Antoine Griezmann
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This will get done.
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This will happen imo.
If Pogba gets the finger out and becomes dependable in a midfield two, we'd be able to play 4231 with Griezmann off of Zlatan. Martial and Mkhi either side.
We'd need to sign a water carrier for the midfield though.
If Pogba gets the finger out and becomes dependable in a midfield two, we'd be able to play 4231 with Griezmann off of Zlatan. Martial and Mkhi either side.
We'd need to sign a water carrier for the midfield though.
If we shod enough interest I think he will push for a move to United, being an United fan and all, his brother being even bigger one and so on.
Couldn't agree more. We have a wealth of players that can play his position(s) and, though this will probably get ridiculed, I'm not sure there is a huge difference between him and Mata. One just plays every game.
Things we actually need: LB, CM
Things we probably need: CB
Things we don't need: AM, GK
Genuinely would rather we signed a good LB or CM than Griezmann.
We will probably buy more than one player this summer.
Always felt like he was destined to become a Utd player.
Posts like this is continue to baffle me. As many others have said multiple times, signing Griezmann does not mean we won't sign any other areas. It is not a one or the other scenario. We have money, we will be getting rid of a lot of deadwood come this summer and will have positions to fill in the squad.
Not signing one of the world's best players in a key area of the pitch because we need to strengthen other positions is silly. If Jose feels he needs both, he will sign both. Woodward wants to spend cash and Jose knows how to manage a team.
Actually, if Saul is available, we should be all over him rather then Griezzy
feck it, let's just get both
Think of the potential options next year for our front six...
------Bakayoko-----
--Herrera---Pogba--
Miki----------Martial
-----Griezman------
Would love to see some of that
And that still leaves Mata and Rashford as subs!!
That's worse than our current starting front six.
Wait people think we shouldn't go for him because we have players that can play his position? So then why haven't those players scored us more goals?
Zlatan
Martial Griezz Mkhi
Rashford
Lingard Pereira Mata
Martial Griezz Mkhi
Rashford
Lingard Pereira Mata
Man, that's some firepower
No, it's because we don't have any use for players that play in his position in our current system.
Of course we do. Right now we are playing with Martial as LIF and Micky as ROM. Just change it around, put Micky on LOM, and put Griez in RIF. Would suite even better to our fullbacks, Valencia definitely being the more attacking minded, no matter if you have Darmian, Shaw or Blind on the other side. Griez would probably interpret his position close to a second striker, but that's no problem with Valencia as a runner on the right. Would be the absolute perfect player for us. When a player of that class wants to join us, we should be all over him without a doubt. Baffling how anyone could see this different..those players make/made the difference between Real, Barca, and the rest of the world.
If we sign Griezmann, there's absolutely zero chance he'll be rotated with anyone - he'd be a guaranteed starter.
If we sign Griezmann, there's absolutely zero chance he'll be rotated with anyone - he'd be a guaranteed starter.
There is little to no chance he is going to play every game in every competition, he is still human, he will get tired, lose form and deal with injuries like every other player.
He will get rest throughout the season is when I can see Ibra leading the line, or coming off the bench offering us a more physical outlet.
I agree with you, but didn't we say that about Ibra? And now look at him. Very rarely misses a game, and I don't believe he's been subbed once when he's started. Which is incredible when you think about it really.
If Ibra continues on his current trajectory, I can't see him being rotated/ rested much next season either. Which is why I think Griezmann would play just behind him if he was to sign.
Last year Griezmann played every league game (38), every CL game (13) and 3 cup games, + internationals. He isn't the type of player who wants a rest against a "minnow". Nor is Ibrahimovic..as you clearly see this season. Plays nearly every game, no feckin difference if Carling Cup or high profile league game. You can't rotate those 2, who easily can/want to play 90% of all games. 90%+90% is 180%.
I understand the concerns of fitting Griezmann in this team, but people have already begun to underrate his talent.
There's definitely a difference between Griezmann and Mata. Griezmann just finished in the top 3 for the POTY vote in 2016. Mata's never been close to that.
There's definitely a difference between Griezmann and Mata. Griezmann just finished in the top 3 for the POTY vote in 2016. Mata's never been close to that.
I mean if we are going to spend a ridiculous amount of money on a big player - I would rather us buy someone with different qualities. For example Bale - however unlikely is better suited to the PL and Mourinho's style IMO.
