For me the fee is irrelevant. People will say that a figure like that places pressure on the player to produce. But that's pressure to produce at united no matter what you cost. And if he can't handle that then he's going to have a very short united career and his career at the top won't be very successful.
Anthony Martial
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Yep, he has been stoned before he's played a game alright. He better score a hattrick on his debut OR ELSE.
I don't think it took him 2 years to get going; he went from a good player, to a very good player, to a phenomenal player. It was the natural progression of any great young talent. Most of us knew he was special from around game 5, but it always takes the media a few years to recognise young talent. It was the same story with De Gea who was also one of the most expensive goalkeepers ever at a young age: we all saw the ability, but the media tore him to shreds for every quasi-mistake, whilst Joe Lion-Hart was flapping around week in, week out and being let off the hook. Again he had the mentality and silenced the critics.
I also don't think people realise the level of inflation within Football. The fee for Martial is obscene, but if Van Gaal sees him as one of the most talented forwards in the world, it isn't as ridiculous as people suggest. When we signed an 18 year old Rooney for £29m he cost us just shy of our entire yearly gross profit; in 2014 our entire yearly gross profit was £130m and with the Adidas deal & Champions League, as well as the tens of millions taken off our wage bill I'm sure that'll be pushing £200m this season. Obviously this doesn't take differing wages etc into account, but it shows you the level of investment that as a club we're used to and shows up the truly laughable suggestion that we're somehow losing our roots because we're spending huge on a young talent.
What good youth players? Even if we have good youth players we don't have someone like him. Wilson maybe.
If we'll get one or 2 more attacking players we'll have that too.
I don't really care that much about the price. Imagine if the guy would have a stormer this season if he'd stayed and then great Euros, big clubs would be all over him and we would cry how come we didn't get this guy. So all in all sure price doesn't give him any favors but people are making too much of a deal about the price.
Januzaj, Wilson, Pereira, Depay - plenty of youth to mix in the with the first team.
We are panicking at the end of the window, and Monaco have robbed us. Any other team will also rob us.
You should care about the price, it's stupid not to. Our model for the last two years has been spend, spend, spend and we've won jack all. We continue this and we won't have any money to spend.
Stormer? I don't think so. What has he done to show that he may be a really good player this season or next? For gods sakes, he's played 60 games in his entire career! A 1 in 5 goal ratio doesn't warrant 36m. Plus, who else is even in for him? I don't see anyone else battling out for the new Henry?
We are not making a big deal out of the price. Neymar cost something like 50-60 million and he had an insane record at 21. This guy may cost up to a similar amount and he's scored 11 goals in his entire career, something Neymar did in 15 games in Brazil.
Can't wait to see this kid play, hopefully he can hit the ground running and give Rooney some competition.
Ok so you know better than our scouts, fair enough. You're certain he wouldn't have a stormer of a season based on all the games you watched him in.
And I think we will have money to spend despite the fact we have spent lots of money.
there's nothing official yet, and Monaco, the selling club reported the fee was indeed 80m EUR. We will see after there is a confirmation, but even if it is 50m EUR it's ridiculous. Who was the last player that has played less than 50 league games in an inferior league that was transferred for 50m EUR?
We have the money so who cares. Just hope he is good.
It's not like a selling club has ever spun that the money they are getting is higher than reality.
No, that's never happened.
Poor guy, he'll have that fee on his back from the day one.
We've told English press its 36m pounds, so it's up to who you want to believe. At the end of the day of Martial gives us pace and scores goals who cares if he cost 20m or 30m? It's so weird that people care about these things
Just because you haven't heard of him doesn't mean he's not a good player. I hadn't heard of Ronaldo when we signed him but fortunately the manager wasn't like you and we ended up with the best player in the world. Sometimes you take a gamble on special talent
Shocking, right?
But if we had lived in a time of Twitter/Facebook/YouTube when C.Ronaldo signed then surely everyone would have heard of him before that match against us.
Not sure if your serious, but spending that amount of money and hoping 'he is good' is insane.
Evidence illustrates that he won't have a stormer. Were Ronaldo and Messi great players at 19? No, they were great potential and had very promising starts to their careers. If he follows the career paths of either those two, then that's brilliant in 2020/21. However, we are sh*t in 2015/16.
