Antoine Griezmann| Catalunya Radio say Griezmann to Barcelona is done for €100m

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Our chances of signing Griezmann were over when he decided to stay with Atleti in the summer.

I've been saying exactly this since the Summer.
We wanted him. We offered big money to him.
He said, "No thank you. At this time I'd rather stay put."
IMO, we need players who genuinely want to play for us and is going to be loyal to us (and not Atletico).
 
“Then I realised, after Sir Alex Ferguson left the club, the club lost interest in football. It’s money, money, money. It’s making money and that’s it. So the players, when they try and decide who to buy, they will meticulously say: ‘what will bring more money?’ They are not thinking of bringing joy to the fans. They are thinking of selling.”

Is this a real quote? Surely not - he’s basically ripping himself to shit.

Yeah, they didn’t buy me because I bring joy to the fans but because I sell t-shirts (which is pish anyway). I’m actually a shite player, but popular for some reason.

Utter drivel either way.
 
If this is true then we will never win a big trophy again. You cant just buy the players that sell the most shirts and expect them to gel. You need your water carriers as cantona once stated.
It's a load of bs imo.
 
Might be more expensive, but Coutinho will fit Barca so much better than Griezmann. I don't even know why Griezmann is being linked to barca - they don't need him.

Griezmann is a superior player to Coutinho. If Coutinho wanted to stay at LFC forever but you offered me Greizzy for Phil I would snap your hand off.
 
I won't be overly disappointed if we don't get him. We need a proper winger, left back, central midfielder and right back before going for another #10.
 
Might be more expensive, but Coutinho will fit Barca so much better than Griezmann. I don't even know why Griezmann is being linked to barca - they don't need him.

Messi has looked electric so far when played through the center this season. If anyone is going to miss out, it's Suarez. Unless he dramatically picks his form up, and soon, he'll be the odd man out. Griezmann looks like a comfortable fit for a LW that cuts inside on his right foot, à la Villa, while Dembele will be employed on the right side...Theoretically at least.
 
Messi has looked electric so far when played through the center this season. If anyone is going to miss out, it's Suarez. Unless he dramatically picks his form up, and soon, he'll be the odd man out. Griezmann looks like a comfortable fit for a LW that cuts inside on his right foot, à la Villa, while Dembele will be employed on the right side...Theoretically at least.
Yeah, onto his weaker right foot..
 
Yeah, onto his weaker right foot..

Well, everyone makes a mistake from time to time, i remembered a couple of well finished right footed goals and just filled in the blanks, i apologize. Atletico Madrid is obviously far from the top of my viewing priorities.

Still, i would hardly consider it crazy that Griezmann prefers to move to Barcelona rather then to Manchester United, especially if it is true that he would prefer to stay in Spain.
 
Well, everyone makes a mistake from time to time, i remembered a couple of well finished right footed goals and just filled in the blanks, i apologize. Atletico Madrid is obviously far from the top of my viewing priorities.

Still, i would hardly consider it crazy that Griezmann prefers to move to Barcelona rather then to Manchester United, especially if it is true that he would prefer to stay in Spain.
Heh no worries, Dembele's completely two-footed so it would just be the other way round in that front three. Yeah I can't say I'd be surprised either at this point.
 
Heh no worries, Dembele's completely two-footed so it would just be the other way round in that front three. Yeah I can't say I'd be surprised either at this point.

Yeah, i guess we'll have to wait to find out what will happen to Suarez in the end, it should be fairly clear cut in the summer at the latest. Cheers!
 
Griezmann is a superior player to Coutinho. If Coutinho wanted to stay at LFC forever but you offered me Greizzy for Phil I would snap your hand off.
When you play him through the middle? Of course. He's definitely not going to play through the middle at Barca, because of Messi. A Griezmann on the wing is just a glorified Juan Mata, nothing more. Coutinho will be so much better for Barca as a replacement and successor for Iniesta in midfield. Barca already have great forwards in Messi, Suarez and Dembele. Coutinho will be a so much better foil for them.
 
Where would we play him? Feel we'd need to move out a couple of players (which is no bad thing of course) but it is difficult selling players.

Mata/lingard most obvious, this would also put Miki in danger.

I do feel we need CM and a natural right winger/forward more urgently than Griezmann. With Shaw being offered zero chances, we also need a LB too.
 
Griezmann vs Coutinho makes no sense from Barça perspective as they are not like for like fits - of course, this board has generally demonstrated a lack of sporting understanding of needs and focused on stars

I would prioritize Coutinho in terms of what he could bring to the current squad
 
I think most including myself are finally opening our eyes and seeing that we don't actually need him nor would we get the best out of him. It was sadly desperation on our behalf (the fans and club) in the summer that we wanted world class players to try instantly fix the cracks.

