He has proven he is not just a one season wonder. And yes he is very important to Atletico.
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He has proven he is not just a one season wonder. And yes he is very important to Atletico.
Valencia has been our player of the year followed by Zlatan in my opinion. Herrera is having a good season also but there is no way he can play as a sitting midfielder as it doesn't suit his skill set. His passing is not good enough it's far to erratic. He's better as a presser further up the pitch playing ten-15 yard passes. If he was in this Liverpool team he would look unreal. But as a 6 he is not suitable.
So serious question for someone who watches Athletico and France regularly...
This season he has played mostly at 2nd forward if I understand correctly. That is correct yes?
Earlier in his career he played more on the left wing correct?
So the question is where would he line up for us in a 4-3-3 as that is the best formation for our players currently?
Thanks in advance.
This season he has played mostly at 2nd forward if I understand correctly. That is correct yes?
Earlier in his career he played more on the left wing correct?
So the question is where would he line up for us in a 4-3-3 as that is the best formation for our players currently?
Thanks in advance.
Played left forward at Sociedad and was good, converted to a SS at Atleti and has been very good. He could play any position across the front 3 but his best would be a striker in a 10 system.
Personally think Jose will want him as a SS for most games, could play on the wing either side in the tougher games.
He's got the work rate to make any position possible so it's not really a worry.
Imo Jose wants a 4231 with an interchanging front 4. He will give pogba a free role and have 1 cdm who's prime target is to destroy and recycle.
433 suits us now because thats how our players work best at present.
he played against liverpool at anfield deeper and it was his best game for us, also had a great game against chelsea were we drew 0:0 he's still young for a CM and will develop over time like Carrick or Scholes developed. He reads the game really well, can tackle and intercept and recycle ball well, works hard and got much better at marking over tha last few years, he's got a good base for being a no6 in the future, different players play it differently, Scholes couldn't tackle to save his life, Carrick the same, Fernandinho is a midfielder destroyer for City and does the job well even sitting there while he's not the best passer. Verratti's passing range is not any better than Herrera's in Ligue one he's brilliant , ppl want him here because of what they see he does for the best team in the country against shit teams, not saying he's not a world class player but he also likes to play short passes more often than not..
right now I wanna see Herrera playing as a no8 but I can definitely see him moving to a more deeper role over time, what do ppl wthink about hargreaves? he was never a deep laying playmaker, ppl are obsessed with that role Carrick played for us... When I am talking about Herrera playing deeper I am talking about Pogba being thought a bit more discipline, Herrera can play it more actively, changing roles with Pogba at times, i mean Leicester won the league with 4-4-2 and Atletico play like this too, griezmann or whoever is the third midfielder next to Pogba can help out the defense too so we can call it two and a half of a midfielder...
let's say I am optimistic
There are no transfers between Atletico and Real Madrid.
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Sorry buddy disagree fully Herrera is not a 6. Not saying Verrati is either (I have never mentioned him) but since you brought it up Verrati is a far superior passer to Herrera also. Different levels of players imo.
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Sorry buddy disagree fully Herrera is not a 6. Not saying Verrati is either (I have never mentioned him) but since you brought it up Verrati is a far superior passer to Herrera also. Different levels of players imo.
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I will say this again he IS NOT NOW but he can be in the future. Verratti is a bit overrated here imo and ppl mention him being a great buy for no6... time will tell
Exactly this imo.
I agree our best is with Pogba in a free role. But how doess that work in a 4-2-3-1? Is he the 10? And if he is the 10 then Griezmann the LW?
I do not see us using Pogba to his full potential except in a 3 man midfield and more along the lines of a 4-3-3. Based on this where does Griezmann go? LW? Or what am I missing?
Thanks!!
A 2 man midfield with Pogba will only really work with a player who'll sit in front of the back four all game to break up the play and is technically sound enough to take some of the deep-lying playmaking responsibilities from Pogba.
It wouldn't be a waste of money but hes not really what we need.
