both top 4 and winning the Europa league, so hopefully we can achieve at least one of them and qualify.
Woody is so good to us muppets, the absolute joy every transfer season brings us compared to the likes of Liverpool who has to settle for Whatever Mcwatheverface each summer
I am looking forward to see him play for us
GriezmON
Will be signing. I have a good feeling.
Good to see your opinion is still consistent with yesterday's post
Could have in this case. Aren't Spanish release clauses complicated in that they require the player to pay it out and it all gets a bit complicated? Might have just made a direct 'bid' that matches the release clause to avoid all the complications and hassles.
Madrid paid us £80m in one lump sum for Ronaldo.
I think the rules around them changed to make the process simpler, but I'm not 100% sure. I do know there's no way you'd make an opening bid at the amount of a clause though, it would just be unimaginably dumb.
Release clauses in UK contracts usually just say that if a transfer fee of £X is offered then the club will allow the player to negotiate with the offering club for a move. Sometimes they are more specific as to which clubs they relate to, for example the offer must come from a club playing in the CL.
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