This needs to happen. Our team really needs a finisher like him
Antoine Griezmann
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This needs to happen. Our team really needs a finisher like him
With these articles what I don't understand is there's no way for journos to know this unless they're tapping phones, yet fans still lap it up.
It strikes me that with all that comes with a signing of this size: many millions in the transfer, a high salary, a project for the best years of his career, sponsorships, etc ... he keeps insisting on the (childish) idea of bad weather, which he has apparently already repeated in several interviews.
Sorry for being pessimistic but it smells bad to me. It could be thought that to respect Atlético he avoids the subject, but then "Madrid or Barça? why not? ".
Maybe it's silly (this summer I'm quite anxious for signings) but I think he's waiting for Madrid.
Sorry for being pessimistic but it smells bad to me. It could be thought that to respect Atlético he avoids the subject, but then "Madrid or Barça? why not? ".
Maybe it's silly (this summer I'm quite anxious for signings) but I think he's waiting for Madrid.
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I thought Madrid didn't buy players from Atletico or something like that
It is a modern agreement, difficult to break but not impossible. There have been many cases of players in the two teams, Hugo Sánchez, Reyes, Solari, Juanfran, Jurado, Schuster ..
Could already be a done deal. Weather and lifestyle fears are diversion tactics as to muddy the waters until the summer. He's a professional athlete for Christ's sake, he's not exactly moving to the harsh Russian winter if he came to us.
You'd swear he's being asked to spend the rest of eternity in the North Pole. This deal makes so much sense for both parties, I will be truly astonished if he's not donning our number 7 jersey next season.
Why did they make the agreement?
Edit - Googled and found this. I don't really see why Real Madrid would make that kind of pact
I guess it's just to maintain good relationships between clubs, and avoid signings from academy players. The majority of cases are from Atletico to Madrid, except Saúl.
It would be very easy for Atletico to start poaching young players from Real if they believe that they don't stand a chance getting in ahead of Ronaldo etc. At least that's how Balague explained it a while back.
I may be wrong but the weather in Bavaria during the winter months isn't great either?
To me it reads like he's already agreed to join United and every time it crops up in an interview he's trying to downplay it by talking about something stupid like bad weather. Almost like his way of saying 'can you change the subject please, I can't talk about this right now?!'
Then when he's asked about a club he knows he's not joining, like Real Madrid or Barca, the response is 'yeah sure, why not?!'
Either that, or he's just trying his best to get the best possible deal out of us?
For me it has a bit of De Gea transfer to us feel about it. There was a lot of speculation before the end of the season etc, then Ballbag broke the story on Revista La Liga. Sir Alex confirmed it after a game iirc. It just feels like the deal is in place.
Just a hunch, and maybe I'm reading into things, but it feels like the deal was done a while ago. Not only that, but the way Jose recently said that our summer transfers will take us to another level, feels like more than one deal is already done.
I will be surprised if we don't sign him. He has all the qualities we need in the final 3rd and also could be turned into a huge commercial brand like Pogba, who is also his best buddy.
Then again, I thought we had Vidal in the bag. These are different times and I can see more people willing to jump on the Mourinho Express than the previous train.
Then again, I thought we had Vidal in the bag. These are different times and I can see more people willing to jump on the Mourinho Express than the previous train.
They just put two and two together. Griezmann has concern about weather. Pogba is here. He's Griezmann's friend. Mourinho wants Griezmann, so Pogba should tell Griezmann the weather's fine.
A complete guesswork really, one that I can do it myself.
I don't understand why people are so sure of this all of a sudden. This time last year the sentiment seemed to be that it would be very difficult to pull off this transfer- what has changed now?
If we were guaranteed UCL I could understand it a bit more, but we're no where near that stage. Granted, it feels like we have a decent chance but I'm by no means confident it will happen.
If we were guaranteed UCL I could understand it a bit more, but we're no where near that stage. Granted, it feels like we have a decent chance but I'm by no means confident it will happen.
People have gained in confidence after signing Pogba.
This needs to happen. It just needs to.
Good point. I have too but it still seems rather arbitrary given we don't know for sure if Mourinho is interested or indeed if Griezmann is either.
Still have no idea where he plays, and if Zlatan stays on then one of Mkhi or Martial are out in the cold again. At least we'll be good on the next FIFA
This is simply a case of growing attached to our current players. It's the same every year and it's completely understandable. You love the players who play for us (as I do) and it blinds you to seeing that Griezmann is far and away a better player than both Mkhitaryan and Martial. Both of whom are exceptional and potentially exceptional players respectively too. The thought of them being benched is tough at the moment, but if Griezmann was currently a United player and you were picking a team, he'd be on there well before those two.
Well, depends, if you like snow it's great.
All this weather discussion is ridicoulous. Moaning about rain
. You always got the most rain in maritime climate (Spain, France, Italy, England, Northern Germany), less in mid-continent areas like (southern) Germany, Czech Republic, Austria, Slovenia..and even less in so called continental climate like Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan. If he doesn't like rain he should go to Xinjiang around the Gobi desert.All this talk about bad English weather is just rubbish by uninformed people. It's not as if you could sunbath all day as a footballer anyway.
Well, depends, if you like snow it's great.
All this weather discussion is ridicoulous. Moaning about rain
All this talk about bad English weather is just rubbish by uninformed people. It's not as if you could sunbath all day as a footballer anyway.
