Antoine Griezmann

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Griezmann would be a pretty good move for both parties to be honest. Griezmann gets to be the face of the biggest club in England & exponentially expand his brand while United sign a 20 goal a season forward. He's essentially Rooney's replacement.

That said even though he's a great player he's not one I particularly fear. You haven't had one of those since Ronaldo left.
 
BlueCelery said:
Griezmann would be a pretty good move for both parties to be honest. Griezmann gets to be the face of the biggest club in England & exponentially expand his brand while United sign a 20 goal a season forward. He's essentially Rooney's replacement.

That said even though he's a great player he's not one I particularly fear. You haven't had one of those since Ronaldo left.
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Then you're a brave man. Mkhi and Martial (in form)?
 
SammyUnited_83 said:
Read the post FFS, I said in my opinion.
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Come on now. You can't just redefine words according to your opinion. Can you imagine the confusion if everyone did that? There is a commonly agreed meaning of 'fame', and it is not the same thing as 'success'. I think you are confusing the two. Success can cause fame, but these days it is possible to be famous for nothing at all.
 
Makes sense and like the Pogba deal, no smoke without fire. If I was a betting man, he'll be here but I suspect Martial with be the fall guy.
 
BlueCelery said:
Griezmann would be a pretty good move for both parties to be honest. Griezmann gets to be the face of the biggest club in England & exponentially expand his brand while United sign a 20 goal a season forward. He's essentially Rooney's replacement.

That said even though he's a great player he's not one I particularly fear. You haven't had one of those since Ronaldo left.
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Those players are few and far to be fair Torres, Henry, Gerrard, Drogba and Augero struggling to think of more I have genuinely thought oh no that fecker is playing and will come up with something against us also.
 
predator said:
You'd have to ask every person in the world if they have heard of United or Madrid. I'd say United win tbh so technically we are probably the more famous club. That is probably music to the stakeholders ears but to the club in probably doesn't give us much to benefit Madrid over.
You could have a 21 year old girl in Vietnam who has never heard of Madrid but knows of United because her older brother never shut ups about it - yet she couldn't name one player.

The poster who is saying well our best player CR7 demanded and got his move to Madrid - does that mean anything when the discussion is about popularity? No. Ronaldo went for many reasons - lifestyle, climate, boyhood fan etc. No bearing whatsoever on the two clubs popularity or fame worldwide.

I'd class Madrid as a bigger club than us purely on their rich history (pun intended).
For me it's Madrid > United - Barca (2nd and 3rd interchangeable).
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It depends where you ask. English speaking world or Spanish speaking. Id have said real are more famous in mainland europe as well. Asia and africa will vary according to current success to an extent.
 
How good is Greizmann technically compared to Mkhitaryan? I mean he obviously scores a lot of goals which clearly sets him apart. But what about other attributes like pace, close control, first touch, dribbling skills, vision, etc?
 
Scholsey2004 said:
It depends where you ask. English speaking world or Spanish speaking. Id have said real are more famous in mainland europe as well. Asia and africa will vary according to current success to an extent.
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Madrid are bigger in the Arab part of Asia but the far east is clearly United's. It's not even close in North America, United are simply the biggest there. I don't know about the south but I'm sure it's either Barcelona or Real Madrid. I don't know about Australia tbh. North Africa is Madrid's, the rest is debatable.
 
Zelalem said:
Madrid are bigger in the Arab part of Asia but the far east is clearly United's. It's not even close in North America, United are simply the biggest there. I don't know about the south but I'm sure it's either Barcelona or Real Madrid. I don't know about Australia tbh. North Africa is Madrid's, the rest is debatable.
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The Premier League owns Australia. Barcelona and Real are popular but behind the big clubs like United, Arsenal and Chelsea
 
The more this is likely the happen the more I'm dreading it. He's a great player but not what we need, especially for that price tag.

Of course I'm not in charge of transfers but I'd rather spend less money and buy O.Dembele. Who, in my opinion has a much higher ceiling than Griezmann.
 
He is a bottler, bottled it regularly in important games the last few years. Marketing wise it would make sense, but i have my doubts about his reputation on here. He wont come here and be the messias some are making him out to be. Very good player, but Atletico will not be crying to sell him for 100m.
 
