Not sure if I'm more bored with this or Brexit.
Antoine Griezmann| Catalunya Radio say Griezmann to Barcelona is done for €100m
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Not sure if I'm more bored with this or Brexit.
Me too. Jose said it good. I want players who wants to play here. Griezmann wants then he doesn't then maybe then he he will end career in atletico then he wants to win something then atleti forever, then sends united related tweets , etc...
I want him here but really tired with all this. He is drama queen. And now we will have whole january again about him. I wish that we conclude this in january, either buying him or another player on his position.
If we buy him it will be for no10 role. He is not a winger, especially joses type of winger who plays defence
Don't want him. We need more creativity through the middle and he isn't the creative type.
We could get Fekir and a LB for what he would cost, so he can remain in Spain where the weather suits him better.
We could get Fekir and a LB for what he would cost, so he can remain in Spain where the weather suits him better.
We need an extra consistent creative Influence to help Pogba, and Griezmann is not that person.
A modric/Eriksen/Isco kind of player.
A modric/Eriksen/Isco kind of player.
Isn't most of people just talking through their rejected feelings from last summer? He's previously both been creative and scoring loads of goals.
Except for that he talks too much, I don't see why we shouldn't land him. Fits a similar system, efficient player, and he'd be a massive upgrade on both Lingard and Mata.
Except for that he talks too much, I don't see why we shouldn't land him. Fits a similar system, efficient player, and he'd be a massive upgrade on both Lingard and Mata.
I agree with those who say we need more creativity through the middle, whether a new #8 to play alongside Pogba in a 4-3-3, or a new #10 to play just off Lukaku. Griezmann doesn't fit either mould - it's a transfer that only really made sense when we thought we were getting Morata.
Rather than looking for a #10/SS we need to look for a CM/B2B to help Pogba. 433 is the way to move forward. Goretzka is the perfect fit, best of both. I just know that he will not be a player on Jose list unfortunately.
I don't think you have to be a typical playmaker to add creativity to a side. Lingard is no playmaker, but he often makes our attack look more cohesive when he's playing through the middle, and I read somewhere that he created more chances against Watford than any other player has in a single game for us in the last three years or so. I think that Griezmann would give us those exact kinds of performances that Lingard gave last night but on a more consistent basis.
Another turd that won't flush. FFS
Why would Jose buy a player for a formation that he's abandoned months ago?
I'm intrigued to know what you mean by that?
I think he means it’s one of those rumours that won’t go away. Another example would be the turd like rumour that is Gareth Bale, a turd the size of which would of probably killed Elvis, also known as the bastard.
1. he currently doesn't have the players to get the best out of the team in 433
2. The current system isn't playing as well
3. He hasn't abandoned that formation, Fellaini's been injured
Imagine referring to Griezmann as a turd when this whole place man for man was all cocks out this time one year ago at the mention of him.
So many people on here with hurt feelings, who has caused them more pain, their ex-partners or Antoine?
So many people on here with hurt feelings, who has caused them more pain, their ex-partners or Antoine?
Seems a good alternative to Ibra in the summer
Meh, we need a proper playmaking 10 and someone who thrives as a right winger. Y'all can have Griez.
I don’t mean to be his spokesperson or owt but I think that Pocco fella was not referring to the player per se but to the rumour itself. I could be wrong like and if I am, referring to anyone as a turd is hurtful and demeaning.
Can't wait to quote each and every one of you when he signs and tears it up 
According to Spanish press Jose flew to Madrid to speak to him the other day.
Doesn’t have Skype? Do not want.
Really wonder if his loss of form has something to do with the rumours that he regrets his decision to stay in Spain
I still wouldn't rule Griezmann out being both. He's definitely grown as a passer over the years (and his assist totals have too) and he is a left-footed goalscorer with decent mobility who I think could get 20-25 goals a season in all competitions from RW.
Not a perfect fit at either spot, but I do think he's a quality player who would be an upgrade for us a a 10 or a RW. There are surely better deals around, but I don't know if I trust us to find them, and while we'd love a De Bruyne as a 10 and an Ousmane Dembele at RW, getting a consistent goalscorer at both spots isn't the worst idea. Our creativity would still be a massive issue, but Mourinho prefers a more brutal style anyways and if Pogba was healthy and Griezmann had played the 1150 or so minutes that Mkhitaryan and Lingard have combined for in the Prem, we might well be on pace for the 100 point season City are, and that's about all you can ask for.
I think we will get him during the summer. Personally I hope we get both him and Ozil. I think they will put Griezemann out on the right where he will play in a free-role or a 2nd striker (think Mata at beginning of the season). Not sure if that is his best position, but I think that is where Jose will put him.
