Antoine Griezmann

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Isn't his buyout clause somewhere in the region of 80 mil pounds? It's going to be an eye watering deal if it materializes.
 
I know some think he is reliable, but Pilib to me shows everything thats wrong about Twiter and the current journos transfer stuff. He basically says Griezmann to United is looking good, which is totally daft. A few months down the line he will come up with excuses, like no Champions league football etc.
Griezmann to United is possible, but he only posted it when Grizemann talked about moving to the PL and his brother tweets hearts etc...he has no infos about it at this point in time, thats why i cant stand the guy and his bullshit.
 
If Simeone goes to Arsenal in the summer I think he'll go with him.

I fecking love this guy but really can't see how he and Pogba would fit in the same team. Like, there is just no way that they can both perform up to their standards. I suppose the best bet would be Pogba alongside someone like Carrick (the dream being Weigl) and Griezmann as a no. 10 in a 4231 system.
 
I know some think he is reliable, but Pilib to me shows everything thats wrong about Twiter and the current journos transfer stuff. He basically says Griezmann to United is looking good, which is totally daft. A few months down the line he will come up with excuses, like no Champions league football etc.
Griezmann to United is possible, but he only posted it when Grizemann talked about moving to the PL and his brother tweets hearts etc...he has no infos about it at this point in time, thats why i cant stand the guy and his bullshit.
The guy just plays the odds. He said the pogba deal was dead 24 hours before we signed him, they just don't know :lol:
 
I know some think he is reliable, but Pilib to me shows everything thats wrong about Twiter and the current journos transfer stuff. He basically says Griezmann to United is looking good, which is totally daft. A few months down the line he will come up with excuses, like no Champions league football etc.
Griezmann to United is possible, but he only posted it when Grizemann talked about moving to the PL and his brother tweets hearts etc...he has no infos about it at this point in time, thats why i cant stand the guy and his bullshit.

Irrelevant as it might be, it will never cease to annoy me how a bloke called 'Phil Brown' has successfully conned about 80% of the Internet into calling him Pilib de Brun like some sort of bizarre ITK conquistador
 
I see Pilib de Bullshitter is back, and the transfer window is not even open yet...
 
Years of changing managers had left us with an almost schizophrenic squad which is unsuitable in any system. Take for example the forward line. We can play 3 over 6ft3 inches advanced players but we've got no winger to cross the ball at them. Our wingers are either no 10s or inside forwards whose instinct is to cut inside and score goals.

In my opinion we need to look hard at the team and shape it according to our strength. Our best young talent are Pogba, Martial and Rashford. These are the players we should be build our team on.

Lets start from Pogba. Juventus took the best out of him by putting a top quality box to box player and a world class play maker and allowing him to do what the hell he wanted. Pogba could move forward and cause havoc in the opponent's defence but he still had the brains to drop deep and help when needed. In my opinion we need to emulate that. Herrera is a decent box to box player and Schniederlin could the job as his understudy. If Mou is determined to sell the Frenchman then someone who adds more physicality should be considered (Drinkwater? Hojbjerg?). Regarding the playmaker role I'd go for someone like Weigl or Jorginho. He'll be the better replacement for Carrick. Such midfield will provide the balance we need between quality, movement, speed and workrate.

Most English sides are adopting a near catenacchio mentality against the top sides so I don't see the need to play a pure striker upfront as he'll be double marked out of the game. Instead we should go for false 9 who can provide us with plenty of movement who can leave his role and play into another role with two players on the flanks who ooze quality, they can switch in different roles and they can score goals. We've already have Martial, Mkhitaryan and Mata to do that.
Griezmann would be the perfect false no 9. With him upfront backed by the likes of Mata, Mkhitaryan, Martial and/or Pogba we'll have an extremely technical and intelligent forward line with players capable of slotting in different roles making our team impossible to mark. On the flanks I'll add someone capable of scoring plenty goals like Berardi. That would compliment our forward line brilliantly with Mata providing cover/competition for Pogba and Berardi. Lingard providing cover/competition for both flanks and Martial and Rashford doing the same for the left flank/upfront
 
If Simeone goes to Arsenal in the summer I think he'll go with him.

