As much as I'd love to have him here I think we need to spend our time and money on a Carrick replacement. He hold's all the keys in our team and without him we are weak.
Antoine Griezmann
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Yes but they've all been performing for last couple years, Griezmann before he made the move to Atletico.
The issue is, we don't have to overlook Griezmann at the expense of having a world class team. Why not just have a team of world class players in the positions you need them in?
If you are playing a 433, not signing Griezmann doesn't mean you cannot have a world class 9, 7 and 11. I personally think Martial and Mkhitaryan can be world class performers left and right, but if you don't, I'd even have more time for he advocacy of signing world class wingers, or a world class 9 to play instead of the players we have. Just not players who specialise in a different role. Heck, upgrade as many players like for like as you want, but don't mess with the balance.
In the thread down the road, there are people who want us to sign Saúl simply because he's better than Herrera. Herrera doesn't need replacing, but still, I have more time for that. Nobody wants Herrera replaced with James though, and that's not because James isn't better, or because he probably couldn't play centrally in a three. He can, on both counts, but messes with the unit, which is counter-productive.
No negativity. I want pace up top and Griezmann is fast enough. He used to be a winger and has solid dribbling skills taboot. We are building a French revolution. When France next win a cup, they can attribute it to Jose
I really think Griezmann is much more versatile than we are giving him credit.
Also, using France as an example to say they can't work together... Really? Firstly, they made the final, hardly terrible. Pogba was played deep, in a role he was not used to compared to where he played at Juve. He was underwhelmed, but I don't see his role at United changing at all, regardless of who we buy. Griezmann honestly looked burnt out after a long season. To say they can't work together based on a few French matches is madness in my opinion.
Also, using France as an example to say they can't work together... Really? Firstly, they made the final, hardly terrible. Pogba was played deep, in a role he was not used to compared to where he played at Juve. He was underwhelmed, but I don't see his role at United changing at all, regardless of who we buy. Griezmann honestly looked burnt out after a long season. To say they can't work together based on a few French matches is madness in my opinion.
No. He's technique is pretty average.
Wow.
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Weren't sissoko and Payet the ones who got shoehorned into the team, and thereby ruining the cohesion?
there's a big difference in what you mean by technique, he's shooting technique is certainly great his ball control too, volleys perfect, but dribbling skills for a winger not world class but for a striker or second striker well good enough for a top team with his other skills
he's a little bit overrated overal here though, wouldnt mind him thou
For me, this transfer only makes sense if Zlatan leaves after this season. Which would be a very risky deal when he probably will score over 30 goals for you. Its not in any way certain that Griezmann, a smaller and maybe less suitable for the Premier League, will manage to that in his first season. Probably after a year or two if he gets used to the league.
I mean, if Zlatan stays and Griezmann comes. Will Griezman take Mkhitaryans place? Probably not. Will Mourinho play him to the left putting Martial and Rashford on the bench? Will he play them all with Pogba in a deeper role not as suitable for him? I have a lot of questions regarding this potential transfer.
I mean, if Zlatan stays and Griezmann comes. Will Griezman take Mkhitaryans place? Probably not. Will Mourinho play him to the left putting Martial and Rashford on the bench? Will he play them all with Pogba in a deeper role not as suitable for him? I have a lot of questions regarding this potential transfer.
Don't see how anyone could argue against getting a player who will consistently get us goals. You know those games where we are dominating and not putting the ball in the back of the net? Yea, that's where we lack a Griezmann.
I haven't really been following this saga, so is there any realistic chance this is happening?
He's not far off. His technique is above average, but nothing exceptional. Not Pogba level for sure.
Class player but how do you get the best out of him and Pogba?
Dybala played with Pogba at Juve and Greizmann can IMO play a similar role for us if we got him.
>Averages less than one successful dribble per game in his entire career.
>Good at dribbling
Pick one and only one.
> Technique is purely about stepovers and rabonas.
> Technique involves everything from ball control to flicks, volleys and shooting etc.
Pick one.
quite a broad statement. care to specify? I feel his jumping technique is superb.