Trizy said:
The more this is likely the happen the more I'm dreading it. He's a great player but not what we need, especially for that price tag.

Of course I'm not in charge of transfers but I'd rather spend less money and buy O.Dembele. Who, in my opinion has a much higher ceiling than Griezmann.
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We were apparently interested in Dembele last year but he chose Dortmund for the sake of his development. Also, Dortmund won't sell him anytime soon, so it's a non-story imo.
 
United Pro said:
We were apparently interested in Dembele last year but he chose Dortmund for the sake of his development. Also, Dortmund won't sell him anytime soon, so it's a non-story imo.
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Money talks though. Apart from our past 3 years, United is on a whole new level to Dortmund.

It's possible. Probably just a fan dream though.
 
Can't wait to see him play with mata, mkhi and martial. What an exciting 4 they will make.
 
izec said:
He is a bottler, bottled it regularly in important games the last few years. Marketing wise it would make sense, but i have my doubts about his reputation on here. He wont come here and be the messias some are making him out to be. Very good player, but Atletico will not be crying to sell him for 100m.
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I'm with you here. He's a good player, but I think we can better spend the money to improve our team. Thing is, I don't pretend to know exactly how!

We do need Griezmann's consistent finishing, and in yesterday's team, I guess he'd be an obvious replacement for Mata. I just don't honk the upgrade will be significant enough in that role for the money. Yes, he's a better finisher than Mata, but that is hardly Mata's weakness. Other than that, he has similar strengths to Mata and the same weaknesses I think.
 
I think if we signed Griezmann we'd get more benefit in replacing Ibra than Mata, seeing how that bank of 3 behind the striker can play together was outstanding. We created chance after chance that someone more clinical would put away, don't get me wrong Ibra is very good but Griezmann could be the final piece of the puzzle.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Can't wait to see him play with mata, mkhi and martial. What an exciting 4 they will make.
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That front four rotating freely would be bewildering for opposition defences.

I'd love to Jose give them the license to do so. If he signs of course. :)
 
abhayselvan said:
How good is Greizmann technically compared to Mkhitaryan? I mean he obviously scores a lot of goals which clearly sets him apart. But what about other attributes like pace, close control, first touch, dribbling skills, vision, etc?
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In a lot of those things Mkhitaryan is better. Don't think Griezmann comes close in terms of dribbling, close control, vision. But what he is, is a player who is very direct, always looking to run in behind, actually a very good passer, grate pace (much quicker than Mkhitaryan even though Mkhitaryan's quick) and a great finisher.
It's like comparing Mkhitaryan and Alexis. Mkhitaryan is superior in slot of the things I mentioned but that doesn't make him a superior player to Alexis. Griezmann off the ball movement is also light years ahead of Alexis or anyone in our team. Combine that with a player who can finish like he does and you can see why we would want him.
 
was going to post this in the unpopular opinions thread, but may as well post here. I think Mkhitaryan is far more talented than Griezmann. Mkhitaryan oozes with vision first touch close control and is basically two footed. Griezmann however seems to have better eye for goal.

would definitely however love to see us have a team with both in it.
 
Rozay said:
I'm with you here. He's a good player, but I think we can better spend the money to improve our team. Thing is, I don't pretend to know exactly how!

We do need Griezmann's consistent finishing, and in yesterday's team, I guess he'd be an obvious replacement for Mata. I just don't honk the upgrade will be significant enough in that role for the money. Yes, he's a better finisher than Mata, but that is hardly Mata's weakness. Other than that, he has similar strengths to Mata and the same weaknesses I think.
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Although I see where you're coming from, Mata's biggest weakness is his lack of pace. Griezmann has bags of it. Also think he's a lot stronger even though they're roughly the same size.
Overall I agree with your sentiment. For £85m, I would want a player that offeres everything Griezmann does with the added draw dropping technical/dribbling ability.
Dybala would be my choice for that kind of money but even he, hasn't shown anywhere near the consistent goal scoring ability of Griezmann.
A nice compromise is if we could convince Sanchez to move here.
But if we did end up signing Griezmann, I'm in no doubt he'd improve us significantly.
 