I think had he signed we would've been disappointed by this stage in the season. The only problem that remains is, for the money we most likely have put away for him, who do we actually buy? And also, will the Neymar-tax still be a thing and rise again next summer?
 
I think most including myself are finally opening our eyes and seeing that we don't actually need him nor would we get the best out of him. It was sadly desperation on our behalf (the fans and club) in the summer that we wanted world class players to try instantly fix the cracks.

I think had he signed we would've been disappointed by this stage in the season. The only problem that remains is, for the money we most likely have put away for him, who do we actually buy? And also, will the Neymar-tax still be a thing and rise again next summer?
We need to stop looking at the star names, we need functional players. Jose had it right with Perisic, he wasn't fancy but he would have been great in our team.

We need to look for a right winger who will keep the width, dribble and threaten with shots/crosses. We suffocate the middle of the pitch far too much and that starves through balls, provides no crosses and stops 3rd man runs from midfield. If we had Mane on the right wing we would be absolutely flying, we need somebody like him.
 
I was certain we were going to sign him this summer, but I’m not so sure now. I also have gone off the idea of signing him, I’m not sure he’s the right fit.

So in the spirit of things..to the Dybala thread!
 
When you play him through the middle? Of course. He's definitely not going to play through the middle at Barca, because of Messi. A Griezmann on the wing is just a glorified Juan Mata, nothing more. Coutinho will be so much better for Barca as a replacement and successor for Iniesta in midfield. Barca already have great forwards in Messi, Suarez and Dembele. Coutinho will be a so much better foil for them.

When you put it like that yes Greizzy over Coutinho for us at Liverpool every time. But not at Barca I suppose. However, Barca will be fcked in a year when (not if) Messi and Suarez get too old like Xavi and Iniesta eventually did.

Simply replacing Iniesta for £130m-170m is not smart thinking considering Phil's not a Neymar or Messi level game changer. Or even a Greizmann level game changer. On a side note Dembele is a good buy, though.
 
Barcelona aren't the attraction they were 2 years ago. Not sure why he would even want to go there when they are on a downward spiral (and before someone says 'they are top of La Liga', that is more down to Real Madrid and Atleti crapping the bed this season). Messi, Pique and Suarez are all 30 and have already peaked. Iniesta will be 34 at the seasons end. They sold Neymar their future, so going to play with Gerard Deulofeu and Paco Alcacer is hardly the best career move. But hey if he wants to do that then let him get on with it. He has basically tarnished his connection with the Atleti fans now anyways from this past Summer.
 
Don't want him.
He doesn't excited me in the same way that players like Mbappe, Dembele or Coman do.

I would rather us buy Leon Bailey and Malcolm for probably about the same money that we would have to spend on Greizmann.
 
When you put it like that yes Greizzy over Coutinho for us at Liverpool every time. But not at Barca I suppose. However, Barca will be fcked in a year when (not if) Messi and Suarez get too old like Xavi and Iniesta eventually did.

Simply replacing Iniesta for £130m-170m is not smart thinking considering Phil's not a Neymar or Messi level game changer. Or even a Greizmann level game changer. On a side note Dembele is a good buy, though.
Griezmann might fit Liverpool, because you guys have natural wingers in Salah and Mane and need a goalscorer. Unlike at Barcelona where they play 433. Even when they play 4231, then Messi takes the 10pos, which means Griezmann is restricted to the wing. There's no point in paying 90m for a player and play him in a position that makes him look like a 30m player. They have already signed Dembele as Neymar's replacement; Suarez, although out-of-form still has it in his locker, Messi too. An iniesta or Xavi replacement to help them regain the ability to control games should be the priority - it doesn't have to be Coutinho- not a forward. Messi and Suarez won't be dropped anytime soon and Dembele is a no-go. So there's no place for Griezmann unless Messi or Suarez will be shipped out, which is unlikely.
 
Is this a real quote? Surely not - he’s basically ripping himself to shit.

Yeah, they didn’t buy me because I bring joy to the fans but because I sell t-shirts (which is pish anyway). I’m actually a shite player, but popular for some reason.

Utter drivel either way.

The selling shirts stuff is obviously b*llocks, but it was an odd transfer. I thought at the time that it was a statement signing - a case of Ed wanting to flex our financial muscle by buying a big name - just to show that we could. That's not a million miles away from what the bloke is saying now. If it's true that we're flirting with the idea of buying Bale, then that's another signing of the same ilk, as he's certainly not worth the kind of money being touted based on what he's able to contribute on the pitch these days.
 
