Antoine Griezmann

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Didn't Griezmann play as an inside-forward for Sociedad? I think he might work fine there for us, like in Ancelotti's "Christmas tree" formation. I might be thinking of a different player though.

------Martial/Rashford---------
Mkhi -----------------Griezmann
Pogba --- DLP --- Herrera
Shaw --- Bailly --- Smalling - Valencia
------------De Gea---------
 
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He's obviously class, I like him but it's going to be a nightmare trying to fit him in, especially when you consider that we're better playing a midfield 3 & attack with wingers. I'll rather have a pure #9, someone like Auba to replace Ibra & bring in pure wingers.
 
All our signings going ahead should be with the focus of Pogba as the main man of our revival. If any new signing means limiting him or restricting his role to something that isn't natural for him, we shouldn't go ahead with it.
 
Think he's a shoe in for Martial's position.
 
Lawman said:
No way Pogba is more that capable of playing in a two man midfield against the smaller teams!
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And then in the big games you shove who out of the team to play Griezmann out wide, in an unnatural position for him?
 
JPRouve said:
He likes Benzema who is a good athlete but isn't a big target man, as long as his striker scores goals Mourinho will be fine.
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Benzema is 6ft 2. Yeah, he's more mobile then your typical target man but he's still tall and pretty strong. Griezmann is small and lightweight in comparison.
 
Eckers99 said:
Benzema is 6ft 2. Yeah, he's more mobile then your typical target man but he's still tall and pretty strong. Griezmann is small and lightweight in comparison.
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But he isn't a target man, I mean that's an actual role that he doesn't play and never played for Mourinho.
 
JPRouve said:
But he isn't a target man, I mean that's an actual role that he doesn't play and never played for Mourinho.
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He can hold the ball up and link play though due to his strength and physique, Griezmann is never going to be able to do that and has been at his most productive playing off a striker that can.
 
Devil may care said:
He can hold the ball up and link play though due to his strength and physique, Griezmann is never going to be able to do that and has been at his most productive playing off a striker that can.
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But he wasn't used that way and Mourinho used a combination Eto'o-Milito where neither played that way, they were stretching the field and played with loads of through balls.

Edit: The middle was occupied by Sneijder.
 
Think some people think once your shorter than 6", you can't play up front.
I'm not convinced that Zlatan will still be a starting XI player next year. And I'm also quite confident w will stick with a 433.
 
Adisa said:
Think some people think once your shorter than 6", you can't play up front.
I'm not convinced that Zlatan will still be a starting XI player next year. And I'm also quite confident w will stick with a 433.
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If Zlatan stays, he will expect to play most games.
 
JPRouve said:
But he wasn't used that way and Mourinho used a combination Eto'o-Milito where neither played that way, they were stretching the field and played with loads of through balls.

Edit: The middle was occupied by Sneijder.
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Benzema was used that way under Jose at Real, he was the focal pivot that Ronaldo played off, just as he has been in the seasons since. You are right that his Inter set-up was different, and so was his Porto one, but as a rule Jose likes a strong, athletic focal point #9. Even if he didn't though Griezmann isn't a #9, he never plays that role for Atleti.

Adisa said:
Think some people think once your shorter than 6", you can't play up front.
I'm not convinced that Zlatan will still be a starting XI player next year. And I'm also quite confident w will stick with a 433.
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It's not so much what I think but what we've seen from Jose over his career, playing without a "reference point" as he calls it, in attack just seems unlikely to me. If he does decide 4-3-3 will be our formation then Griezmann would play on the right of the front 3 IMO, which I think makes buying him a risk.
 
he's not what we need but if a player like him becomes an option you want to get him on the train, imagine Pogba - Zlatan - Griezmann in one team, than fill that with players of top commitment like Herrera, Valencia and we are back in all trophy races..
 
Philadelphian said:
And then in the big games you shove who out of the team to play Griezmann out wide, in an unnatural position for him?
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Hardly an unnatural position for him playing wide in a 3! He could also operate in a 442 diamond he is a very adaptable player. Plus shove out the team? It's not a big drama players are dropped/rested in games nowadays all the time.
If it worked how I'd envisage it it would be
Zlatan
Martial Griezman Myktarin
Pogba Carrick/Herrera/new signing (1 of)

Bigger games if we want to tighten up I'd drop whichever forward player was out of form and go to a front 3 and add an extra midfielder.
 
SwansonsTache said:
All our signings going ahead should be with the focus of Pogba as the main man of our revival. If any new signing means limiting him or restricting his role to something that isn't natural for him, we shouldn't go ahead with it.
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Agree entirely, I'd rather we go for a quicker inside forward/winger than can offer this team goals and movement than another player who prefers a central role which would leave us narrow and unbalanced. In fact I would like to see us persisting with Martial and Mkhi flanking Ibra for the remainder of the season because if it works it would mean we only need to sign a central striker and some back up wing options. Also, imo, our investment and scouting efforts should be expended on a deep lying playmaker to replace Carrick.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Jose went for Griezmann this year and then Icardi next year.

I think Jose ultimately want's a 4-2-3-1 but our 10's are not what he wants. He likes 2nd strikers who can also contribute defensively. Rooney was the ideal 10 for him in his prime, but he's clearly seen that is no longer true. Griezmann fits that bill.

