Apparently his brother was at our match last night.
Antoine Griezmann
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Can't wait for November when we get to see him play 
Can't wait for November when we get to see him play
November?
Opinion based.
I think even the most pessimistic of people on here must have a hard time not seeing this deal happening? Or is it just me. We'd have to truly collapse and turn into an utter tumescent unattractive mess for him not to be signed in the summer.
He's really made the leap as a passer. Fantastic one touch balls over the top in every game now.
I think if we do get CL he will come for certain, and if we don't I can see him coming as well with a bit of persuasion by Pogba, Mourinho & $$$. There's not much left for him at Athletico, and we are the perfect next step.
Ibrahimovic also makes some great runs off the ball, off the shoulder of the last defender. He does drop deep frequently to link-up play which is a prominent facet of his game though but it does add a nice dose of unpredictability to his game.
So nailed on it won't even be a saga. A lot of journos will try and use this transfer to confirm their "itk" position, but really it is quite an obvious one to call.
Enough for me!
Everytime I see his celebration I remember his hilarious Puma commercial that uses it. Watch it if you haven't done so already.
Absolutely love it
For those that want to see the video
Griezmann would be a luxury signing. I'm not against it though. He looks world class.
This is a great commercial!
That's brilliant
When he popped up from behind the bar with the cocktail mixers I kinda lost it
Would love to have Griezmann here at United, but if we are going to spend a monstrous amount of money this summer, I would rather see that go towards buying Mbappe. He is good already, in a few years he will be an absolute star.
Griezmann is already a star.
We already have enough players who can be absolute stars in the future, what we need is absolute stars now.
Woody must feel like a caged beast after seeing that. Probably engineered this whole Rooney/China saga just let off some of that pent up Griezman steam
He's a handsome fecker too. A marketing man's wet dream. Woody should be all over him (no pun intended)
He's a handsome fecker too. A marketing man's wet dream. Woody should be all over him (no pun intended)
He reminds me of Dave Franco
His celebration is just a shorter version of..
Yes, as well as anticipation and reaction speed. He's extremely quick to pounce on every loose ball in and around the box. He has a striker's instincts. His left foot is exceptional too, better than Mata's. He has a great free-kick and long-range shot on him as well as precise finishing.
My only worry regarding this whole saga, is that it started at a time when we hadn't worked out what our best team was and we were very goal shy. We have improved drastically since then and at the heart of that has been the Mkhi-Mata partnership. Bringing in Griezmann means that most likely Mata will be dropped and Mkhi will be moved to the right.
Now if that improves us as a team, no complains from me. But considering Griezmann might cost another £80m you have to wonder if that's the best investment for such a large sum of money considering the other places where we'll need to strengthen in the next 15 months (Carrick & Ibra's successors, mainly). Not to mention the risk with every transfer, that the player might not settle or adapt to the country/league (á la Veron, Di Maria etc.)
I'll trust Mou's judgement whatever that turns out to be, but I'm a bit skeptical about this transfer no matter how much I love Griezmann as a player.
This is fantastic.
Been doing a lot of scouting of him tonight.. concerned about whether he's the right guy for us.
I think I'm feeling a lot more positive now - he's basically a forward and more Aguero than a guy who would tread on Mkhi or Mata toes.
He does come back and link up play but his game is very geared towards being a goal scorer and not really in the playmaking side of things.. he drops deep to confuse the opponent but comes to life in the final third.
False 9 with two goalscoring wide forwards and guys who can slot him in .. he would be lethal. Has so much class to his game.
Playing him as a winger would be a huge waste of him as I think his game has evolved to the point where he wouldn't be a good winger.. doesn't run at players down the line. It's in central areas and close to goal where his ability to beat a man comes into play. Out wide in EPL he'd be average.
Mkhi behind him on the counter would be lethal especially with an in form Martial to the left.
I think I'm feeling a lot more positive now - he's basically a forward and more Aguero than a guy who would tread on Mkhi or Mata toes.
He does come back and link up play but his game is very geared towards being a goal scorer and not really in the playmaking side of things.. he drops deep to confuse the opponent but comes to life in the final third.
False 9 with two goalscoring wide forwards and guys who can slot him in .. he would be lethal. Has so much class to his game.
