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Antoine Griezmann
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I'll continue to say it...
I think he will be a United player next season.
I think he will be a United player next season.
I really want Griezmann so sorry I am ignoring your negativity
I really want Griezmann so sorry I am ignoring your negativity
Oh I'm not negative on him, I said in my first post on the tweet that my comments were only if he's took this stance, as a player he'd be a class addition.
Why would he be long term? What is long term? He's 26 and in his prime. I've heard the argument a few years ago about how 'players wouldn't pass up United just because they will be out of the CL for one season'. Then one season changed to another, and here we are again in 5th with just over a month to go. How many years at the top do you think a player has? You make the call you are suggesting at 19 perhaps, it not necessarily at 26.
We signed Pogba and Mkhitarayan while out of the CL, Chelsea signed Kante while out of the CL as well, all I am saying is that a player who looks only at where a team is that one season is not one with the mentality I'd want at United, the fact is any player coming to a top PL team these days has no guarentees of playing CL football, who'd have thought both us and Chelsea would be out of the spots just 5 years ago? The depth in that top 6 means any player signing for one of us is taking a risk.
At least we got HIV.
Herrera, Ibra, Valencia.
And a Rash
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Griezmann is far superior to all those players you mentioned. We're talking about one of the worlds established elite, it's only understandable he will have his doubts about a team that struggles to qualify for the best competition in world football.
Elite players want to try and win elite trophies, not help a team get over its ttransition phase that has been going on for like 6 years now.
My point is, missing out on the CL 3 times out of 4, if it happens this season, is much more of a red flag than you are portraying. I can understand a genuine superstar to have reservations, especially at this stage in their career.
Kante left Leicester City. Mkhitaryan was also at a second tier team. Pogba was returning home, and only 23 anyway, and would quite possibly be in Madrid by the time he is Griezmann's age if we continued to struggle.
Dortmund a 2nd tier team?
A second tier club, yes. Any player who passes his audition there, having joined (always) from a club of smaller stature, will certainly move to a club that is in a higher tier. Manchester United is one of such clubs, as evidenced by us taking two of their best performers in recent years.
What about Reus, Sokratis? They cant keep their best players that's true, but they've been performing well so long, also in Europe beating the likes of Real, City it seems a bit harsh on them. They have a fantastic squad, fantastic stadium, fantastic fans, world class players and potential world class players, they might not have the status and money other clubs do, but seems a bit harsh.
If Reus wasn't such a crock someone would have snapped him up already. No point investing in someone who can't stay fit to save his life though. Fantastic fans...so fantastic they boo Werner when he plays for the German national team. Very well done. They are second tier there can be absolutely no doubt about it
Nah think it's fair. In my eyes there are only four clubs in the highest tier; RM, Barca, Bayern and United. I think every player would want to play at one of these four clubs. Same can't be said about any other club because their best players always leave.
I don't think Griezmann is worth what we'd have to pay for him.
If he comes awesome, but I think we could spend the money wiser. It also rules out a three man midfield unless you play him out of position out wide.
If he comes awesome, but I think we could spend the money wiser. It also rules out a three man midfield unless you play him out of position out wide.
A midfield 3 is not necessarily the way to go if you can't score goals. He is needed for the goals.
We are 5th with two games in hand. If we win both games we will be 3rd.
Got quite a tough run in though
I don't get why people are so fixed on transfer sums. They aren't really that important. What matters are the wages and if we get BFS and Rooney off our books there are plenty of money to get a high profile player.
Just look at Barca. Their wages keeps them from buying anyone and it's not because they can't finance the transfer sum they just can't add anything more to their total wages.
Add to that Zlatan will be off our books after next season as well.
Nah its Possible to play a 3 man midfield with him Long term, Also i think Martial should be freed of defensive duties and played as a striker because his skills are more suited to in the box and his finishing is very sharp.
-----Martial-----Griezman----
---------------Mkh-----------
-------Pogba--------Herrera----
-------------Fabinho-------
A 4312 or a 442 diamond as its called will get the best out of every player including Pogba and MkH and Martial and Griezman, and as we will play the Mix of POsession based and Counter attacking game Both martial And Griezman can drop Wider and Launch counter attacks Cutting inside With a Catalyst Pass from Fabinho or Pogba.