Adisa said:
Although I see where you're coming from, Mata's biggest weakness is his lack of pace. Griezmann has bags of it. Also think he's a lot stronger even though they're roughly the same size.
Overall I agree with your sentiment. For £85m, I would want a player that offeres everything Griezmann does with the added draw dropping technical/dribbling ability.
Dybala would be my choice for that kind of money but even he, hasn't shown anywhere near the consistent goal scoring ability of Griezmann.
A nice compromise is if we could convince Sanchez to move here.
But if we did end up signing Griezmann, I'm in no doubt he'd improve us significantly.
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I'm not convinced he has 'bags of pace'. If he did, that alone would cause me to share your sentiment and consider him a worthy upgrade on Mata for a massive feed.
 
Just thinking of all the front four/front three combinations makes me :drool:. I know some on here are concerned with how we can fit in Griezmann, but the way I see it, we can rotate quite a few different ways and have a world class front. If we persist with a 4-2-3-1 we could see lineups such as the following:
Ibrahimović
Martial-----Mkhitaryan-----Mata

Ibrahimović
Martial-----Griezmann-----Mkhitaryan

Ibrahimović
Martial-----Mkhitaryan-----Griezmann

Griezmann
Martial-----Mkhitaryan-----Mata​
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If we want to do 4-3-3, we could see these:
Ibrahimović
Martial---------------------Griezmann

Ibrahimović
Martial---------------------Mkhitaryan

Ibrahimović
Martial---------------------Mata

Griezmann
Martial---------------------Mkhitaryan

Griezmann
Martial---------------------Mata​

Even if we try 4-4-2, we could easily fit him in.
Ibrahimović---Griezmann
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Furthermore, the likes of Rashford, Lingard, and possibly Pereira could also rotate as substitutes or occasional starters. Great way to integrate youth with the stars.
 
Adisa said:
Although I see where you're coming from, Mata's biggest weakness is his lack of pace. Griezmann has bags of it. Also think he's a lot stronger even though they're roughly the same size.
Overall I agree with your sentiment. For £85m, I would want a player that offeres everything Griezmann does with the added draw dropping technical/dribbling ability.
Dybala would be my choice for that kind of money but even he, hasn't shown anywhere near the consistent goal scoring ability of Griezmann.
A nice compromise is if we could convince Sanchez to move here.
But if we did end up signing Griezmann, I'm in no doubt he'd improve us significantly.
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He doesn't have bags of pace though...
 
Trizy said:
Money talks though. Apart from our past 3 years, United is on a whole new level to Dortmund.

It's possible. Probably just a fan dream though.
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I think Dortmund really don't sell when they don't want to and their players are under contract. Pretty much all of their big sales have been when the player has either run down his contract and left for free (Lewandowski), had 1 year left on his contract (Kagawa, Hummels, Gundogan, Mkhitaryan) or had a release clause (Gotze). Which is why the likes of Weigl and Dembele imo won't be moving any time soon, unless Dortmund want them out.
But the initial post about Dembele and Carrasco being a better fit for United compared to Griezmann may well be true.
 
I only saw the first half hour of the game, but he played a lovely through ball to Carrasco.
 
BlueCelery said:
Griezmann would be a pretty good move for both parties to be honest. Griezmann gets to be the face of the biggest club in England & exponentially expand his brand while United sign a 20 goal a season forward. He's essentially Rooney's replacement.

That said even though he's a great player he's not one I particularly fear. You haven't had one of those since Ronaldo left.
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You'll have to qualify for cl first. Griezmann is a Ballon d'or aspirant and his chances to win Ballon d'or will go down without cl.
 
He isn't that much better than Mkhitaryan. Apart from finishing and sharpness, he doesn't have anything on Mkhi.
 
Zelalem said:
He isn't that much better than Mkhitaryan. Apart from finishing and sharpness, he doesn't have anything on Mkhi.
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He's better than anyone of you player , He gave bigger cl performances in one season that Mkhitarian , Ibra etc have failed to give in most of his career. His finishing is amoung the best, build up play and big match performances are better than anyone in your squad. He would score 50 goals a season if he played in a team that gave him on platter like Madrid does to Cr7. In Euro he took less shot but ouscored everyone. Anyway, Keep Mkhitarian and leave Griezmann to us:D we'll probably make another deep run in cl while Mkhitarian can help you win Europa league like he did with Dortumund :D
 
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