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How the hell did you get Griezmann?
My god Antoine! Pull yourself together man!
Jesus, talk about Real Madrids Galacticos, its nothing compared to what you have. Pogba, Zlatan, Griezmann.
This is what City should have done with their money... not Sané and Sterling. Mind you, they probably dont have the pulling power.
My god Antoine! Pull yourself together man!
Jesus, talk about Real Madrids Galacticos, its nothing compared to what you have. Pogba, Zlatan, Griezmann.
This is what City should have done with their money... not Sané and Sterling. Mind you, they probably dont have the pulling power.
I would consider Griezmann IN + 2-3 more IN with exits for Rooney, Young, Schweinsteiger and Fellani OUT a very successful transfer window.
Fellaini will stay.
Rojo and Jones are just fine.
If he comes I'd imagine we'd play 4-3-1-2 for the majority of the time, similar to how Mourinho set up at Inter. I'm a bit skeptical about how we'll fit everyone in to get the best out of them but our main problem this season has been efficiency and Griezmann last season was the most efficient finisher in the world, so it's no surprise to see why our interest is there.
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Get it done Woody.
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Get it done Woody.
At the moment. Hardly reliable though.
Your posts always read like Jedi mind tricks.
You're having a laugh right?Very weird indeed. Very weird to go for the best player in the world outside of Real and Barca, one of the best two players in the world in his age category.
Our club must be mad.
He came third in the Ballon D'or, almost matched Messi and Ronaldo for productivity and got Atleti to a final by scoring vital goals against Bayern etc. He might not be the most talented player in the world but by last season's form he was the third most effective.
Then again, you're of the opinion that Hazard is the best player in the world, so I don't even know why I'm responding to you. Carry on.
How the hell did you get Griezmann?
My god Antoine! Pull yourself together man!
Jesus, talk about Real Madrids Galacticos, its nothing compared to what you have. Pogba, Zlatan, Griezmann.
This is what City should have done with their money... not Sané and Sterling. Mind you, they probably dont have the pulling power.
It would be great if we pull it off. Shows how much pulling power we still have. Feels good tbh
he's taking the piss, don't engage.
Herrera is our player of the season over any big names in the team we have, what he does in his position he does on the highest level, he will not be replaced, he will be one of the first names on the team sheet I am sure, Carrick will be released and Herrera possibly moved to the pivot role, does that make him a better player? Not sure but I am certain that he can adjust in some time so we can play another player up front and he can sit there with Pogba, who will still have a bit of freedom there if our play some fast and hardworking player like Mhkitaryan next to Pogba, In tougher games both players can sit deeper..
I am not sure if there's a world class no6 available around so we might go this way
How the hell did you get Griezmann?
My god Antoine! Pull yourself together man!
Jesus, talk about Real Madrids Galacticos, its nothing compared to what you have. Pogba, Zlatan, Griezmann.
This is what City should have done with their money... not Sané and Sterling. Mind you, they probably dont have the pulling power.
Funny thing with your pisstake is that it is all so true.
1: This is what City should have done, as evident by the lack of impact by their new signings
2: If we push out the boat we will likely get Griezman
3: Yes, we do have more pulling power than City
Only part of your pisstake that actually qualifies as one is the fact that you are ridiculing people talking about this as a done dealio.
How the hell did you get Griezmann?
My god Antoine! Pull yourself together man!
Jesus, talk about Real Madrids Galacticos, its nothing compared to what you have. Pogba, Zlatan, Griezmann.
This is what City should have done with their money... not Sané and Sterling. Mind you, they probably dont have the pulling power.
Those that can only dream of world class players can only sneer, I guess.
Because it looks like he is going to join us this summer, we will start to hear the below comments,from our opponents
But uptill the rumours linking us to him surfaced ,he was world class, the best in the world.
At the same time Mane at £ 25 million was overated in the summer of 2015 when we wanted him,only to become an absolute world class player at a bargain at the price of £34 million when Liverpool got him
Just wonder how ???
- He is overated
- He is a one season wonder
- He wasn't an important player for Athletico
- Real Madrid don't like him / don't have a place for him their squad
- He won't do well in the EPL
But uptill the rumours linking us to him surfaced ,he was world class, the best in the world.
