Antoine Griezmann

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If he wants to come to OT and the deal can be done, I'd say sign him. A huge talent and at a good age too.
 
Definitely want him, just hope it doesn't mean the expense of spending big in other positions. We could definitely use Griezmann, but our full back and CDM situation equally requires attention.

Then there's the issue of how to fit him in.
 
Definitely want him, just hope it doesn't mean the expense of spending big in other positions. We could definitely use Griezmann, but our full back and CDM situation equally requires attention.

Then there's the issue of how to fit him in.

We already get 40M back from Schneiderlin and Depay. It's easy to think that with one or two other we can get at least 50M.

And I'm still convinced that if we manage to sign him, it'll be inevitable that either Mata, Rooney or Martial leave.

Imagine 40/50M form PSG for Mata this summer, Rooney leaving for the US or China, et voila
 
We already get 40M back from Schneiderlin and Depay. It's easy to think that with one or two other we can get at least 50M.

And I'm still convinced that if we manage to sign him, it'll be inevitable that either Mata, Rooney or Martial leave.

Imagine 40/50M form PSG for Mata this summer, Rooney leaving for the US or China, et voila

I wouldn't want Mata or Martial to leave either. Mata I can maybe stomach if it's justified, but he's actually a very neat and tidy player and has been very key for Jose this season in terms of goals. I absolutely don't want Martial to leave under any circumstances.
 
I wouldn't want Mata or Martial to leave either. Mata I can maybe stomach if it's justified, but he's actually a very neat and tidy player and has been very key for Jose this season in terms of goals. I absolutely don't want Martial to leave under any circumstances.
Me neither but he does need to improve on what he has shown this season. If he gets back to last season's form then he will definitely play a big part for us next season.
 
I wouldn't want Mata or Martial to leave either. Mata I can maybe stomach if it's justified, but he's actually a very neat and tidy player and has been very key for Jose this season in terms of goals. I absolutely don't want Martial to leave under any circumstances.

I agree with you about Mata, he's probably our most decisive player since 3 years (bar De Gea), but I mean with Zlatan up top, Mkhitaryan an absolute beast when fit, where can we find a place for Griezmann AND Mata in a starting eleven knowing that to get the best out of Pogba, we need to play 4-3-3 ?

I'd say that
-------------------Ibra----------------
Mkhi--------Pogb-----Ander--Griezou
---------------New CM----------------

Or
-------------------Ibra-----------------
Mata/Martial----Antoine--------Mkhi
-----------------Pogder---------------
 
I would trade anyone in for Griezmann, because he would pull our team onto a new level. Close to Barca/Real level. He singlehandedly destroyed Bayern and Barca the past years in the CL and league, while having rather average players behind him (compared to the worlds best). He is the reason why Atletico worked their way up to where they are now, would've been impossible without him to play like they did.
Now here are some people in this forum who think Atletico is a better team then ours. Then we have the possibility to sign their best player by a mile, and we shouldn't take it? :lol::lol: That's pure madness
Barca and Real are not the worlds best because they have some good tactics or system, or even a good defense (in case of Barca). They are where they are, because they regularly splashed the cash for the worlds best offensive players.
 
Me neither but he does need to improve on what he has shown this season. If he gets back to last season's form then he will definitely play a big part for us next season.

I don't understand you people at all. Martial is 6 months younger than Luke Shaw. Everyone is willing to be more patient with him and his injury in hope he'll become a player we all hoped he'll be....rightly so. Yet Martial could be sold if he doesn't improve this season to the level of the last one? Mindbogling really...
 
I don't understand you people at all. Martial is 6 months younger than Luke Shaw. Everyone is willing to be more patient with him and his injury in hope he'll become a player we all hoped he'll be....rightly so. Yet Martial could be sold if he doesn't improve this season to the level of the last one? Mindbogling really...
I dont think he should be sold? i said me neither - in response to a comment about not wanting him to leave.

But he does need to improve. If he gets back to what he was last season he'll be a mainstay in the team. If he doesnt he probably wont.

Which bit of that do you disagree with, we can take it from there.
 
Griezmann is a fantastic footballer and can play in the right wing a bit but i should think Zlatan and Antoine should stay up front in a 4-4-2. They can compliment each other well and with the likes of Pogba and Martial, being from the same country and all can play to his strength and there is an added bonus of finding Zlatan still as our target man. I wish Jose gets to read this and makes plans for the future. haha i'm just joking, i'm sure he does.
 
On the Luke Shaw point, though, he lost a year with injury. So we're not comparing apples with apples.

Soooo, what you say is that Shaw has gone from being 6 months older than Martial to being 6 months younger than him? :p

Coat please.
 
Januzaj has 5 years of proper development before him, don't think the players have anything in common tbh
Januzaj had his chance and blew it. Not gonna be more than a mid table Mickey now.
 
City are the type of club to get into a bidding war for him just so we don't get him.

