Obviously I have no real idea, but I'd imagine we would appeal more to Griezmann to Dybala. No idea if Dybala would want to play here.
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Obviously I have no real idea, but I'd imagine we would appeal more to Griezmann to Dybala. No idea if Dybala would want to play here.
Anything to make Pogba happy , so that means Griez and Dybala.
Not very often, he also doesn't protect the ball or run with it all that well, his biggest strengfth is the exact same strength Lukaku has, running in behind, had we gotten Morata I'd have thought Griezmann a good fit, but we got a different type of #9 who needs a more creative #10 behind him IMO.
Griezmann is an excellent dribbler and although not as creative as a normal number 10 he is probably the most creative second striker in the world at the moment.
What a goal, buy him
Of course he has, but not on a consistent basis and his best works are done off the ball. He is not the type of player you expect to dominate with the ball, pick out passes and create chances. He rather lays it off, run in behind and latch unto through balls.
His peak perfomances came when playing off Giroud for france, a striker quite dissimilar to Lukaku.
He's not the kind of player we need in the team right now.
Great goal and an assist.
Wouldn't go that far. He relies on linkup play far more than he does dribbling.
Sign him up.
Just think of the one-touch interplay between Martial and Griezmann... before cannoning off the shins of Lukaku and out for a goal kick
I don't think he's a particularly good dribbler, most of the time he just passes it off quickly and makes a run for the box, he's not going to hurt packed defenses with his close control play. As for being the most creative second striker, Dybala is much more creative and I'd say Fekir is as well, I guess it depends who you class as a SS and who you see as a #10 though.
Just think of the one-touch interplay between Martial and Griezmann... before cannoning off the shins of Lukaku and out for a goal kick
Great goal. Shows how fickle the caf is that this thread has swung so wildly though. He's the kind of player that has a special moment in him. We need that.
This is probably right, but Griezmann has really improved his long shooting and passing so I could see this working well enough, even if it doesn't thrill anyone:
-------------------Lukaku--------------
Martial/Rash-------Griezmann--------
----------Pogba-----------Herrera-----
------------------Matic-----------------
LB-----------------------------Valencia/Young
---------Rojo----------Bailly-----------
I think this would just be more of what we have seen this season, we need more creativity added to this team, not more players who want to run off the ball.
Let me guess, the doubters think we should sign him now as he scored a good goal?
I agree, but I don't see suddenly signing a technically gifted playmaker like a young David Silva or Iniesta to go with Pogba and Matic in a midfield trio and an electrifying right winger to dribble and create from nothing like Hazard does on the left for Chelsea or Ribery did for Bayern.
Ideally, sure, we'd compliment our obvious starters by signing them and just pissing on everyone, but we're not Bayern or Juve and we basically never do the obvious and right thing and Mourinho probably wants us to sign Lacina Traore and Dan Burn anyways.
-------------------Lukaku--------------
Martial/Rash-----------LeftFootedHazard/Ribery
----------Pogba-----------Silva-----
------------------Matic-----------------
Evra-----------------------------Valencia/Young
-----------Rojo----------Bailly-----------
Haven’t seen too many flip flop on their views of him to be honest.
I think it can be done and even Jose can't be blind to the creatvie shortcomings in this current side, the moment Pogba is out we drop several levels.
-------------------Lukaku--------------
Martial/Rash---------------Pulisic/Oyarzabal
---------------Dybala/Fekir-----
------------Pogba------Matic-----------------
Grimaldo-----------------------------Valencia/Young
-----------Rojo----------Bailly-----------
I haven't seen enough of the Sociedad lad to comment, but Pulisic does make sense in that he's a proper dribbler. I've mostly seen him on the left, but anyone who can tie Kimmich into knots like he did is an interesting potential option. Are we sure he can turn and create from deep enough?