@TrustInJanuzai This is a very, very expensive gamble. At 36 million, I expect this guy to be future world player of the year. Anything less, and he's a flop.
I hope he'll fullfill your high expectations.
Anything less he'll be a flop? Sorry but that's just silly.
Oh I so love redcafe accountants.
That's not high expectation, that's just nuts.
How is this insane in any way?
Or that, yeah.
This place!
since there is nothing official yet it's up in the air. It may rise to 80m EUR and 36m pounds up front, who knows.
even if it is 50m EUR is helluva lot money for a player that is unproven even in his own league, let alone Premiership. The deal smacks desperation or a Bebe type of deal and paying out commissions. And this is after we were dithering for couple of millions for Pedro. Does that make sense?
And why at the end of the window. The waiting for Monaco to go out doesn't make much sense as they've sold more established players for much much less this window - Kondogbia and Carrasco.
Silly? Not as silly as spending 36 million on a 19 year old kid.
Well after Di Maria and Falcshite I have learn't that regardless of price tag you just have to pray that they settle and do well.
I honestly couldn't care less how much we over paid for someone. It's not as if the season ticket prices will come down, so I'd rather just see exciting talent, regardless.
Not sure about that at all. He'd have probably been written off as not PL proven hence definitely crap and much worse than Duff or Cole.
Just like the price story about Pedro is in the air. Nobody knows if we 'dithered' over couple of millions. Of course you choose to believe what you want to believe.
Not silly. Ridiculous. Future player of the year or a flop. No middlge ground, just cause you say so cause of the fee.
Yes. Ridiculous.
As fans, that's all we can do. Obviously, this means we're also hoping our scouts are better informed than we are. Which is likely, to be fair.
I just look forward to what he does in the teams set up. Still no confirmation from the club though
He will be the costliest teenager of all time. That must mean something? We must expect this guy to be something incredibly special.
And, yes I was silly to say that he'd be a flop. But it'd be similar to Rooney, and his career. We expected more from Wayne and he never lived up to expectations.
I think we can all agree that - if the €80m fee is correct - then we've paid absolutely crazy money for a teenager who still has it all to prove. Even if the fee is only €50m its still fecking high for someone with his cv.
That said, if we've signed the next Drogba or Henry (which can't be ruled out just yet) then both sums will soon seem reasonable and the latter will seem like an absolute bargain. I'm just looking forward to watching him play.
That said, if we've signed the next Drogba or Henry (which can't be ruled out just yet) then both sums will soon seem reasonable and the latter will seem like an absolute bargain. I'm just looking forward to watching him play.
He didn't live up to expectations but had a good career nevertheless. Not to mentio records he broke and still has a chance to brake. Nobody ever remembers his fee.
He's a year younger than Sterling. Him being a teenager for the next 4 months is pretty irrelevant - would you feel better if he was 20? Age is a number at the end of the day. You're either good enough or you're not - obviously our people have seen something in him to suggest he's worth a large fee.
As for Rooney, he might not have reached the heights we all hoped/believed he could reach, but he's on his way towards becoming our top scorer of all time. Pretty good return on our money, if you ask me.
We're putting a shit tonne of pressure on Martial to perform, and if he doesn't, no one will give him a free ride.
If he flops, or doesn't live up to expectations, the fee will be remembered.
Sure. If. But if he comes good fee will be forgotten. Hopefully.
Only by people who can't move on. We don't even have an official fee. So people need to chill out.
This.
We spent close to 30 million on a teenage left back. And it looks like money well spent now.
Even at 36 million, it's a huge fee for him.
What if he was to be horrible (I hope not) this season? Should we then forget that we spent £36 million on him?
I just don't understand why people are so shocked by the price, £36 million seems like the going rate for one of the top youngsters in Europe. No one was criticising city for the amount they spend on sterling and they pain considerably more. The only reason people are even annoyed is because they haven't heard of him but you can't seriously think you know more than the scouts surely.
The final point I would add is with current inflation in the market a young Rooney would easily cost 60-70 million so I'm not sure how we can go mad over 36million
The final point I would add is with current inflation in the market a young Rooney would easily cost 60-70 million so I'm not sure how we can go mad over 36million
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