At the same time Mane at £ 25 million was overated in the summer of 2015 when we wanted him,only to become an absolute world class player at a bargain at the price of £34 million when Liverpool got him
Just wonder how ???
You're not the only one. This isn't the first time these issues have been highlighted on this thread, by some very knowledgeable posters, and question marks still remain. From what we've heard from the ITKs and the rumour mill though, it's looking more and more likely to happen, so all that's left for us is to try and imagine how Jose will line up next season.
AFAIK most of the question marks over this transfer are in regards to his compatibility in a 4-3-3 formation. The formation which, by general consensus, gets the best out of Paul Pogba, who is much worse off playing in a midfield two.Because it looks like he is going to join us this summer, we will start to hear the below comments.
- He is overated
- He is a one season wonder
- He wasn't an important player for Athletico
- Real Madrid don't like him / don't have a place for him their squad
- He won't do well in the EPL
But uptill the rumours linking us to him surfaced ,he was world class, the best in the world.
At the same time Mane at £ 25 million was overated in the summer of 2015 when we wanted him,only to become an absolute world class player at a bargain at the price of £34 million when Liverpool got him
Just wonder how ???
So now you have a situation where either one or the other could potentially be neutered by having to choose between a 4-3-3 and a 4-2-3-1. There's no real conclusive answer to those questions at this stage, I'm afraid. We'll just have to wait and see how it pans out.
You really do waste your daily posts, you can come in here all sarcastic and all but you're not going to wind up any United fans, everyone here is going to be excited we're signing Griezemann, why don't you at least do your wumming sensibly in a thread where people will take you seriously?How the hell did you get Griezmann?
My god Antoine! Pull yourself together man!
Jesus, talk about Real Madrids Galacticos, its nothing compared to what you have. Pogba, Zlatan, Griezmann.
This is what City should have done with their money... not Sané and Sterling. Mind you, they probably dont have the pulling power.
He's a great player but he's still not the best player outside Barca/Madrid. That's absurd.
Wait how is this even a wind up? Yes, we haven't signed Griezmann yet, but chances are we will. Calling Pogba, Zlatan and Griezmann better than Madrid's Galacticos is also a stretch. But the other point about United having a greater puling power than City is valid. If you're trying to WUM, you should really make it more obvious, without "sarcastically" praising United with valid statements.How the hell did you get Griezmann?
My god Antoine! Pull yourself together man!
Jesus, talk about Real Madrids Galacticos, its nothing compared to what you have. Pogba, Zlatan, Griezmann.
This is what City should have done with their money... not Sané and Sterling. Mind you, they probably dont have the pulling power.
How the hell did you get Griezmann?
My god Antoine! Pull yourself together man!
Jesus, talk about Real Madrids Galacticos, its nothing compared to what you have. Pogba, Zlatan, Griezmann.
This is what City should have done with their money... not Sané and Sterling. Mind you, they probably dont have the pulling power.
I absolutely can't tell if you're on a wum, but the Galacticos were something else. Where they failed at was gelling as a team (after the Fenomeno then Beckham signing) and that's what we're trying to avoid with Jose.
Because it looks like he is going to join us this summer, we will start to hear the below comments,from our opponents
- He is overated
- He is a one season wonder
- He wasn't an important player for Athletico
- Real Madrid don't like him / don't have a place for him their squad
- He won't do well in the EPL
But uptill the rumours linking us to him surfaced ,he was world class, the best in the world.
At the same time Mane at £ 25 million was overated in the summer of 2015 when we wanted him,only to become an absolute world class player at a bargain at the price of £34 million when Liverpool got him
Just wonder how ???
Mane is not world class, there's only a few world class players in the world.
Debatable, not absurd. Look at the 2016 Ballon D'Or results.
I don't think Ballon D'Or results are any reasonable way to judge that though. In 2016, Jamie Vardy got 11 times as many votes as Modric, Mahrez got 4 times as many votes as Zlatan and Griezmann got more votes than Suarez and Neymar combined.
United wouldn't be after Griezmann if he wasn't a top player.
I will say though that Eden Hazard is a better player than Griezmann.
