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Antoine Griezmann
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I'm all for it as long as Jose has some sort of plan for him. Which, being one of the best managers in the world you'd kind of hope to be the case but I thought the same with Kagawa.
If we sign a midfielder to play next to Pogba in a 4231 it might just work, but we've only just settled Pogba in a formation that suits him. It just strikes me as signing someone because of who they are and not because of what they'll bring to the team. I'm just a bit sceptical really.
If we sign a midfielder to play next to Pogba in a 4231 it might just work, but we've only just settled Pogba in a formation that suits him. It just strikes me as signing someone because of who they are and not because of what they'll bring to the team. I'm just a bit sceptical really.
I think we will give him the 7 shirt as it's is now unoccupied!
He's doomed then.
I understand some of your concerns but Griezmann is really one hell of a player. I love Zlatan and it may seem that he is ageless but he somehow will be worse than what he is now. At some point his decline should start. I believe with our recent form and relatively easy upcoming fixtures, we will qualify for the Champion's League and we can not rely on a 36 year old to score all the goals. I was slightly worried that scoring goals would be a weakness of this squad. Yet, I thought we would have more goals from the likes of Martial, Miki and Rashford. They all had respective reasons but we can not take chances next year.
I am a little bit surprised by the number of people saying Griezmann is not that creative. He may not be dribbling past people like Neymar but he is still a solid creator. He also brings some of the qualities this United squad lacks. He is a good passer, which I think Martial and Rashford are not. He is a very versatile player to begin with. Regardless of which formation Jose will use, Griezmann will somehow find a place for himself. He can play all the attacking positions there is and he can satisfy all of those positions' requirements. Ever since Sociedad days, he played winger, striker, false nine, second striker. Forget all of this, he doesn't need the ball to create at all. He can simply create with his off the ball movement. As incredible as Zlatan is, his pace prevents him to sneak behind the defence. I remember one or two instances in Anfield for example, in which his pace killed of potentially good counter attacks. France and Atletico built their game plan solely on his lurking ability in some of the most crucial matches of 2016.
Unfortunately, Zlatan will leave one day. But, with Griezmann, Rashford, Miki, Martial, Mata and maybe Andreas our attack will be as good as 2008 levels.
A little off topic but, that still depresses me. We let Cristiano and Tevez go in the same window. We had practically best attacking squad in the world and we only bought Obertan and Valencia. I know both CR and Tevez were going to leave anyway, but we should have done better.
I am a little bit surprised by the number of people saying Griezmann is not that creative. He may not be dribbling past people like Neymar but he is still a solid creator. He also brings some of the qualities this United squad lacks. He is a good passer, which I think Martial and Rashford are not. He is a very versatile player to begin with. Regardless of which formation Jose will use, Griezmann will somehow find a place for himself. He can play all the attacking positions there is and he can satisfy all of those positions' requirements. Ever since Sociedad days, he played winger, striker, false nine, second striker. Forget all of this, he doesn't need the ball to create at all. He can simply create with his off the ball movement. As incredible as Zlatan is, his pace prevents him to sneak behind the defence. I remember one or two instances in Anfield for example, in which his pace killed of potentially good counter attacks. France and Atletico built their game plan solely on his lurking ability in some of the most crucial matches of 2016.
Unfortunately, Zlatan will leave one day. But, with Griezmann, Rashford, Miki, Martial, Mata and maybe Andreas our attack will be as good as 2008 levels.
A little off topic but, that still depresses me. We let Cristiano and Tevez go in the same window. We had practically best attacking squad in the world and we only bought Obertan and Valencia. I know both CR and Tevez were going to leave anyway, but we should have done better.
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Griezmann won't be sold until the ban is lifted, and I believe Atletico will still have the ban intact in the summer. Not even their bench players will be sold, and this is a premiss that their players have accepted.
He got a buybout clause at 100 million euros, and then some taxes on that. If we take for granted that United goes to CL, then it will still be a battle to persuade Griezmann to only think of united and leave capital of Spain, and a club who is established to fight on three fronts (la liga, CL and the cup). They are not necessarily on a position to be the feeder club to the rest of the world. I am not saying it is impossible, but since Griezmann is not Neymar, Messi or Cristiano, I think in United you have to think twice before going through such hell only to get Griezmann.
Didn't Simeone come out and say he can't tie anyone down? If Griezmann wants to come, I'm sure it will happen.
You sound like a Juve fans last year about Pogba. The word in the UK, from reliable sources, is that Greizmann has a verbal agreement with the club already and that includes agreed wages and even shirt number. We will also pay the buyout to bring him here.
What makes you think that he is unhappy in Madrid? Unless some club activates his buy out clause this summer, then it won't be a chance. This is an official position from Atletico, they won't sell anyone because of the ban.
I think you got provoked, take it easy now. As mentioned; it is not impossible. The whole point is about Atletico's odd position. Thinking that Atletico will be easy to negotiate with, with their biggest star, in a summer where they can't buy a replacement, would you truly believe that?
I agree that United is capable of paying the clause, which I also mentioned.
Not necessarily that he is unhappy, but he and his brother are both fans of Manchester United, he has quite a number of his french mates here and maybe he needs a new challenge.
Not to add, the uncertainty around Simeone could be a bad sign for some players, doesn't look like he's staying on for much longer.
Don't worry I am not getting provoked!
I have seen a lot of UK transfer speculation in my time but the Greizmann stuff is as solid as it gets. The understanding for the past year or so is that he wants to play for Manchester United.
I am not saying it is 100% but I do feel confident about it.
