Antoine Griezmann

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"LVG will stay"

"Pogba was in tears on the phone with Zidane, begging him to save him"


Also where would Ballbag be getting this info from? Not Griezmann's agent because he got rid of his and he definitely doesn't speak to Griezmann directly.
 
Genuinely don't get this signing at all. He's a mediocre winger, isn't exactly a CF & his best position is as a second striker which means you'll be playing Pogba out of position to fit him in.
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c'mon Ed, make this transfer happens! bring him to OT! really exciting and great player!
 
If we want him, he will come. I've no doubt about this.

The only question is: How much do we really want him and will he fit into our squad?

I would hate it if we were the ones who took his star status away by benching him too much.
 
In the last 3 years how much have utd spent? 500m odd and where have we been hovering? 5th-7th in the league. What makes you think utd will suddenly be a force in the future. Utd need time after fergie, bullshit1t. Never seen a team spend so much money and boss 6th place, where as Leicester came out from no where and won the league and look at Chelsea turn it around over summer. The simple answer is Utd spent a fortune over the past 3 years and we should be in the top 4 easily and challenging Chelsea not be 12 points behind

Looking at your post history, you can stop pretending to be UTD supporter. Supporters from other teams, including Liverpool, are welcome here if they don't act like tools.
 
Wouldn't be so sure mate.

RM, Barca and Atletico are all rebuilding their stadia, which will cost a fortune. They don't have a PL-sized television deal or a sugar daddy, and United are well ahead of all of them in terms of sweating their brand and making money out of it.

Perez was able to buy up the world's best players between 09 and 12 (Ronaldo, Kaka, Benzema, Ozil, Di Maria, Alonso) at a total cost of about £250m. But how much would a similar roster cost today? £500-600m probably. And most of the top players are already tied to elite clubs.

Personally I can see the PL dominating La Liga over the next five-six years, as it did in the mid-noughties. But if the Spanish clubs get their own benefactors then maybe they'll be able to keep competing.

Well I can speak for Atleti as I do follow them as a second team if you will. Atleti are on the verge of being in big trouble again financially. The new stadium has been financed by a Chinese group (Wanda) and the Mexican guy Carlos Slim, who basically gets lots of shares in the club if they cannot make repayments. That means there will most likely be players sold in Summer to cover this. That's why I can see Griezmann going or if not him then it will be Koke or Saul, Possibly both.

So when you take that into consideration and the transfer ban still possibly being there, That will probably end Atleti's spell of being one of the elite European teams unfortunately. That leaves La Liga to be a 2 horse race again.
 
Doubt we'll replace him this summer. He'll last another season hopefully

We'll sign a CM this summer for sure IMO, Carrick will still be part of the squad.
 
AntoinON GriezMANUTD
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So many options with this one, not quite sure where to go. Sure does seem inevitable though.
 
Looking at your post history, you can stop pretending to be UTD supporter. Supporters from other teams, including Liverpool, are welcome here if they don't act like tools.
OK I'll just say UTD will get griezmann and UTD will be a force next year again just like after UTD's blockbuster purchases over the last 3 years cough cough mata, Di maria, Pogba, cough cough
 
OK I'll just say UTD will get griezmann and UTD will be a force next year again just like after UTD's blockbuster purchases over the last 3 years cough cough mata, Di maria, Pogba, cough cough

Yeah, you are possibly the least clever WUM we've had on here for quite some time. And that is saying something.
 
I'm pretty sure Balague wrote an article saying we weren't getting Pogba when Di Marzio etc were saying it was done. Think it was Espn or something
Yeah, he was famous for trying to dismiss every story stating Pogba's love for United and having unfinished business. There was a two week spell when every ITK bollocks and major news outlets were confidently running the story and Balague felt the need to be literally the only source on twitter to dismiss it and push the Madrid narrative.
He was being contrary due to his La Liga > all mindset and set himself up to be billy big bollocks if his based on nothing belief came true
 
Mhkitaryan ___Ibra___Griezmann
Pogba____Carrick____Verratti
Shaw___Rojo___Alderwiereld__Semedo
De Gea

Is that too much to ask?
 
Yeah, didn't understand that post at all.

Would you be happy with Griezmann? I thought you'd be in for Herrera/Carrick/Rojo replacements instead & a versatile winger to compete with Mkhitaryan/Martial.

Seems weird to change a working system to fit another player in.
 
Seems weird to change a working system to fit another player in.
Very weird indeed. Very weird to go for the best player in the world outside of Real and Barca, one of the best two players in the world in his age category. :wenger:
Our club must be mad.
 
In the last 3 years how much have utd spent? 500m odd and where have we been hovering? 5th-7th in the league. What makes you think utd will suddenly be a force in the future. Utd need time after fergie, bullshit1t. Never seen a team spend so much money and boss 6th place, where as Leicester came out from no where and won the league and look at Chelsea turn it around over summer. The simple answer is Utd spent a fortune over the past 3 years and we should be in the top 4 easily and challenging Chelsea not be 12 points behind

Well, obviously. But I think predicting we'll finish exactly 6th in 18 months time is massively premature. In fact, I'd guess you're just wumming.
 