We can also play mata at cam if we need more creativity and attacking intent and Play Mkh at herrera's position to inject more pace and energy and creativity like a Coutinho role .
Faster players up top ensures we can press high against teams who playout from the back like liverpool or city and also play direct counter attacking game in Posession to stretch the defense nd score more goals , With proper midfield balance
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Personally I think the best way to use him - IF there was any chance to get him of course - would be:
----------Rash--------
Martial---Griez---Mkhi
He is very strong when playing behind a quick "target man" upfront as his passes into gaps are just pure class. Also those four could rotate in positions, thus, causing huge trouble for every defense - like Ronnie, Wazza and Tevez did in the good old times..
----------Rash--------
Martial---Griez---Mkhi
He is very strong when playing behind a quick "target man" upfront as his passes into gaps are just pure class. Also those four could rotate in positions, thus, causing huge trouble for every defense - like Ronnie, Wazza and Tevez did in the good old times..
But it means a 2 man midfield for pogba in which he defensively lacks position wise and his attacking goal scoring talents are not made proper use of, and also Either of Herrera or new Midfeilder is benched
We don't play with same 11 whole season There will be rotations, injuries, suspensions all season.
What have you just done?!If this wasn't the Griezmann thread which most German posters probably don't enter, this post has the potential to turn this thread into a classic Caf German storm.
However, we have to attack against most of the teams we play..
Most of the season we have been playing with a two man midfield and our defense has been looking quite good. We lack goals and IF we would really go for Griez than I would see him wasted when playing as a winger.
Moreover Pogba is still young and has all the abilities to further develop his defensive play.
Our current best player DDG wants to leave for Madrid, and our previous current best player wanted to go to Real as well. If you judge by that standard Im not sure if United is 1st tier as our best players can be poached as well.
By that Logic Kroos went to Madrid from bayern, Thiago went from Barcelona to Bayern , Its all about the project, Manager and Player preference When it comes to big clubs.
They werent starters and certainly not their best players. Kroos was left on the bench a few times and Thiago wasnt a starter either. More relevant are players like Neuer, Boateng, Robben, or Ronaldo, Modric, Bale, Messi, Neymar, Busquets. Star players without any conflict who still want to move higher.
I think when Ronaldo moved from United to Madrid we were 3 times champions in england 2 times ucl finalists and winner in one and madrid were struggling in the league and were knocked out in the champions league in last 16 for 6 straight years , We could have matched any money madrid gave him even bettered it. It was all about him wanting to move to a different culture closer to his mum same about De Gea if he moves.
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Kroos played 24(8) games in his last season at Bayern, so he started a fairly slim majority of games but was often used from the bench. They had a pretty ridiculous embarrassment of riches at the time.
@sincher just showed it, he was getting benched at a period and had a bad relationship with the coach.
Yeah yeah, we can find reasons similarly for the Dortmund players then. Our best players have wanted to leave us and go Real, no best player at Real who's still in favor will ever want to leave them. It doesnt happen, only when conflicts arise, same for Barcelona and Bayern.
Thatll teach me to read the whole thread!
Great player, unthinkable,in my eyes, to bench him.
Haha , Really? Scholes Vidic Ferdinand Rooney Evra Keane Schmeichael Giggs Cole Bruce Cantona Carrick were our best players with whom we Achived Maximum Success and none of them Wanted to move to madrid from united.
Cristiano Ronaldo Literally stepped down from united to madrid at that period of time and combined with Hiring of Jose Mourinho Real madrid started a project with the lure of mourinho and Cristiano ronaldo and started throwing Inflated Transfer fee For every player including Modric Bale Ozil Benzema which were linked to us under sir alex but he was not a fan of Overpaying in the transfer market, They targeted with the help of Mourinho Himself who is the Only League title winner for madrid For 8 years since they bought Ronaldo. It was not a case of Ronaldo stepping up to a better club or project as he was a global superstar even back then with united and a ballon d"or winner and a ucl winner. Still for 2 years United were better performing than madrid.
He went for family reasons and having a son with a english girl could be one of those reasons too who's identity he has never revealed in public and for taking care of him he needed his family with him.
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