I fecking love this guy but really can't see how he and Pogba would fit in the same team. Like, there is just no way that they can both perform up to their standards. I suppose the best bet would be Pogba alongside someone like Carrick (the dream being Weigl) and Griezmann as a no. 10 in a 4231 system.

If we sign Griezmann the only way to play is like this:

-------------Herrera-----Pogba----------
Mkhitaryan--------------------------Martial
------------Griezmann----Zlatan-----------
 
Arsenal aren't signing Griezmann unless they end up losing Sanchez and Ozil through contracts. He's far too expensive for their tight wallets (they'd easily afford him if they didn't just pocket so much money). I see four possible destinations for him when he decides to leave (the next two years)

1) United - Hints of him being a fan since he was a child. Close with Pogba. We have money.
2) PSG - Feels like they haven't really spent as much in recent windows. Dunno if it's just their Emery accessing the squad over summer but I think they'll be spending big in the next few years and who else would be better for them to buy than a French Goal scoring machine?
3) Barcelona - If he were to stay in Spain he'd obviously go there since Real Madrid isn't an option. Messi's been pretty injury prone as of late and who knows what could happen with Neymar and his everlasting game of contract negotiations. If Messi can't stay healthy/Neymar bounces in the next two seasons it's a possibility imo
4) Chelsea - Just a feeling but he looks like the type of player who would play for Chelsea. Just an option if he wants England but for whatever reason we're not in for him.
 
Arsenal aren't signing Griezmann unless they end up losing Sanchez and Ozil through contracts. He's far too expensive for their tight wallets (they'd easily afford him if they didn't just pocket so much money). I see four possible destinations for him when he decides to leave (the next two years)

1) United - Hints of him being a fan since he was a child. Close with Pogba. We have money.
2) PSG - Feels like they haven't really spent as much in recent windows. Dunno if it's just their Emery accessing the squad over summer but I think they'll be spending big in the next few years and who else would be better for them to buy than a French Goal scoring machine?
3) Barcelona - If he were to stay in Spain he'd obviously go there since Real Madrid isn't an option. Messi's been pretty injury prone as of late and who knows what could happen with Neymar and his everlasting game of contract negotiations. If Messi can't stay healthy/Neymar bounces in the next two seasons it's a possibility imo
4) Chelsea - Just a feeling but he looks like the type of player who would play for Chelsea. Just an option if he wants England but for whatever reason we're not in for him.

He says that he is coming to England if he leaves Spain.
 
If United want him as desperately as they wanted Pogba then they'll get him. They'll pay what no other club can.

If they do, I think the idea will probably be to sell Rooney AND Zlatan, then play a more fluid free-flowing front 3.

Griezmann Martial Mkhitartian. With Rashford there as another option
 
The same 'Pilib de Bullshitter' who was spot on about Pogba, and the Moyes sacking.

This guy gets alot of unjust stick imo.
He didn't know shit about the Pogba one. He went back and forth all the time.

A week or two before the move officially happened, he said that the deal is likely to be called off or something like that.
 
He didn't know shit about the Pogba one. He went back and forth all the time.

A week or two before the move officially happened, he said that the deal is likely to be called off or something like that.

If you say so, the way I saw it he said it was nailed on, then when it went on longer than he thought it would he got a bit jittery, which would tie in with him been told that it would be done within a certain time frame then it stretching on longer than that, which by the looks of it that's what happened.

I'm not saying he has a hotline to Woodward, but he clearly knows more than some people give him credit for.
 
I fecking love this guy but really can't see how he and Pogba would fit in the same team. Like, there is just no way that they can both perform up to their standards.



Pogba and Dybala were considered as one of the best duo in the world last year !

Pogba and Griezmann can perfectly work unless the coach is an idiot like Deschamps ( Pogba CDM :wenger: )
 
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If Atletico are handed a transfer ban doesn't that outright kill any chance of signing Griezmann? Or are they still allowed to sell, just not buy?
 