He was probably the most efficient finisher in the world last season, and we definitely need to improve our efficiency so you can see why we would be interested. I don't think he and Pogba get the best of each other though, Pogba is a combination of 8/10 and would need to improve quite a bit tactically in the next few months.
Alright to have Griezmann, if that happens, but then, who is playing in the centre once Zlatan is gone?
Remember Griezmann plays best behind a big target man, we have the best 'target man' in world football in Zlatan.
Zlatan with Griezmann behind is a monsterous pairing, talk about goals, would expect close to 50 goals in all competitions just from these 2.
Yes Pog plays best in a Midfield 3, Griez plays best behind the ST. But no formaction is static, player move about, certain players naturally play more forward/deeper than others.
4312 suits Pog and Griezmann.
In reality it won't be played like that, Micky will drift wide, Griezmann will play inbehind, Carrick drops deeper, Valencia drives forward as usual, so it roughly would look something like this when attacking.
Zlatan with Griezmann behind is a monsterous pairing, talk about goals, would expect close to 50 goals in all competitions just from these 2.
Yes Pog plays best in a Midfield 3, Griez plays best behind the ST. But no formaction is static, player move about, certain players naturally play more forward/deeper than others.
4312 suits Pog and Griezmann.
Ibra - Griezmann
Mkhitaryan
Pogba - Carrick - Herrera
Mkhitaryan
Pogba - Carrick - Herrera
In reality it won't be played like that, Micky will drift wide, Griezmann will play inbehind, Carrick drops deeper, Valencia drives forward as usual, so it roughly would look something like this when attacking.
Ibra
......Griez
Micky................................
...............Pogba..................Valencia
Shaw....................Herrera
Carrick
Rojo.................Bailly
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De Gea
......Griez
Micky................................
...............Pogba..................Valencia
Shaw....................Herrera
Carrick
Rojo.................Bailly
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De Gea
Mou's most likely banking on Martial being ready to lead the line by then.
TBF Ibra is an exception, he's a freak of nature. Also there's no knowing whether or not he will start deteriorating soon, I don't see him being able to play every game throughout a whole season for much longer, I mean he's already been rested a few times this season already.
I would be all for Antoine playing off Ibra, but if that is the case we need a very good player to slot next to Pogba, we don't have anyone defensive enough in the squad at the moment.
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I agree with this. Griezmann is legitimately a world class talent. As much as most of us like Mata (for good reason), Griezmann is at a different level. He'd walk into the first team of almost any club in world football, and certainly of every single club in England. If he can be had, then the club shouldn't hesitate. He's a creative player who knows how to score, is a great age, is seemingly a United fan, and would be a very marketable asset.
I have no doubt that Jose would have no trouble integrating him into his best eleven. Don't forget, the current squad is far from Jose's finished product. It's not a situation of simply trying to fit Griezmann into the current team / formation. There will be more changes in the summer. Unlike Moyes and LVG, Jose will have carefully plotted his transfer activity. If he wants Griezmann, he'll know exactly how he hopes to deploy him. I really hope this deal happens.
How much do you reckon he would cost. 60 70 80 90million?
It wouldn't even surprise me if we broke the transfer record again. We seem to be rolling in it.
It wouldn't even surprise me if we broke the transfer record again. We seem to be rolling in it.
If Jose sees Martials future being through the middle then we can sign him, if he doesn't we should steer clear.
Probably will be around 100million sterling by the time this happens, given the economic climate.
Can certainly do with him playing like shite to lower the price.
Atlético will not sell for an amount lower than the predetermined clause, irrespective of his form or performances over the coming months. They are unlikely to attract attackers of his class immediately to carry the burden of the attack, Simeone's future might lie at another club (which would create more uncertainty wrt. sporting prospects), they have to resolve the financial constraints placed by the new Wanda Metropolitano stadium (which could also lead to the reported sale of Saúl), and - they know full well that United is flush with cash and can afford the fee specified by the release clause. Atlético will be well within their rights to employ Athletic Club's strategy of not budging an inch, and selling him only for the Pogba-esque figure - a statement of intent that they will not be strong-armed into selling their best player(s) at a lower than peak market value fee by the financial elite.
You build the team around this guy if you can get him.
He can play with Pogba, we know that.
He can play with Pogba, we know that.
What is it supposed to be? They've just blacked out a section of the screen, and I see Pogba in the French kit. Make no sense to me.
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