It’ll be one or the other imo.
Yep. Wouldn’t mind actually. Ozil is actually a great 10. If we can get him on a free, leaves money for Griezmann and the full-backs we need. Am intrigued also to see what we do to strengthen our depth in midfield.
Can someone who has watched Griezmann regularly explain or put up points about what exactly are things that he excels in and the weaknesses.Honestly i haven't watched him a lot and i can't really judge him by his highlights and is he really someone who we need and will make a difference?
Thanks!
Thanks!
He is not someone who we need as we need a hypercreative player who excels in keeping the ball in advance areas, linking the midfield and creating chances for the forwards.
Although Griezmann's on the ball play is neither the best nor the worst, he excels in link-up play, lay-offs, quick interplay and running in behind the opposition's defensive block - he his no dribbler. His greatest strenghts are his nimbleness, off the ball movement, anticipation and an uncanny ability to escape and run through the blind side of his marker on consistent basis a la Salah.
Futhermore, he is a good header of the ball, a prolific finisher in front of goal and he possesses excellent hold-up play far beyond his size. He possesses great ball-striking technique and is a dead-ball specialist too. He has all the qualities you need from a SS, but I doubt he has what it takes to be a genuine No.10 - vision and creative awareness are two things that eludes him.
A very good player to tbh, but he won't solve a lot of our problems as we lack a playmaker foremost and the kind of striker he excels playing alongside. He is another player that will keep making runs without being picked out.
Having not seen him much.. If we sign Ozil too,can we afford to have both him and Ozil in the same team?
From what I reads about him,he prefers to play as a second striker or a free role.. So can't see Mourinho ever having two players who do that in the team at once..
From what I reads about him,he prefers to play as a second striker or a free role.. So can't see Mourinho ever having two players who do that in the team at once..
It should be one or the other. Ozil is too good a playmaker to be shunted out wide. If you want a winger, there's many better widemen than Griezmann out there. There's no point spending 90m on him, just to play him in a position that makes him look like a glorified Juan Mata.
This shoe-horning has to stop, it has to.
Maybe his latest words mean come and get me? Maybe United have played down the interest in him after last summer so he spoke about us again!
Was gonna reply, but basically this. Good summary of Griezmann, although I think it's harsh to say he's not a dribbler. He's by no means a Messi but he's no slouch either. He's capable with the ball at his feet and generally is the one who initiates counter attacks by making runs from his half.
It was DON fecking BALON. They make shit out of their own arsehole.
He's capable of beating a man, but he rather link-up with a teammate and get beyond his marker than looking to take him on.
Ye we agree on that. He's capable for sure, but he was as good as he was the past few seasons due to his ability to get into the channels.
--------------------De Gea-----------------------
Valencia------Bailey-----Rojo----Young (upgrade)
---------------Magic----Pogba----------------
--------Griezmann---Ozil-----------Martial
--------------------Lukaku-------------------
That looks like one hell of team to me and a seriously good frontline. I reckon Griezmann and Ozil would flourish together with the movement they have. In order to work at its most effective the fluidity would have to be there in the attack but I think that's league winning standard all across the pitch.
Valencia------Bailey-----Rojo----Young (upgrade)
---------------Magic----Pogba----------------
--------Griezmann---Ozil-----------Martial
--------------------Lukaku-------------------
That looks like one hell of team to me and a seriously good frontline. I reckon Griezmann and Ozil would flourish together with the movement they have. In order to work at its most effective the fluidity would have to be there in the attack but I think that's league winning standard all across the pitch.
Yes, that's something I missed in the post. He is great at running the channels, but few of our players are capable of passing through the lines. A good player nonetheless.
He would improve us, but our current team wouldnt be able to use him to the full potential.
Most of our defenders, fullbacks included, cant pick a proper pass or be dangerous offensively. We dont have a reliable winger providing width and danger. And most important, we dont have a proper playmaking midfielder knitting it all together. We rely mostly on individual magic from someone in midfield or attack. In that scenario, Griezmann would be a bit of a waste. Buying Griezmann to provide the magic wont be enough
Most of our defenders, fullbacks included, cant pick a proper pass or be dangerous offensively. We dont have a reliable winger providing width and danger. And most important, we dont have a proper playmaking midfielder knitting it all together. We rely mostly on individual magic from someone in midfield or attack. In that scenario, Griezmann would be a bit of a waste. Buying Griezmann to provide the magic wont be enough
If you play with Griezmann and Ozil very close, you don't want Valencia but someone like Sidibé who is an actual threat going forward.
Yeh this is quite possibly true, although I do think Valencias attacking contributions are underrated.
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