Remember when they made last ditch efforts to get Berbatov and RvP? :lol:
 
Januzaj had his chance and blew it. Not gonna be more than a mid table Mickey now.
I am not gonna defend Januzaj again, he might not play for us again, he's not the mourinho type player foremost and struggled being played out of position under Van Gaal and wanted too much going on loan to too strong Dortmund which didnt suit him either.. more luck and he could have progressed differently...

but whatever Griezmann played second division when Januzaj broke through in the first league in England, at 21 so many young players haven't played for big teams just yet, I am sure he will be a great palyer although perhaps not for Manchester United
 
City are the type of club to get into a bidding war for him just so we don't get him.
There will be no bidding war. There is also no Atletico Madrid denying the transfer. There will be no negotiations about the fee. Anyone who has an idea about the Griezmann situation, knows for how much he is going to come to us in the summer - and not to City.
I am not gonna defend Januzaj again, he might not play for us again, he's not the mourinho type player foremost and struggled being played out of position under Van Gaal and wanted too much going on loan to too strong Dortmund which didnt suit him either.. more luck and he could have progressed differently...

but whatever Griezmann played second division when Januzaj broke through in the first league in England, at 21 so many young players haven't played for big teams just yet, I am sure he will be a great palyer although perhaps not for Manchester United
Fully agree. Since he is fit again even in a broken Sunderland team he shines, and is their playmaker. Definitely showing more in those few games, then Pereira at Granada (which was IMO an awful decision to lend him there)
 
There will be no bidding war. There is also no Atletico Madrid denying the transfer. There will be no negotiations about the fee. Anyone who has an idea about the Griezmann situation, knows for how much he is going to come to us in the summer - and not to City.

Fully agree. Since he is fit again even in a broken Sunderland team he shines, and is their playmaker. Definitely showing more in those few games, then Pereira at Granada (which was IMO an awful decision to lend him there)
Mate, Pereira is doing great in Granada, he's one of their best players and he's learning a lot while playing first team football so I'd disagree here. It's also his first loan, Mourinho apparently monitors him and calls him after every game, he will come back stronger and he will get the chance not sure about Adnan though..
 
Mate, Pereira is doing great in Granada, he's one of their best players and he's learning a lot while playing first team football so I'd disagree here. It's also his first loan, Mourinho apparently monitors him and calls him after every game, he will come back stronger and he will get the chance not sure about Adnan though..
Not wanna derail that thread any further, but one last point to it. I know that Pereira is one of their best players, but the club is utter shit, the worst club in La Liga, and he can't influence their style of play. He has good individual moments, but mostly they puff out because his teammates are too bad to process it. It's horrible to watch, i feel very sorry for him. Must be really frustrating. A club a tad better would've really not hurt him.
 
He'll be 26 in march. From what I've seen so far. He isn't worth £80m plus. I think we should concentrate on other positions like LB, CDM, CM, CB and RB.

That old :eek:

Strange that all the positions you think we need @Zelalem do nothing to help alleviate our single biggest problem this season... goals. If we're gonna push on then Zlatan needs a player to share the burden with him, and this is a guy that averages around 30 goals a season in all competitions; add those goals to Zlatan's and you'll got a side that will challenge.
 
It's funny how obvious this transfer has been since last July.

I don't even doubt it happening next year, the question is who else is needed.
 
Not really. With Miki and Griezmann ahead of him, Pogba is going to be playing deeper than is optimal for him, Carrick or no Carrick. The middle of the pitch is crowded, the wings empty. Why spend a load of money on a player whose role overlaps with our three existing star players? If there's money to be thrown away, use it to get Verratti instead and solve an actual problem.

You've never rated him so im not surprised you can't see a place for him in this team
 
Excited anout the prospect of him coming but I'll take Alexis over him.
 
I'm starting to feel this is as inevitable as Mourinho joining us was this time last year.
 
Not really. With Miki and Griezmann ahead of him, Pogba is going to be playing deeper than is optimal for him, Carrick or no Carrick. The middle of the pitch is crowded, the wings empty. Why spend a load of money on a player whose role overlaps with our three existing star players? If there's money to be thrown away, use it to get Verratti instead and solve an actual problem.
Griezmann would solve an actual problem. That problem being our ineptitude at scoring goals.
 
What a player is "worth" has become such such a nebulous concept, though. The top players are so difficult to buy that when one becomes available they can basically name their price.

Not to mention that £80m isn't what it was when we sold Ronaldo to Real, for example, given the enormous increase in turnover/income for the club.
 
I'd love to see us sign him, if for nothing else just to piss City off. Him and Mkhi would play some exciting stuff. If Jose thinks he can get the best from him and Pogba together, let's get it done.
 
Not really. With Miki and Griezmann ahead of him, Pogba is going to be playing deeper than is optimal for him, Carrick or no Carrick. The middle of the pitch is crowded, the wings empty. Why spend a load of money on a player whose role overlaps with our three existing star players? If there's money to be thrown away, use it to get Verratti instead and solve an actual problem.
Pogba will always play quite a simple, unambitious role under Mourinho. Personally, I think that'll be good for his development anyway.

I see Griezman as more or less a like for like replacement of Rooney - with a good 5-6 years left. Win the PL and the CL in a couple of those years and that's 86m well spent.
 
Not to mention that £80m isn't what it was when we sold Ronaldo to Real, for example, given the enormous increase in turnover/income for the club.

Plus we've just made 40m of it getting rid of Memphis and Schneiderlin.
 
£86m. Sweet Cantona, how is he worth anything close to that?
Because he's a genuine world class player who's nowhere near his peak yet. Plus he's Atletico's star man and they obviously value him highly. What sort of price were you expecting? He will be a quality signing.
 
Even if he ends up not signing, it seems like Mourinho would definitely want him.

So my question is, how could we set up to get the best out of both Pogba and Griezmann in the same team?

From what I've seen, both are most effective when they're granted freedom as the main creative player
 
More importantly, will this thread beat Pogba's in terms of posts and views?
 
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