In the US, where I have lived for five years and travelled extensively, it's not even close.
United are much more supported and way, way more widely known.
Perhaps the club that are most regonisible to people who don't know football.
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In the US, where I have lived for five years and travelled extensively, it's not even close.
United are much more supported and way, way more widely known.
Perhaps the club that are most regonisible to people who don't know football.
I am looking forward to coming back to this thread when he signs in the summer and laughing at the few doubters.
This move makes so much sense for him and will happen.
We are in the most prestigous league, building a team that will compete at every level, and are the most famous club in the world. That's not to mention the money...
This move makes so much sense for him and will happen.
We are in the most prestigous league, building a team that will compete at every level, and are the most famous club in the world. That's not to mention the money...
If he's going anywhere it's going to be to UTD , how's can anyone question this lol.
And in Asia too. He talked out of his ass of course. Madrid are more successful yes, but they're not more supported, famous or popular. Far from it.
Yes, I spent 8 months throughout SE Asia.
There, it isn't even in the same universe.
It's like comparing the popularity of United and Sunderland in the UK.
Exactly what the most supported & famous club needs to do, photoshopped their fans into the stadium.
Oh, dear..
Exactly what the most supported & famous club needs to do, photoshopped their fans into the stadium.
Oh, dear..
C'mon, of course United is more popular in US.
But look at Real's numbers. 32 domestic titles and 11 CL titles. No joke.
I was at that game. 5:1 United fans to Madrid. The whole stadium erupted when Ronaldo started warming up
I am from SE Asia and its true that in terms of support, most follow Manchester United and Liverpool, followed by Arsenal. Everybody knows Real Madrid and their successful history but as fans, the BPL commands the biggest appeal by far.
We need a leader , we don't need a Beckham
Beckham was our captain under ferguson and captain of England and i am very sure ferguson knew a leader more than you.
I think he is our first option with Bernardo silva the second one. I would be more than happy with either one.
I think you are underestimating the contribution that Beckham gave on the pitch.
Please explain how I am talking out of my ass.
I never once said they had more supporters in Asia, US, wherever.
I never once said they were more popular in Asia, US, wherever.
But, within the footballing world they are a bigger team - they have won 11 CL titles, any player in the world would go there (we lost Ronaldo to them when we were arguably the best / 2nd best team in Europe, with the best manager of our generation).
For me fame isn't built around how many people support / know about us, it's about success and the aura they have built up because of that, this is the main difference, in my opinion.
Today's Sun:
Antoine Griezmann will snub Manchester United – if Jose Mourinho’s side fail to qualify for the Champions League
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...hester-united-jose-mourinho-champions-league/
Antoine Griezmann will snub Manchester United – if Jose Mourinho’s side fail to qualify for the Champions League
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...hester-united-jose-mourinho-champions-league/
So, anyway, Griezmann...
Quite an entertaining debate, although nothing new, but a funny watch all the same.
Beckham was not our captain.
Great player, wish he had a thread we could talk about him in...
That picture of all the red shirts in the stadium in the US gives a false impression. You see, if you have red and white on a palette and you mix them together, what colour do you get? That's right: red. There's at least 60% white shirts in that crowd, maybe even 90.
lolz
If you ignore the global audience and fanbase it means Madrid are the most famous club in world football.
In the football world...
Anyway that Sun article is the easiest article in the world to write. I'm expecting an article telling us City have entered the race and how we're 'locked in battle'
In the football world...
Anyway that Sun article is the easiest article in the world to write. I'm expecting an article telling us City have entered the race and how we're 'locked in battle'
You're just changing the definition of the word to suit your argument. Fame is literally defined by how many people know you...
I was about to post exactly the same.You'd have to ask every person in the world if they have heard of United or Madrid. I'd say United win tbh so technically we are probably the more famous club. That is probably music to the stakeholders ears but to the club in probably doesn't give us much to benefit Madrid over.
You could have a 21 year old girl in Vietnam who has never heard of Madrid but knows of United because her older brother never shut ups about it - yet she couldn't name one player.
The poster who is saying well our best player CR7 demanded and got his move to Madrid - does that mean anything when the discussion is about popularity? No. Ronaldo went for many reasons - lifestyle, climate, boyhood fan etc. No bearing whatsoever on the two clubs popularity or fame worldwide.
I'd class Madrid as a bigger club than us purely on their rich history (pun intended).
For me it's Madrid > United - Barca (2nd and 3rd interchangeable).
You could have a 21 year old girl in Vietnam who has never heard of Madrid but knows of United because her older brother never shut ups about it - yet she couldn't name one player.
The poster who is saying well our best player CR7 demanded and got his move to Madrid - does that mean anything when the discussion is about popularity? No. Ronaldo went for many reasons - lifestyle, climate, boyhood fan etc. No bearing whatsoever on the two clubs popularity or fame worldwide.
I'd class Madrid as a bigger club than us purely on their rich history (pun intended).
For me it's Madrid > United - Barca (2nd and 3rd interchangeable).
So was I
This is just getting stupid, how the line hasn't been drawn and acknowledged between success and fame multiple pages back is beyond me.
Read the post FFS, I said in my opinion.
his argument is so terrible he has resorted to trying to change the meaning and definition of words in the English language in the hope no one notices.
Good luck with that mate
your opinion is irrelevant when it comes to pre-defined meanings of basic English words.
You're having a nightmare and rather than admit it and move on you are going down with your ship
Personal experience means literally nothing when we're talking about the whole word. Being the most popular club only gives a small indication but in the end means nothing either. Is there a study about the most known football club? If there is then look up the results and if there isn't the discussion is pointless.
That being said the question itself is a bit irrelevant anyway.
That being said the question itself is a bit irrelevant anyway.
your opinion is irrelevant when it comes to pre-defined meanings of basic English words.
You're having a nightmare and rather than admit it and move on you are going down with your ship
If you can't understand / be bothered to read, that I am making reference to Madrid being famous through a rich history of success, which pretty much gives them the pick of the best players then that isn't my problem. (in this case, success and fame are linked together)
I made a flippant comment, that in my opinion, with all things considered, Madrid are the most famous team in the world - ultimately I don't really care, so I will leave it at that.
your opinion is irrelevant when it comes to pre-defined meanings of basic English words.
You're having a nightmare and rather than admit it and move on you are going down with your ship
I've been laughing the last 5 minutes reading through this and only now just remembered what thread we're in. Big transfers like this do be discussed months in advance between us and the player's entourage, I expect everything is agreed and it will only be a matter of us meeting the release clause. So trivial conversations may as well carry on in this thread to bulk up the number of pages, I don't expect this thread will have a long life this coming summer (Whether we get Champions League or not
)United are definitely the most recognizable club in the world, but Griezmann should come to Chelsea regardless.
When did that happen?
He won't answer...ignored me earlier. I too would like to know when Beckham was captain.
He was never United Captain though. He may have done the odd game when Keane wasn't playing, or when like you say he was the most senior on the pitch for a early round in the cup.
Probably the most senior player left in the early round of a Cup though.
That's like saying Beckham once wore the 10 shirt. Laughable.
All I want is this (without the music)
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