Looking at some of the top wingers in the world here:
2016/17
2015/16
2014/15
2015/16
2014/15
We're talking about a player who is lesser than Eden Hazard in terms of quality (outside of goals that is).
Statistics don't lie, however you could say that Atleticos play style of being defensive doesn't bring the best out of him.
Maybe a more attacking squad and outfit with better players around him would boost his numbers, Atletico has a talented squad but Mkhitaryan and Pogba around him might help his performances more.
He does score a goal every 2 games on average though.
To respond to Balague obviously there is no agreement with griezemann, it would be huge news if it were. Even if we were in pole position its not job done, until its done.
The best thing about current united though is that a great player joining the team now makes sense. If griezemann joined last year he would be miles ahead of our other outfield players. Now we have Zlatan and Pogba (I don't care if he was average against Liverpool) great players join with people to look up to in the team.
The best thing about current united though is that a great player joining the team now makes sense. If griezemann joined last year he would be miles ahead of our other outfield players. Now we have Zlatan and Pogba (I don't care if he was average against Liverpool) great players join with people to look up to in the team.
It's agreed, all the right noises are coming out.
"We won't stop him leaving" for example is pretty much "verbal agreement in place".
Right. It's all just part of the debate
United wouldn't be after Griezmann if he wasn't a top player.
I will say though that Eden Hazard is a better player than Griezmann.
Looking at some of the top wingers in the world here:
2016/17
2015/16
2014/15
We're talking about a player who is lesser than Eden Hazard in terms of quality (outside of goals that is).
Statistics don't lie, however you could say that Atleticos play style of being defensive doesn't bring the best out of him.
Maybe a more attacking squad and outfit with better players around him would boost his numbers, Atletico has a talented squad but Mkhitaryan and Pogba around him might help his performances more.
He does score a goal every 2 games on average though.
That's just domestic league. Griezmann also did well in the champs league and the Euros, which are other important places where you want a top player to show his quality.
United wouldn't be after Griezmann if he wasn't a top player.
I will say though that Eden Hazard is a better player than Griezmann.
Looking at some of the top wingers in the world here:
2016/17
2015/16
2014/15
We're talking about a player who is lesser than Eden Hazard in terms of quality (outside of goals that is).
Statistics don't lie, however you could say that Atleticos play style of being defensive doesn't bring the best out of him.
Maybe a more attacking squad and outfit with better players around him would boost his numbers, Atletico has a talented squad but Mkhitaryan and Pogba around him might help his performances more.
He does score a goal every 2 games on average though.
Hazard is not better than Griezmann lol. You're comparing a player who's performances got his team to the Finals of the Euros and Champions League to a player who's performances was one of the reasons his club isn't even competing in the Champions League.
I am a pessimist. I was one of the voices in the Pogba thread until the last saying it wasn't going to happen as I thought he was too good for us. I am more optimistic now we have three world class players though, I do see griezemann as a realistic target I just haven't seen a source I rate giving any credence to the story.
Hazard is a greater player than Griezmann in terms of dribbling, passing, chance creation.
Griezmann is a better finisher.
I'm 90% confident the transfer will happen, I think there's a verbal agreement from the club. Simeone has said "He won't stop him" which sounds like there's something behind the scenes, plus Griezmann spoke to the media about "asking Pogba how Man Utd is",
he's a United fan plus United have watched him before his Sociedad games too and Rene actually confirmed that years ago.
Plus talking about logistics here, Atletico wouldn't want him to go to Real Madrid, Barcelona are stacked in those positions already, the only way Griezmann would fit at Barca is if Iniesta moved on, Messi dropped to midfield, and Griezmann took the RW position.
However Barcelonas wage bill is already too high, they already are scraping the bottom of the barrel for Messi's new contract.
If you are going to sell to a club from Atleticos perspective it's United all day long, they'll meet the transfer valuation (and even overpay) it'll allow Atletico to get targets they really want which they'll already be planning for AND it'll add squad depth to really allow them to push on all fronts.
Griezemann isn't a winger for a start mate so comparing him against other wingers won't do you much good. Also Griezemann has achieved a lot more than Hazard, extremely debatable if Hazard's better than him you'd be hard pressed to find many who agreed with you.United wouldn't be after Griezmann if he wasn't a top player.