That is true, however, the challange is rather Atletico and their position because of the transfer ban. Simoene is staying until 2020, then he'll leave. Not that I have talked to Simeone myself, but that was the inofficial agreement before he renewed his contract, that he gets to leave after this period. Back on topic; It would nice to see Griezmann in United, for sure, no doubt about it. It will be an interesting summer indeed
That is true, however, the challange is rather Atletico and their position because of the transfer ban. Simoene is staying until 2020, then he'll leave. Not that I have talked to Simeone myself, but that was the inofficial agreement before he renewed his contract, that he gets to leave after this period. Back on topic; It would nice to see Griezmann in United, for sure, no doubt about it. It will be an interesting summer indeed
If this release fee clause exists in his contract then do they even have a say in the matter?
My bad, I am sorry mate.
Yes, I'd be joining the excitement, since my team (Sevilla) no longer would face Griezmann, but Gil Marin is firm on the fact that Atletico can't negotiate about anyone, not even the bench players. That is solely because of their transfer ban. But if United are capable of paying the clause, no doubt. If paying less than the clause? The challange is getting through Atletico.
I may be naive, who trust Gil Marin and Atletico for their stand point, but I don't think this is a facade, I actually believe it will be hell negotiating with them, and it is better off to pay the clause. Because selling players would also inderectly make them losing the trust of Simeone, so I think they value their tie with Simeone a lot, since he is their messiah. However, as you implied, crazier things have happened in summer transfers; this summer could be a proof on whether Atletico's board folds or not.
Nope, they certainly have not. They could always try to offer Griezmann a new deal in the summer, with higher release clause, but that trick usually never work.
You make some valid points, and I reckon United will have to meet the release clause, or be very close at least. I think it will happen though, mostly because Griezmann appears to have an affinity for the club.
No, but it limits how a purchase is done. The clause is reported to be €100m but there may be add-ons like development fees to be paid. You also effectively have to pay cash, whereas most normal transfers are done in installments. But no, they can't stop him going.
On a playing level, I'm still not convinced that Griezmann is our missing link, but maybe that's because I'm looking at how we play now and how he plays now, rather than how Mourinho would actually use him.
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There was an article posted a day or so ago stating that Gil Marin must sell to raise €160m that Carlos Slim's bank Imbursa loaned else he obtains club shares. Not sure how true it is, but if so, they'll definitely see their biggest asset.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...antoine-griezmann-in-pursuit-of-a7533251.html
He'll be 26 in march. From what I've seen so far. He isn't worth £80m plus. I think we should concentrate on other positions like LB, CDM, CM, CB and RB.
Interesting ! I am aware that they still have lots of debts, but that it has decreased over the past few years (that it is not critical). However, I have no insight in how urgent it is for them to pay back some loans, but it is definitely an interesting game changer for the summer
. I think they are moving in to a new, big, modern arena next season, lot of their money and loans have gone to that investment.If given the opportunity, then it is very likely he would join. With or without the affinity
Because Robinho liked Barca, Sneijder liked Barca, Modric liked Barca and Ronaldinho liked United and Real before Barca, Iniesta liked Real Madrid, etc. By the end of the day, it is about which club fulfills what he wants. Although there are only United rumours tied to him, so it seems that United are in pole position.What a player is "worth" has become such such a nebulous concept, though. The top players are so difficult to buy that when one becomes available they can basically name their price.
The one muppet signing that I actually don't want for the prices touted.
But if the club decides to go for him then I will be all in, posting hashtags and fantasy lineups non-stop.
Just not the part of the field or the type of player we should splurge another near world record fee on imo.
But if the club decides to go for him then I will be all in, posting hashtags and fantasy lineups non-stop.
Just not the part of the field or the type of player we should splurge another near world record fee on imo.
No, not worth it at all.....
You lot are mad, if we have a chance of getting him we should move heaven and earth, he at points, has carried that Athletico team.
GRIE7MANN sounds good to me:-)
How can anyone prefer to sign a bloody LB over one of the best attackers in the world. Clueless.
Ah feck, that could be an issue. Even for us, 100m upfront sounds a bit steep.
We do need to strengthen in other areas but Im fairly sure we will be doing that for the other problem areas as well so not worrying about ''we need to buy a LB/RB/new tea lady etc.''
While there could be an issue of where everybody plays if we sign Greizmann there is also the fact that the French national team has limited time together throughout the year so it may not be the ideal way of judging Pogba/Greizmanns ability to play together to maximum effectiveness. At the same club they can train together everyday and Jose and his coaching staff will be able to hopefully build the formation around both players instead of shoehorning one player in at the cost of the other. At least that's my hope and also all these endless formation debates takes away from the excitement
He has a release clause-we pay it and don't even try to negotiate for less.
While there could be an issue of where everybody plays if we sign Greizmann there is also the fact that the French national team has limited time together throughout the year so it may not be the ideal way of judging Pogba/Greizmanns ability to play together to maximum effectiveness. At the same club they can train together everyday and Jose and his coaching staff will be able to hopefully build the formation around both players instead of shoehorning one player in at the cost of the other. At least that's my hope and also all these endless formation debates takes away from the excitement
He has a release clause-we pay it and don't even try to negotiate for less.
No, people think that we shouldn't sign him cause we don't have his position in the team at the moment. No 2nd striker, no #10. And it's sensible to worry about the team balance.
Well, you don't field 11 attackers. We need great fullbacks as much as anything. His stats this season have been underwhelming as well.
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Will be funny to retweet once we sign him
No, not worth it at all.....
You lot are mad, if we have a chance of getting him we should move heaven and earth, he at points, has carried that Athletico team.
what we all want/wanted Januzaj to be
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