Antoine Griezmann

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thegregster said:
People go one about fitting in Grizmann.

He would start ahead of any of our attackers. He is better than any of them.
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You are right.
In addition someone invented a story that he is only good in a second striker position, and now everyone is babbling this nonsense. Wonder how many games the average cafe member has seen him play. Not too many i'd say, at least the one's babbling this second striker nonsense. Beside that, striker is a completely different position at Atletico, then at our club
 
Beachryan said:
For me it's a test of Mourinho's power at the club. Super marquee signing sounds more like Ed's desires than Jose's.

All of Jose's teams have featured a target man, except for Madrid when he had to deal with, well Madrid's front line.

Our strongest area of the pitch is behind the forward, with Mhiki, Mata, Martial all getting good minutes, with of course Fellaini also being thrown up there. And Rooney. And that one time Pogba.

The only way this makes sense is if you scrap Rooney and one of Mata and Martial. If he comes he has to play, and the others aren't going to stay if they don't get minutes.

For that kind of expenditure, the team would be much better served plugging holes we have imo.
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Griezmann was linked to Chelsea when Mourinho was there IIRC so it wouldn't be a Woodward signing. Milito and Eto'o weren't used as target men at Inter either along with Benzema. Drogba, Costa and Ibra have often been used that way because they're great at it. We have a lot of talented players behind the forward but at the end of the day, our finishing means that none of that matters result wise and Griezmann last season was the best finisher in the world, and God knows we need to improve our finishing.
 
Celestiale said:
You are right.
In addition someone invented a story that he is only good in a second striker position, and now everyone is babbling this nonsense. Wonder how many games the average cafe member has seen him play. Not too many i'd say, at least the one's babbling this second striker nonsense. Beside that, striker is a completely different position at Atletico, then at our club
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You are the one that invented that, what people said is that while Griezmann can play anywhere he is far better as a second striker and a player like him should play in his best position and not forced to play a role where he is a lesser player.

It's like playing Messi on the left, he can do it but that's not where he is best.
 
Griezmann would be fantastic addition to United for a team whose main problem seems to putting the ball into the net and lack of ruthlessness in front of goal our supporters seem to be very picky.

As for how to go about fitting both Pogba and Griezmann thats something for Mourinho to ponder but objectively speaking Pogba in midfield 2 and Griezmann as support striker would work against 70 % of teams in the League and thats where league are won and lost in my opinion . But all this would be moot if we are not able to find the right midfielder partner for Pogba .


Other thing I will like to add is though 433 formation adds lots of control to midfield it requires wide forwards to be highly prolific for it be effective which we are currently lacking so it wont be the worst Idea to alter the formation a bit and add another offensive player in there who happen it be very clinical goal scorer.
 
When you see how bad our chance conversion rate is it's no surprise to see us linked with Griezman. A finisher like him would make a huge difference.
 
JPRouve said:
You are the one that invented that, what people said is that while Griezmann can play anywhere he is far better as a second striker and a player like him should play in his best position and not forced to play a role where he is a lesser player.

It's like playing Messi on the left, he can do it but that's not where he is best.
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It's feckin irrelevant what "position" a player plays. There are no positions on a real football field, nor are there real positions in a real football game. Messi is nominal mostly a RA, but he is all over the pitch in an actual game. Mata is mostly "RA" in our games, his actual average position is pretty close to Carrick and more defensive then Valencia. We can easily put Griezmann in an "RA" position. In the end he will be anywhere he is good at.
 
Didn't think Greizmann was that player but he's just smashed in an amazing hit from twenty five yards.

Barely knew he was playing then BOOM. Opened the can.

Get him bought.
 
Not happy he scored against Bilbao, but sign him up anyway. Will stop him being a thorn in their side for a start. We need people who can put the ball in the net.
 
AndyJ1985 said:
Yes he can score goals, something we badly need, but who cares about that. The important question is where does he fit in?!?
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Indeed. Caf is amazing at times.

I mean, the last time we had a top 3 player (according to Ballon D'Or voting which is the closest thing to something official and accepted in football) was in 2008, but we don't want one cause where does he fit in?!
 
"Buy player first, figure out if they fit later" is a stupid idea. The fact that the player in question came third in an overhyped popularity contest is irrelevant. We're supposed to be building a team that works as a unit, not buying a load of random players who might not bring the best out of each other.
 
Ibrahimovic is aging, and I doubt he plays more than 2 seasons in the Prem.

Griezmann would be a great successor. I was kind of thinking we'd sign Griezmann in 2018 when Ibra's about to leave/retire.

The diamond is really the only way we could get the best out of Griezmann/Ibra/Pogba. I don't know if Mourinho would use that. It'd also remove our use of 'wingers' who have under-performed as a whole so far.
 
Revan said:
Indeed. Caf is amazing at times.

I mean, the last time we had a top 3 player (according to Ballon D'Or voting which is the closest thing to something official and accepted in football) was in 2008, but we don't want one cause where does he fit in?!
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Funniest thing is that Griezmann's average position is on the right flank, exactly where we have more or less a vacation. But NOOOOOO (with Scottish accent), media says he is a striker, so he must play striker :wenger:
 
sullydnl said:
"Buy player first, figure out if they fit later" is a stupid idea. The fact that the player in question came third in an overhyped popularity contest is irrelevant. We're supposed to be building a team that works as a unit, not buying a load of random players who might not bring the best out of each other.
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It is actually the best award in football, people care about it and it is not very biased.

But the most important reason I would want him is that he is better than any of our players. He is better than Ibra and Pogba, so we shouldn't make him fit in the team, but build the team around him.

So, when you can get a player that is better than any of your current player, you just get him and then make the other players adjust their games.
 
Revan said:
But the most important reason I would want him is that he is better than any of our players. He is better than Ibra and Pogba, so we shouldn't make him fit in the team, but build the team around him.

So, when you can get a player that is better than any of your current player, you just get him and then make the other players adjust their games.
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Exactly.
 
Revan said:
It is actually the best award in football, people care about it and it is not very biased.

But the most important reason I would want him is that he is better than any of our players. He is better than Ibra and Pogba, so we shouldn't make him fit in the team, but build the team around him.

So, when you can get a player that is better than any of your current player, you just get him and then make the other players adjust their games.
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Yup.

People need to remember that despite Zlatan's heroics we're getting one more season from him tops. And it's likely his output will fall. It's imperative we sign a World Class forward.
 
He's got the ability to shoot low and hard with all his power right into the corners, not many players can finish like that. Fantastic technique. Only other forward like that I can think of is Harry Kane.
 
Celestiale said:
Funniest thing is that Griezmann's average position is on the right flank, exactly where we have more or less a vacation. But NOOOOOO (with Scottish accent), media says he is a striker, so he must play striker :wenger:
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Are you saying he gravitates toward that position in game or that right wing is where he plays most of his matches from? Because that isn't true - both whoscored and Transfermarkt have his starting position for 20+ matches at striker/second-striker position and about 4 or 5 at right wing.
 
I don't see him starting at right wing would pose too big a problem. As far as I can see, most games United would have Valencia hugging that right wing position, and if this continues, surely Griezmann wouldn't need to stay wide.
 
NotQuiteManc said:
I don't see him starting at right wing would pose too big a problem. As far as I can see, most games United would have Valencia hugging that right wing position, and if this continues, surely Griezmann wouldn't need to stay wide.
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That's what I was thinking too. I mean whenever Mata or Mkhitaryan are playing wide they are always coming centrally. Griezmann would definitely do the same. Valencia is always playing as a sort of auxiliary winger in any case. If we got Semedo he could do the same.
 
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