If Atletico are handed a transfer ban doesn't that outright kill any chance of signing Griezmann? Or are they still allowed to sell, just not buy?

They'd be able to both sell and buy, but could not register any new players until the ban was lifted. I doubt they'd voluntarily allow Griezmann to leave anyway, so it would likely be a case of the interested club meeting his buyout clause.
 
If Atletico are handed a transfer ban doesn't that outright kill any chance of signing Griezmann? Or are they still allowed to sell, just not buy?
They are allowed to sell, but they will probably not sale their best player when they have transfer ban...
 
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If Atletico are handed a transfer ban doesn't that outright kill any chance of signing Griezmann? Or are they still allowed to sell, just not buy?
They can even buy players, actually. They are banned from registering new ones, so they can technically buy someone and keep him until the end of the ban to register and play him later. Absolutely no issues with selling their players too.

edit: hell, the caf is fast :lol:
 
Looking long-term, this front six should be able to win the PL and could win the CL:

Martial (21) Griezmann (26) Mkhitaryan (28)
Pogba (24) Herrera (28)
Weigl (22)
The numbers in the brackets are their ages in Summer 2017.
 
Question - why can griezmann suddenly not play on the left ? Has he not scored lots of goals from the left in his career?

Are we not learning that we are far better with three midfielders and two wide men ?
 
Question - why can griezmann suddenly not play on the left ? Has he not scored lots of goals from the left in his career?

Are we not learning that we are far better with three midfielders and two wide men ?

It's not that he can't, it's that he blossomed into a world class talent playing as a SS, it would be silly to pay another world record fee and then stick him on the left. I also think one of the reasons Jose is reulctant to go to 4-3-3 is that there's not enough firepower in our team for that, if you look at the teams that use the formation successfully, they all have one wide forward that is a consistent double figures goal scorer.
 
If we sign Griezmann the only way to play is like this:

-------------Herrera-----Pogba----------
Mkhitaryan--------------------------Martial
------------Griezmann----Zlatan-----------


erm no

----------Carrick----------
-------Herrera----Pogba----

Mkhitaryan--------------Martial
--------------Griezmann-----

Makes much more sense
 
Isn't he going through a bit of a rough patch at the moment, no goals in half a dozen games or so?
Hopefully that can drag the price down. Form is temporary and all that
 
Yeah, I mentioned it a little above. The overall stats are good enough when you consider his overall goal contribution count, but he, alongside Atletico, are having a really poor month or so of form.
 
Hopefully that can drag the price down. Form is temporary and all that
I doubt it. Atletico have an impending transfer ban, so they simply wouldn't want to sell their best player, without buying a replacement. It's his release clause or nothing imo.
 
Irrelevant as it might be, it will never cease to annoy me how a bloke called 'Phil Brown' has successfully conned about 80% of the Internet into calling him Pilib de Brun like some sort of bizarre ITK conquistador
It's like some bloke from the internet, who probably has a normal name like Nathan, or Bruce, getting people to call him CaptainBirdseye*

*Actually it's more like he's using his name in his own language, but whatever...
 
I doubt it. Atletico have an impending transfer ban, so they simply wouldn't want to sell their best player, without buying a replacement. It's his release clause or nothing imo.
I agree - his form will improve shortly anyway
 
Haven't really been following the Spanish League this season but Griezmann still has 9 goals and 6 assists in 20 games. A goal every 2 games isn't a bad record for a second striker/wide forward. Especially considering the notion that he's out of form. if his form picks up again, he'll easily end up with 25 goals this season and that's exactly what United need. More goals.
 
erm no

----------Carrick----------
-------Herrera----Pogba----

Mkhitaryan--------------Martial
--------------Griezmann-----

Makes much more sense

Jose isn't going to turn into Klopp or Wenger though, he likes his focal point #9, same as Ancelotti, Conte and Zidane, plus Griezmann isn't a false 9 anyway as his biggest threat is his second man runs off the striker.
 
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