I said the bolder part a few times a few weeks ago and was told there's no chance of it happening. We're being linked with Bakayoko who's a destroyer and will recycle possession, it's plain obvious we're switching to a 4-2-3-1/4-2-2-2 hybrid with Griezmann.
Woah, no. I wasn't trying to wind anyone up... I just assumed the deal was done because theres a lot of papers talking about some 86million pound deal. Once a lot of papers pick up a story I start to think theres something in it. Thats why I just spoke as if it was a done deal. Apologies if it came across differently.
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I'm not saying Veratti is a 6 but he's better at 6 and 8 than Herrera. Just my opinion I think Herrera is a decent player nothing more.
I will say this again he IS NOT NOW but he can be in the future. Verratti is a bit overrated here imo and ppl mention him being a great buy for no6... time will tell[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying Veratti is a 6 but he's better at 6 and 8 than Herrera. Just my opinion I think Herrera is a decent player nothing more.
Think 433 is an option with Griezman tucked in with both full backs pushed up high with both inside forwards given license to roam.
United have finished 7th 4th and 5th in the last 3 seasons and currently sit 6th. It's hardly a well oiled winning machine is it!
So if Griezmann is available then we should do everything we can to get him. If Martial, Mata or Rooney don't like it then tell them to go play for another team finishing 6th in the league because that is what their performances the last few years have achieved.
So if Griezmann is available then we should do everything we can to get him. If Martial, Mata or Rooney don't like it then tell them to go play for another team finishing 6th in the league because that is what their performances the last few years have achieved.
I envisage pogba playing like how Scholes and Keane used too. He will be allowed to push forward when we have the ball wide, it's just about timing when to attack and when to hold on the outside of the box.
Pogba only showed up against Liverpool when he dropped back into midfield. He's a rubbish forward.
Without Martial we'd have finished a lot lower than 5th last season and wouldn't have reached the FA Cup final, he carried us for large parts and we relied on him way too much. Yes he's not been at the races this season but it's not a reason to sell him.
Well, Antoine carried his club to a Champions League final and his team finished third. Also, he was to most important player on the PO of the Euro. Basically, France reached the finals thanks to him.
If we loaded the midfield by signing Strootman and Bakayoko for example, and another top wing back, then I would be interested in talking about Griezman. Another world class mature striker or winger is welcome but we need our midfield strengthened first.
Games like today and Liverpool are the reason we are chasing Griezmann, finishing chances.
feck it get him in.
Yes he can score goals, something we badly need, but who cares about that. The important question is where does he fit in?!?
Throw anything at him please
Everywhere. Very versatile player. Played RM (in a flat midfield 4), RA, AM and striker this season.
No point spending £85m on a player to use him like that. I'm personally in the camp of we should either set up to play to his strengths and build the team around him, or not buy him at all.
Just fecking buy him already, I've had enough of these cnuts that couldn't score with a free voucher in a brothel.
I'm all for this as well. We desperately need some composure in front of goal.
I know, I was being sarcastic. Of course Greizmann will fit in. He's a world class goal scorer.
Atletico also uses him "this way", and have used him years "this way", pretty successful i'd say. If Mourinho will be his coach, he will have free roam in his favourite position.
Sign him now...
Save us, El Rey Antoine 
I thought it was a choice between him or Icardi, but after witnessing the joke-fest today, I'd take them both and line up:
---Icardi
Martial---Greizman
---Icardi
Martial---Greizman
People go one about fitting in Grizmann.
He would start ahead of any of our attackers. He is better than any of them.
He would start ahead of any of our attackers. He is better than any of them.
I sound like a broken record here but it's like saying Pogba would start ahead of Carrick because he's a better player.
And he would start in his favored position, the problem is that Mourinho and most people will realize why France play for Griezmann and not for Pogba. That's what bothers me, we invested a lot on Pogba to not exploit his talent to the fullest.
Ed, no need to wait till next summer, just bring him now!
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