Playing him as a winger would be a huge waste of him as I think his game has evolved to the point where he wouldn't be a good winger.. doesn't run at players down the line. It's in central areas and close to goal where his ability to beat a man comes into play. Out wide in EPL he'd be average.
Mkhi behind him on the counter would be lethal especially with an in form Martial to the left.
All the above are very accurate descriptions of him, except the bolded in my opinion. Aguero, Suarez and Tevez are short central strikers but have an element to their game that Griezmann does not have. A sort of tenacity that makes them scrap for balls and offer some hold-up play. Those guys show enough strength to play with their back to goal, but not the same can be said of Griezmann.
Griezmann would be far more likely to step on Mata/Mkhi toes than Ibra's toes, for example. He performs better when there's another target man next to him. And Mou likes his target men too, he's used them on every club he's been at since Porto.
If he were to come we'd have to modify our current formation to accommodate for him slightly. But if he does come, I'm sure it's because Mou has a plan for him and the team.
I agree with you in that he isn't as well suited to be 9 as Suarez or Aguero who are natural strikers but I feel Griezmann has a really high footballing IQ who could play that role in a different way.. not quite as orthodox but can definitely fill in as a false 9 in the right side and wouldn't necessarily need a striker although it makes his job easier.
I just think if we do play Griezmann as a second striker it puts a lot of our good players out of position if we were to do that every game. At home I wouldn't mind but in big games I wouldn't be comfortable with Pogba in a 2 man midfield.
Be interesting to see what happens though. Griezmann in the right position and operating at his best is a genuine world class talent.
That's exactly my worry too. I'm not convinced yet that we are genuinely in for him and that it's not just paper talk. Though he is world class player and a muppet's dream.
That would be better.
Imagine him instead of Rooney in those movie trailers
World-class acting.Ils disent qu'il est une légende
£60m is about his price.
Yeah true, Ibra does offer all that but Greizmann does it at greater speed. He might not have the physical attributes of Zlatan but he'd give us that movement with added pace.
Although if he's Rooney's replacement then chances are both will be playing together, which could be fearsome. Depends if Ibra can maintain this standard going on 36. In the CL match I watched, Gamiero was the quick, direct runner and Griezmann was the one dropping off and playing around the final third with more freedom.
Yeah agree with all that. There's certainly an element of risk attached to this whole deal, even with someone as good as Griezmann. The way Gameiro led the line for Atletico the other night with Griezmann closest to him, was more like a Yorke-Cole type partnership with Saul and Koke supporting from deeper. So Griezmann would have to adapt a bit if he moves here, to not get in the way of the likes of Mata, Mhki, Martial etc.
If he's Rooney's replacement then perhaps Jose's plan is what he initially lined up with back in August, e.g. Bournemouth away 4231 with Pogba in for Fellaini, Griezmann in for Rooney.
------------Ibrahimovic
Martial----Griezmann---Mata/Mkhitaryan
----------Pogba--Herrera
Although how that works in big PL and European night I'm not sure?
It doesn't really, does it? Unless we are really chasing goals, Mou prefers to play 3 in the middle against any credible opponent. In which case Ibra is better up top to offer hold up play and Mkhi (in particular) would be more useful shunted on the right wing than Griezmann. He's a better runner with the ball and more likely to track back to help his RB
Unless he plans to play a different formation altogether, like the diamond he used at Porto:
----------Ibra-----Griezmann
---------------Mkhi
--------Pogba-------Herrera
--LWB---------CDM--------Valencia
-------Smalling----Bailly
--------------DDG
In the above formation the CMD can also be swapped for a ball-playing CB like Jones. Or you can go 3-4-3 like Chelsea:
----------------Ibra
-----Mkhi/Martial---Griezmann/Mata
--LWB---Pogba---Herrera----Valencia
-----Rojo-----Jones----Bailly
---------------DDG
There are options, but like I said it means that one of Martial/Mkhi/Mata will get the shaft. Griezmann is not gonna kick Ibra out of the starting XI, that much I'm almost certain of.
Ibra will only be here 1 more season at most. It's only going to be a problem for a year. We might not even get any European football next year so all these worried theories are silly. We are only 1 bad injury away from seriously lacking quality upfront. If that means 1 of Mkhi/Martial/Griezmann/Ibra will be benched for a game then so be it.
Griezmann is better anyway so who cares if one of the others has to sit on the bench sometimes.
This this and this again! Perfect profile of what we need right now!
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