Weather isn't just about rain.
Madrid and Manchester are incomparable in terms of predictable climate. The key part being predictable.
It would matter to me. Especially if I'm considering leaving one club to take a step down. (We are currently a step down. It's not up for debate).
A step down from Aletico, you're having a laugh?
No. Nor am I trolling. I'd back us to win more than Athletico over the next 5 years. But not over the next 2.
I'm realistic. Not a step down as a club. But as a prospect of winning a league or CL title.
What's wrong with that? We're not even in the champions league right now, of course it's a step down. Griezmann is 26, I wouldn't blame him at all for weighing up the short term prospects of each club rather than looking to the long term.
Exactly. This sort of work shouldn't be counted as jounalism. Absolute farce
These types of 'reports' really piss me off. Hypothetically, if at all there is some truth in these stories, I would love to look elsewhere because playing for Manchester United is a big enough reason to move. If he is really that concerned with the weather, he can stay in Spain. As Jose said, he needs warriors on the field and if the supposed warrior is hesitant over weather, fine. We need a RVP type signing. He wanted to play for us, he wanted to play for Fergie, and he loved banging goals for us week in week out.
Of course all these stories sound bullshit and AG7 might be keeping a low profile because everything points towards a summer transfer to Man Utd.
Of course all these stories sound bullshit and AG7 might be keeping a low profile because everything points towards a summer transfer to Man Utd.
This rumour actually has more legs than some of the other random links to elite players since the player himself seems to be a United fan. From a sporting perspective, I'd agree that it unquestionably has to be viewed as a step down - Atletico have been better than United for at least 5 seasons now by any football metric. That reason alone might be enough to dissuade a player like him who has come close to the biggest trophies as he has probably paid attention to others who have made, at best, lateral moves
But on a personal level, perhaps United represents a dream and Pogba a great partnership to forge going forward - like I say, this rumour seems the most plausible to materialize
But on a personal level, perhaps United represents a dream and Pogba a great partnership to forge going forward - like I say, this rumour seems the most plausible to materialize
For all we know he could be using the weather to kill speculation until the end of the season.
Just relax and we will see what happens in the summer. I have a feeling all this talk about weather will quickly disappear.
Just relax and we will see what happens in the summer. I have a feeling all this talk about weather will quickly disappear.
Griezmann is playing with players with better technical ability at our club for starters. He gets a lot wider audience as well, more popularity. Our club is watched by multiple times the people then Atletico. So definitely not a step down. It's not everything about current form.
That's a fact.
When my opinion comes into play, i am very confident that we have more success the next 2 years then Atletico both on national and international level. But that's just what i think, we'll see who was right in 2,2 years. What matters is what Griezmann thinks
He hasn't won anything with Atletico and it's only down to Antoine that they're even in 4th place in La Liga and now they're even getting regularly schooled by Real and Barca.
If Griezmann stays its down to his love of Atletico, it can't be down to thinking Atletico are better placed to win the top honours as he enters his prime. Especially with Simeone leaving the club in the near future.
If Griezmann is being told about our future plans, maybe we're signing him and Mbappe for example, then it's hard not to think we would be challenging for honours in a season or two. Add him to our signings and it's not hard to view United as a very ambitious club.
Just show him a dvd of our performances this season and ask him where he think we would be if we had him playing behind Ibra all year. It's that simple imo.
They've done better in the league and in Europe than United since he's been there and even won the Europa league twice before Griezmann arrived
Simeone's formula has been working consistently since his arrival so by what footballing metric has United been better over the last 5 seasons?
As I said, if it's money then a move away always can help, esp. to the Premiership. Just because you sign a lot of players and spend on talent, does not translate to sporting success - again, look back how much Atletico has spent & United over the past 5 seasons and see who has had more sporting success
Don't overlook the reality that Antoine has been playing in Spain for 12 seasons - suits his game quite well
The thing is about future. Simeone leaving would be a blow to Athletico, while us can be building something promising. Simeone still hasn't committed his future to the club
You know, just like how Ronaldo wanted to join Real Madrid when Real Madrid was in a limbo in CL, and Barcelona started a new dominant period. We were a stronger team than Real Madrid for few years before Ronaldo left. He just wanted to be part of Galaticos version 2 to rival even that Barcelona knowing SAF wouldn't go into that path even though we can financially back him.
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The weather thing is bollocks. A complete decoy to what is the most obvious signing this summer 
Think about it. He is a 26 year old man who is at his peak and is well into his career as a professional footballer. Do you really think a milder, wetter climate is going to put him off moving to a club like United where he will become one of Europe's top earners and in doing so earn at least 60million gbp for just 5 years service, let's say. He has from around 35 years of age until death to enjoy the sun in his flip-flops.
Also, does anyone have him on snapchat? I do and he seems like a massive wum, always joking about. He's played a blinder with this weather nonsense.
I do think the champions league qualification is a major factor in his decision though.
Think about it. He is a 26 year old man who is at his peak and is well into his career as a professional footballer. Do you really think a milder, wetter climate is going to put him off moving to a club like United where he will become one of Europe's top earners and in doing so earn at least 60million gbp for just 5 years service, let's say. He has from around 35 years of age until death to enjoy the sun in his flip-flops.
Also, does anyone have him on snapchat? I do and he seems like a massive wum, always joking about. He's played a blinder with this weather nonsense.
I do think the champions league qualification is a major factor in his decision though.
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