When i think of the three areas that need addressing the most in our squad, number 10 is so far down the list that it makes me scratch my head. You've just spent half of your first season in charge riding out some poor results in order to find your best team in a system that works, do you really want to start all over again because a good player became available? Why not just sign some of the bolded players and follow your plan through to completion? I really hope we're not planning on using him on the wing or making Pogba Carrick's replacement and killing two birds with one stone.

-----------De Gea------------
Valencia--CB---Bailly---Shaw
-------------DCM-------------
-----Herrera----Pogba-------
Mkhitaryan----------------LW
----------Ibrahimovic--------
 
Mhkitaryan ___Ibra___Griezmann
Pogba____Carrick____Verratti
Shaw___Rojo___Alderwiereld__Semedo
De Gea

Is that too much to ask?

Yes.

No bailey, valencia or martial. Also your assuming shaw is suddenly going to come good even though he is currently behind blind and darmian.
 
OK I'll just say UTD will get griezmann and UTD will be a force next year again just like after UTD's blockbuster purchases over the last 3 years cough cough mata, Di maria, Pogba, cough cough
It'd be difficult to say United aren't doing something right considering we're in all cup competitions we entered at the start of the season, also Pogba's been an excellent signing and Mata, blockbuster? Don't be daft.
 
Yes.

No bailey, valencia or martial. Also your assuming shaw is suddenly going to come good even though he is currently behind blind and darmian.
A fit Shaw is worlds above those 2.
Would be hard to choose between in-form Martial and in-form Micky.
Agree on the rest
 
One thing that might make Griez feasible is if we're willing to listen for offers for Mata in the summer.

He is great and I love him to bits, but Jose is using him sparely as of late, and admittedly Griez is a fair few notches above him.

He would also fetch us a fair penny. Reckon we would get back what we paid.

I don't want him to be sold, but let's be fair here, Griez would be a significant upgrade.

Add in Rooney leaving and all the sudden we got plenty of space\need for a player like Griez.
 
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Hahaha not going to pay a world record fee for Griezmann only to stick him on the wing...but going to do the same for Pogba and shove him back into a 2 man midfield. Fine analysis.

Terrible posts like this are why we need to bring back the newbie system and not allow every drooler with a keyboard on these boards.

He came good for Juventus when they played him in midfield 3. He wasn't doing well for us until we switched to midfield 3. He simply couldn't work well for France as well when Griezmann was in the team and he had to drop deeper. He never showed so far he can play his best in midfield two so I am not convinced at all about that...



Than we limit our 89 million signing by doing that. Or we limit Griezmann. It can't work for both. Or we play diamond with no width which I doubt it would work.

Maybe something like this could...not sure though.

--------De Gea
--------Bailly Rojo Shaw
Semedo
------Herrera DM Pogba
--------Griezmann
Zlatan-------------Martial

Where Semedo(Valencia) would be very offensive right back to provide width on that side, while being covered by our DM signing when he bombs forward. Martial would play inside forward drifting to the left (similar to what he does now) to provide width there. Griezmann would be #10 and move into space left by Martial drifting or Ibra dropping and exploit it (he likes to do that). Bakayoko would be signed as short term backup for both Pogba and Herrera and long term upgrade on Herrera.

Mkhi would be 4th man for 3 forward positions though in that setup and would backup both Martial on the left and Griezmann. He would still get a lot of games but with Griezmann in you bench either him or Martial and Mkhi is not as effective on the left. Seeing how Jose played him in the middle and even as the left back, he could become some sort of very offensive solution in those positions when we chase the result in the game. Mata would be gone tho...

Either that or you spend 80-90 million on someone else that actually fits what we play right now.


I don't believe the team or Pogba will be limited as much as the hysteria suggests. He's a young hard working player who could easily learn to play in a midfield 2. His performances earlier in the season drew rightful criticism but anyone would find it difficult to play in a 2 alongside Fellaini/Rooney. Griezmann is much more limited in a wide position than Pogba is in a deeper one, and while his performances in a midfield 3 have been good it's never been enough to justify building an entire team/system around. Griezmann will almost certainly get you 20+ goals with plenty of assists as a 10 as well as being one of the hardest working attacking players in world football. If Mourinho does sign Griezmann i'm certain we'll move to a 4-2-3-1 and am happy to wager vs anyone that's the case if/when he arrives.​
 
Ballbag seems annoyed that the Griezmann deal has more or less transpired without him as the twitter interlocutor.
 
Ballbag seems annoyed that the Griezmann deal has more or less transpired without him as the twitter interlocutor.
He almost cried during the Pogba saga. :lol:
 
I'm not even going to bother speculating about this one, it's the most obvious thing ever.
 
So are we going to go back to a 4-2-3-1 to accommodate Greizman? Moving Pogba back into a two man midfield? I really hope not.
 
Would it work if we set up a system similar to what Atleti does with Koke? We could put Mkhitryan out wide and use him as a wide midfielder letting him operate from deeper, giving Pogba more backup to allow him to influence the game further up the pitch while also allowing Mkhitryan to attack as the ball gets moved deeper into the opposition's side of the field.

That way we could have Griezmann behind Ibra and it wouldn't hinder Pogba's influence. Mickey T has played as LB at times this season, for example.
 
We're getting him. For sure.

Hopefully we can move on Rooney, Young and Schweini as well. Some serious coin freed up there.
 
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