Fekir and Dybala being proper 10s seems solid enough, though I'd rather see us go with someone more comfortable coming deeper, if there's a playmaker like that out there, since it would free up Pogba a bit more and I think we need creative help even getting the ball to our 10s since Jose's teams are never great at that sort of thing. Similarly, when we play 3 at the back or a 4-3-3 or diamond with Herrera, Pereira or Fellaini in midfield instead of a winger, would they excel as the 10 behind 2 up front or struggle to get into games like Mkhitaryan has?
I think we need players who excel at turning and dribbling in the middle third more than we need guys skilled in the final third. Which is to say, a prime Iniesta would help us more than a prime Ronaldinho. I'm not saying your suggestions aren't right, but stylistically they probably make more sense than Griezmann in that sense. Quality is still probably the main issue, though, and if Griezmann wants to come here I could see him changing his style up a bit. He's already gone from a winger to a support striker to more of a 10. Maybe he'll get even better as a playmaker as he hits his late 20s.
I dunno I think Griezmann edges Dybala personally with Dybala being the better finisher.
People do realize that Dybala will cost at least 150 Million right?
I'd till takehim because of his overall package and finishing skills. Even if a better no 10 make chances for lukaku his finishing skills are not that good to take 9 out of 10 chances. He'll miss a lot of them. Griezmann can finish which is most important attribute in big games. He has an x factor quality about him that an good playmaker wont add.
Just look at his finish against roma and lukaku's miss against basel, the goal was their on the plate for lukaku but as always he hits the keeper, WHile city has a better finisher in gabriel jesus. We absolutely need a second striker who can play make on rooney's level atleast and not be over reliant on lukaku.
Take one goal in isolation proves nothing.....
If AG is such a great finisher why no goals in 2 months?
Take 2 months and leave the rest of his career in atletico?
Yes, its true that he has, but whats the adage "Form is temporary, Class is permanent"
There is no doubt that Greizmann really is a top class player, one of the elite, that shouldn't be disputed.
We used that line with Rooney.......
(but yeah, joking aside i get your point.) In todays market though i wouldnt go further than 65-70
Rooney was clearly past his peak years ago. He had lost so many of his physical attributes after reaching his mid 20s.
I think that's what we are looking at here.
The truth is that this guy snubbed us in the Summer. He simply does not want to join and some fans who believe in miracles need to focus their hopes and dreams on another player.
In a time where modern footballers are constantly criticized for being mercenaries, you'd think that a player actually staying loyal to his team when they're in the dumps would be applauded.
Let's see what happens next summer.
City can use Jesus because they have the 2 Silva's and De Bruyne supplying, we don't have that, putting two players together with the exact same strengths isn't going to help the £75M #9 we've already bought. Lukaku has his flaws no doubt, but we can't compound them, we have to try and elevate his strengths which requires a creatvie ball player behind him IMO.
Does he have the awareness and passing ability to excel in a #10 role?
In big games you dont get enough chances what ever playmakers you buy. Finishing and scoring unexpected goals out of the blue decide big moments in big matches griezmann is good enough to playmake as a 10 against 90% of oppositions. We need a second playmaker too as mkh is struggling no doubt. But we need a finisher as well , a striker who can decide big moments in our favour in ucl.
It's tricky I agree, but what we've seen under Mourinho is that if he uses 4-3-3 he's more likely to stick and extra defensive CM in the midfield than a creative one, while using a 4-2-3-1 in the bulk of the games.
Then Lukaku needs to grow into the role or we replace him, not make his progression harder by playing a non creative SS behind him.
It doesn’t matter where hes from, he plays in Madrid.
What makes you thing griezmann is not creative? He has better and direct throughballs in the attacking third. HE scored and assited vs roma on the both goals. For years we have used rooney devastatingly as a 10 , just when he started to get unfit his game became poor, If you need a play maker still nothing is stopping you from getting ozil on a free but world class forwards like griezmann can not be snubbed at all who bring that type of quality.
Because apart from pogba all we have is a defensive mid as options. Jose will look at a box to box player to bring in the balance like soler is or a player with good passing vision like fabinho with more time and windows.
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