I will say though that Eden Hazard is a better player than Griezmann.
Looking at some of the top wingers in the world here:
2016/17
2015/16
2014/15
We're talking about a player who is lesser than Eden Hazard in terms of quality (outside of goals that is).
Statistics don't lie, however you could say that Atleticos play style of being defensive doesn't bring the best out of him.
Maybe a more attacking squad and outfit with better players around him would boost his numbers, Atletico has a talented squad but Mkhitaryan and Pogba around him might help his performances more.
He does score a goal every 2 games on average though.
His off the ball movement and his link-up play is better too, he regularly gets his strike partner involved in goals. Not to add, he doesn't nearly blow as hot and cold as Hazard does.
Hazard might be better at certain aspects of the game but you need to take into account he's playing in a albeit more competitive but less impressive league. Goals win you games, that's why Griezmann's teams are competing for World Cups and Champions Leagues.
I know Griezmann isn't a winger, but this is the issue.
Disagree me if you want, I think Griezmann is world-class first and foremost and I've been a huge advocate of Griezmann for years, I've loved him since his Sociedad days.
Hazard is great at running at players, driving at defenders and drawing them back, he can create something out of nothing and he's the best player in the EPL.
Griezmann runs off players, you won't find him dribbling at players often, he's not someone to take on players in the sense of weaving in and out of people, he needs to run off a striker or play a give-and-go.
Look at any of his goals, he's a "fox in the box" with excellent technique, finishing and a burst of acceleration running onto a knock-down or a pass through the defence.
My concern with Greizmann because of that is, he won't split a defence with two banks of four that with see in the EPL, it's why Atletico haven't beaten Real Madrid in the last two CLs it's been mainly set-pieces that have gotten them goals in those finals.
It's also why France didn't win the Euros they didn't have someone to run at players, drive at them and funnily enough Sissohko was the only player to do that in the final.
When teams go very defensive against United I'm not sure if Griezmann is the right answer, mostly because he needs the right delivery, the right cross but if it does find him he'll score.
United recently we can say have been wasteful in chance conversion and he would help tremendously in that aspect, but I think besides Mhkitaryan and Martial, Rashford, United don't have that running at opposition "fear of god" type factor.
I don't think Griezmann will bring that either.
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That's an interesting perspective and I haven't seen it before. I agree realisticallyy Atleti won't sell a prized asset to one of the big two, arda turan does not count as being of that calibre. Nobody in Germany can afford. PSG could afford but surely griezemann has more ambition than that. Juventus can't afford, they paid a huge amount for Higuain, but that was purely because they were redirecting the Pogba dollar. So the prem is the only place he can go. We have the worlds biggest club, Pogba zlatan Mourinho angle. City can also afford and have pep. Chelsea can afford but with the rumours around costa might not be the most attractive proposition or alternatively he could join as a member of a very lucid front four of him hazard pedro and willian I hope he picks us, but I still think if he is leaving, and that's not guaranteed, we are one of three.
For me it's a test of Mourinho's power at the club. Super marquee signing sounds more like Ed's desires than Jose's.
All of Jose's teams have featured a target man, except for Madrid when he had to deal with, well Madrid's front line.
Our strongest area of the pitch is behind the forward, with Mhiki, Mata, Martial all getting good minutes, with of course Fellaini also being thrown up there. And Rooney. And that one time Pogba.
The only way this makes sense is if you scrap Rooney and one of Mata and Martial. If he comes he has to play, and the others aren't going to stay if they don't get minutes.
For that kind of expenditure, the team would be much better served plugging holes we have imo.
All of Jose's teams have featured a target man, except for Madrid when he had to deal with, well Madrid's front line.
Our strongest area of the pitch is behind the forward, with Mhiki, Mata, Martial all getting good minutes, with of course Fellaini also being thrown up there. And Rooney. And that one time Pogba.
The only way this makes sense is if you scrap Rooney and one of Mata and Martial. If he comes he has to play, and the others aren't going to stay if they don't get minutes.
For that kind of expenditure, the team would be much better served plugging holes we have imo.
Seems a bit overated, worried he might be a one season wonder. Was he really that important for Athletico? If he was you'd have thought Real would have come in for him. This guy could struggle in the Prem.
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