I want him simply because he's honestly my favorite player. Realistically it doesn't currently fit into a Jose Mourinho side unless Martial/Mikhy leaves or Pogba plays a deeper role. Sure he'd play striker when Zltatan leaves but Mourinho likes a big striker and I think he'll opt to sign someone else after Zlatan.
You said technique not dribbling....
>Quoting a statement that clearly says: has solid dribbling skills.
>Obviously I'm referring at his goalkeeping ability too and I'm not talking exclusively about his 1vs1 with the ball.
And that's for all, I believe.
Not wanting to sign Griezmann because he doesn't fit into the current set-up is ridiculously short sighted. Griezmann is relatively versatile, still pretty young and is a marketer's wet dream, and to not sign him would be absolute madness. People have to remember, Ibra will be gone in a year and a half and if we don't sign Griezmann, we'll have to look for another top forward then.
This Summer is going to be hell. No major football tournament & Griezmann wanking
Oh, noSounds like my ideal heaven.
International football sucks anyway. It can go to hell for all I care.
If we sign Greizmann then obvious Mourinho thinks he does fit in to our formation or system or whatever else yo uwant to call it. I'm inclined to trust Mourinho when it comes to which players will be a good fit.
Mind you, there were people on here saying we shouldn't sign Pogba too. You have to wonder what goes through these peoples heads when they turn their nose up at some of the best players in the world.
Mind you, there were people on here saying we shouldn't sign Pogba too. You have to wonder what goes through these peoples heads when they turn their nose up at some of the best players in the world.
You do realise we have enough money to buy more than one player, right?
That's very simplistic though. You need to think of the other players too.
Like, should we switch to a 352 in order to mirror how it worked for Pogba and Dybala at Juve?
Juve didn't have Martial and Mkhitaryan to accommodate too.
It seems people don't get that not wanting us to sign Griezmann isn't the same as not wanting us to sign top players. We just want different top players.
I have no interest in us signing Manuel Neuer, for instance. I'd like us to sign Julian Weigl though. Both are top players. Griezmann is just another top player.
Nobody is saying 'I don't want us to sign Griezmann, I'd prefer us to sign a less good version of him like Robert Snodgrass instead'.
I just can't get my head around anyone wanting us to buy Robert Snodgrass rather than Griezeman... At least if prefer we bought noone if we didn't go fir a guy who is top five in the world right now and only going to get better.
So many amateur managers on this forum. Griezmann is a great player and if we sign him, it's because Mourinho know how he intends to use him.
Wrong. We are clearly restricted to 1 player per window.
I do agree, finding someone to replace Carrick is a necessity. But I think we will get one or 2 more seasons out of him after this season.
Well it's a forum, people discuss and share their opinions between amateurs. If Mourinho wants to share his opinion and post on the caf, he is welcome and we will read with pleasure what he has to share. Until then, we will continue to discuss and share our opinions without resorting to "You know nothing, Mourinho has a plan".
I think Griezmann would be a great signing both from a quality and marketing point of view - the combo of him and Pogba +/- Zlatan is a total cash cow.
However, I have my reservations on how he would actually perform in the EPL. He's played 15 La Liga games this season, scoring 6 and assisting 4. 4 of the goals came from 2 games and he hasn't scored in the last 6 or 7 games. This concerns me slightly as someone with his valuation should be romping that league, it's a little slower paced and less physical than EPL.
You think he'd be able to flourish in this league? Those are where my concerns lie personally.
However, I have my reservations on how he would actually perform in the EPL. He's played 15 La Liga games this season, scoring 6 and assisting 4. 4 of the goals came from 2 games and he hasn't scored in the last 6 or 7 games. This concerns me slightly as someone with his valuation should be romping that league, it's a little slower paced and less physical than EPL.
You think he'd be able to flourish in this league? Those are where my concerns lie personally.
He, alongside Atletico, have hit a slump in La Liga. Let's see how he recovers now the winter break is over, he just scored in the Copa Del Rey a few nights ago. His CL record this season is also pretty good - 3 goals and 2 assists in 6 group games.
Fair enough. Will have to see how it goes when they come back after winter. I'm just worried about the physicality aspect - Pogba wasn't a problem, he's an absolute beast, but Griezmann is a lot smaller, but then I remembered City rely on Aguero and he's not exactly Andre the Giant.
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