Icardi will be the hard working, good hold up striker he desires.
 
I don't really think that he will come to us even if he likes the club.

He would rather go to City or Chelsea rather than playing Europa League with us.

Then, there is Zlatan, so this would be difficult for him to fit in the team.

He plays as a second striker for France and Atletico and would be forced to switch to a wing for Zlatan's sake ?

Griezmann would shine with Zlatan upfront, but what about Pogba ? Should he play as a defensive midfielder in a 4-2-3-1 to accomodate him, like Deschamps does ?

The best formation would be of course Griezmann as a right winger, a la Mata, coming inside and letting Valencia and Herrera on the wing, but he would be forced to defend deep when we won't have the ball and, of course, the presence of Zlatan is never good for a striker.

But I would love to get him instead of Rooney, and unfortunately Mata too.
 
Chaky_Best said:
I don't really think that he will come to us even if he likes the club.

He would rather go to City or Chelsea rather than playing Europa League with us.
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Didn't know we're already in the Europa League next year. May as well stop watching this season.

Chaky_Best said:
Then, there is Zlatan, so this would be difficult for him to fit in the team.

He plays as a second striker for France and Atletico and would be forced to switch to a wing for Zlatan's sake ?
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He'd sign on a 4-5 year contract and Zlatan is here for one more season after this.

Chaky_Best said:
Griezmann would shine with Zlatan upfront, but what about Pogba ? Should he play as a defensive midfielder in a 4-2-3-1 to accomodate him, like Deschamps does ?

The best formation would be of course Griezmann as a right winger, a la Mata, coming inside and letting Valencia and Herrera on the wing, but he would be forced to defend deep when we won't have the ball and, of course, the presence of Zlatan is never good for a striker.

But I would love to get him instead of Rooney, and unfortunately Mata too.
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If we were to sign him next year, he can play in Martial's position as an inside forward on the left. Whilst he's not centrally up top, its still a position he can thrive in, whilst also rotating with Zlatan in the #9 role (who will be 36). After his debut year, he can be our number 9 for the foreseaable future.

We are the perfect club for him tbh. He'd be our main striker after Zlatan leaves, his brother (who is also his agent) is an avid supporter of the club and he has close ties with some of our players.
 
Do not want. Hopefully nothing in these rumors.
 
JJ12 said:
I don't understand opinions like this.

Blokes top 5 player in the world for feck sake.
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I love Griezmann and my inner muppet would love him at United. But my brain tells me that someone like Aubameyang is a better fit.
 
This thread is reminding me of the Bale thread when people said he was overrated and I claimed they were mad. Griezman is better than every player in our squad so of course if he's available we should get him. Also disagree wholeheartly with those saying he can only play CF. A player of his class can easily play anywhere across the front 4 without their game suffering. I think this transfer is as nailed on as any I've seen, everyone points to it in my opinion.
 
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-------Ibra/Rashford----
Griezmann--Pogba--Mkhy
-------DMF---Herrera---

I swear, for a forum where pace and direct football seem like the holy grail I can't understand how people can't be excited with something like that
 
Ishdalar said:
-------Ibra/Rashford----
Griezmann--Pogba--Mkhy
-------DMF---Herrera---

I swear, for a forum where pace and direct football seem like the holy grail I can't understand how people can't be excited with something like that
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The problem is that you put an expensive player in a position where he isn't going to be at 100%, it's a ridiculous way of doing things, you can't just chuck players on a starting eleven and say "it's okay, he is talented."
If we sign Griezmann we have to build a system that suits our best players and will make them play at their best level collectively and individually, so unless we play in 442 diamond, Griezmann isn't ideal for us and we aren't ideal for Griezmann.

-------Ibra-Griezmann
-----------Mkhi
----Pogba------Herrera
------------DM-------
 
JPRouve said:
I love Griezmann and my inner muppet would love him at United. But my brain tells me that someone like Aubameyang is a better fit.
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I understand that but to be emphatic about definitely not wanting him is strange.

If a player of his calibre is available it's certainly not a bad thing if we get him.
 
JPRouve said:
I love Griezmann and my inner muppet would love him at United. But my brain tells me that someone like Aubameyang is a better fit.
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Auba has spoken many times about wanting to play in Spain, I can see him going to Madrid soon. If he was willing to come here though then why not.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Auba has spoken many times about wanting to play in Spain, I can see him going to Madrid soon. If he was willing to come here though then why not.
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And Griezmann has spoken even more about the fact that he is spanish, latin and doesn't really understand or care about other culture. And want to stay in Spain.
 
TrustInJanuzai said:
This thread is reminding me of the Bals thread when people said he was overrated and I claimed they were mad. Griezman is better than every player in our squad so of course if he's available we should get him. Also disagree wholeheartly with those saying he can only play CF. A player of his class can easily play anywhere across the front 4 without their game suffering. I think this transfer is as nailed on as any I've seen, everyone points to it in my opinion.
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For me Pogba is better than him and France will not win anything as long as Pogba isn't the main man.

But yes I would like Griezmann here because he is a great player and he can play very well with Pogba ( like Dybala last season in a 442 against Bayern for example )
 
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