I do believe his release clause is back to £92M for the winter (and summer again?) so no club is going to bid more than that. And there are not many clubs that can do it, especially in the winter.

That said there is nothing to stop a psg or similar giving him a 10, 20 or 30 million signing bonus personally as well so whilst the release clause may be set it does not stop very rich clubs offering up front incentive's to secure a deal.

With the new stadium etc staying where he is may be an option

I could see real and barca being interested

I could see PSG getting involved

Id love us to get him but i cant help but think that with him being french and his wide spanish any of those three would seem attractive destinations
 
I was certain we were going to sign him this summer, but I’m not so sure now. I also have gone off the idea of signing him, I’m not sure he’s the right fit.

So in the spirit of things..to the Dybala thread!

You mean next Summer?
In any case, you were not the only one.
There are many who absolutely believed he was coming to us in January, even though logically, this was a ridiculous notion.
There are some who probably still believe this.

I believed he was coming to us last Summer, but after he snubbed us, I knew it was finished and both parties would now move on.

I like to quote the saying, "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me".
AG fooled me last Summer and I won't allow it to happen again this Summer.
 
That said there is nothing to stop a psg or similar giving him a 10, 20 or 30 million signing bonus personally as well so whilst the release clause may be set it does not stop very rich clubs offering up front incentive's to secure a deal.

Just to be clear, are you talking about clubs offering Griezmann money or offering Atletico Madrid money? I believe we were discussing the money Atletico must receive in order for a transfer to happen which is his release clause and i doubt any team would pay even a penny more. Even if they do, other clubs won't have to so it will be down to the player to select his new team.

If you mean that clubs can offer Griezmann a ton of money so he signs for them, then you are absolutely correct.
 
This could be another reason.

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Di Maria was 'unhappy' at United
A former United translator has given two reasons why Di Maria was happy at the club.

Débora Gomes, told Esporte Interativo

“Firstly, he couldn’t communicate with anyone. And second because he realised the club bought him not because the club thought ‘oh, he will bring titles to us because he is a good player.’ No. Because they simply wanted to sell his shirts.

“This I heard inside the club, the people talking. ‘Di Maria sells T-shirts, so let’s buy him’. So he was not happy.

“Then I realised, after Sir Alex Ferguson left the club, the club lost interest in football. It’s money, money, money. It’s making money and that’s it. So the players, when they try and decide who to buy, they will meticulously say: ‘what will bring more money?’ They are not thinking of bringing joy to the fans. They are thinking of selling.”
Mercenary was bought and feigns surprise that he was bought as a mercenary. Proceeds to play the victim. Shocker...

Di Maria should feck off for good from our club.
 
Why using this Argentinian snake as an example and not the likes of Pogba, Zlatan and Lukaku ?!
 
Just to be clear, are you talking about clubs offering Griezmann money or offering Atletico Madrid money? I believe we were discussing the money Atletico must receive in order for a transfer to happen which is his release clause and i doubt any team would pay even a penny more. Even if they do, other clubs won't have to so it will be down to the player to select his new team.

If you mean that clubs can offer Griezmann a ton of money so he signs for them, then you are absolutely correct.
Yup pay the clause to athletico and then its down to the player to decide so if a club thinks his true market value is say 180 million in todays market they may want to offer him personally another 30 million to secure the deal
 
"To sell shirts"? Thought that didn't bring in much money.
 
I don't get it. They don't even play the same position/role.
Sometimes I wonder if these journalists even know who these players actually are, as in do they even watch them and know what position they play.
Or do they just take some sort of story template and change the names around depending on whos the most popular or relevant at the time.
 
Sometimes I wonder if these journalists even know who these players actually are, as in do they even watch them and know what position they play.
Or do they just take some sort of story template and change the names around depending on whos the most popular or relevant at the time.

Sometimes they dont even appear to be educated journalists, let alone having any knowledge about the sport they are writing about whatsoever :lol:
 
Makes sense though?
Get Coutinho to play a certain way or get Griezmann and alter their approach.
Similar to how people saw the Lukaku trasfer after we failed with Griezmann in the summer.
 
IMO the best team for him would probably be PSG or Chelsea. I've never wanted him here cause we have Martial, don't need any more reasons to limit his game time and that of Rashford. It's like the days when we had Rooney and Ronaldo, such youngsters are imperative to potential sustained success.
 
He's not joining PSG. We don't need him and he stated he didn't want to play for Paris before.

I reckon it's between Barca and MU.
 
He's not joining PSG. We don't need him and he stated he didn't want to play for Paris before.

I reckon it's between Barca and MU.

I sincerely hope he goes to Barca. He won't solve a single one of our issues, and that for a hefty lump of money.
 
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