Anthony Martial

What do think of the (supposedly) imminent signing of Anthony Martial?

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Adnan said:
Maybe due to Monaco still being in the UCL qualifying
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What's that got to do with transfers though? Monaco sold a lot of players before that and they don't let Martial leave because of that?
 
If we payed £30m for an 18-year old Wayne Rooney 10+ years ago, then we should have no problem with the fee providing this kid can be world class.

With that being said, Rooney was closer to the complete article and I haven't got a fecking clue who he is.
 
dustfingers said:
What's that got to do with transfers though? Monaco sold a lot of players before that and they don't let Martial leave because of that?
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Is it that complicated to understand that selling clubs don't sell like idiots, that they plan in advance who can be sold and when?
 
dustfingers said:
Because this transfer looks at least possible to be done a lot earlier than being dragged onto deadline day if we had interest in him earlier. Unless there were other targets we thought were possible, it need not have dragged onto the final day.
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Well that's just speculation. As someone else already pointed out Monaco being knocked out of the CL could have been a big influence here. That only happened in tbe last week.
 
meh - looks like another Depay - not sure that's what we need right now. So raw and who knows how he'll settle into a 'proper' league (ala Memphis, based on his hype and youtube clips should be smashing in a hattrick every game for us!).
 
Hate the transfer window. We've become a laughing stock. Roll on 6pm tomorrow.
 
JPRouve said:
Is it that complicated to understand that selling clubs don't sell like idiots, that they plan in advance who can be sold and when?
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Of course not. So we were in for him earlier, were told to wait till play-offs and will only be let go if they fail to reach the UCL, and then we came back for him now. If that is the case, then probably there should not have been the "too late in window" cards being played. But if that is being played, then this UCL thing doesn't make any sense. I am basing this on media speculation only and from what I gather, Monaco are asking for more money or a player in replacement which doesn't make sense unless we approached them very late or they are just playing excuses to make more money.
 
dustfingers said:
Of course not. So we were in for him earlier, were told to wait till play-offs and will only be let go if they fail to reach the UCL, and then we came back for him now. If that is the case, then probably there should not have been the "too late in window" cards being played. But if that is being played, then this UCL thing doesn't make any sense. I am basing this on media speculation only and from what I gather, Monaco are asking for more money or a player in replacement which doesn't make sense unless we approached them very late or they are just playing excuses to make more money.
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Or just to make it look like they put up a fight? The weird thing is there were rumours Monaco were going to offer him up if they failed to qualify for the UCL before news of our bid even came out.
 
According to this His weaknesses are passing and defensive contribution . Which are a big no no to LVG.

 
What's the consensus on this lad from those who watch French football? I would have thought Lacazette or Fekir would have been the pick from France?
 
Cassidy said:
Or just to make it look like they put up a fight? The weird thing is there were rumours Monaco were going to offer him up if they failed to qualify for the UCL before news of our bid even came out.
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Well, it could very well be true. What I am saying is that us being for him earlier and then being told to wait till playoff and then finally approaching and then told to pay more due to too late cards doesn't make much sense.
 
Cassidy said:
Or just to make it look like they put up a fight? The weird thing is there were rumours Monaco were going to offer him up if they failed to qualify for the UCL before news of our bid even came out.
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Wish this is the truth. I don't know much about negotiations but as far as bargaining goes, its the exactly same tactic. Would be unsurprising if this is the truth and transfer should be fairly straightforward.
 
dustfingers said:
Wish this is the truth. I don't know much about negotiations but as far as bargaining goes, its the exactly same tactic. Would be unsurprising if this is the truth and transfer should be fairly straightforward.
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Either way don't see how we would have Hernandez out the door unless we were 100% this or something else was happening
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Well that's just speculation. As someone else already pointed out Monaco being knocked out of the CL could have been a big influence here. That only happened in tbe last week.
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Of course its speculation. What I am saying is that if we were in for him earlier than this too late in window card is either false or we were not for him earlier. May be this haggling the press is reporting is just part of negotiations or plain speculation on their side. The press reporting non existent negotiations issue makes sense.
 
dustfingers said:
Of course not. So we were in for him earlier, were told to wait till play-offs and will only be let go if they fail to reach the UCL, and then we came back for him now. If that is the case, then probably there should not have been the "too late in window" cards being played. But if that is being played, then this UCL thing doesn't make any sense. I am basing this on media speculation only and from what I gather, Monaco are asking for more money or a player in replacement which doesn't make sense unless we approached them very late or they are just playing excuses to make more money.
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No, Martial was among the non available players with Kondogbia, Bernardo Silva, Subasic, Fabinho and a lot of youngsters. All the other players were available. What I think is that United think that the absence of CL might have changed Monaco stance.
 
The comparisons to Rooney are off the mark. Rooney was obviously a one-off, a once in a blue moon talent who was destined for stardom barring injuries. Martial is probably a very promising player but if he was a Rooney esque talent we would all know much more about him. I wouldn't mind us buying him, it's not my money and we need something but it's so obviously an act of desperation if we pay 36 million pounds for this guy on deadline day when we were dithering over Pedro for 21 million a few weeks ago.
 
Cassidy said:
Either way don't see how we would have Hernandez out the door unless we were 100% this or something else was happening
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This makes sense. Rumors Hernandez was allowed to leave started to surface after UCL qualification were over.
 
JPRouve said:
No, Martial was among the non available players with Kondogbia, Bernardo Silva, Subasic, Fabinho and a lot of youngsters. All the other players were available. What I think is that United think that the absence of CL might have changed Monaco stance.
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yeah. It seems that Monaco were willing to sell once they failed to qualify for UCL and we let Hernandez leave right after that. There must be some connection between this rather than Hernandez being allowed to leave because he had one bad game.
 
LonelyFire said:
What's the consensus on this lad from those who watch French football? I would have thought Lacazette or Fekir would have been the pick from France?
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Good talent, not the best talent. It would be incredibly stupid to pay that kinda money for him because he simply isn't worth it, even in terms of potential. He is improving little by little (starter since January and recently called up for France) but the jump would be too fecking huge. I sincerely hope this is all a joke because Man Utd would be seen as an even bigger laughing stock than it is now.
 
LonelyFire said:
What's the consensus on this lad from those who watch French football? I would have thought Lacazette or Fekir would have been the pick from France?
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Martial is younger than both.

I was surprised that most people here haven't heard of Martial.I didn't follow France football much but I thought it was well-known that he's the next big hope of French striker.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Or the player's stance, perhaps?
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Possibly with the departure of Hernandez and the need of another wide option he's convinced that he'll have enough game times here to develop instead of sitting on the bench weeks by weeks like many other top club young players.
 
It's funny some people were reluctant to sign Kane because he might prove to be a one season wonder yet the numbers being reported here must be similar to what we'd pay for Kane for someone with even less than a season to point to.
 
Those rumours that Monaco want Rojo on loan would make sense considering his was one of Leonardo Jardim´s favourite players. Dunno if Rojo would want to move there though.
 
Drifter said:
According to this His weaknesses are passing and defensive contribution . Which are a big no no to LVG.

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Well he plays Memphis and Mata on the wings. I don't think he obsesses all that much about defensive contribution from the attacking players really.
 
MancFanFromManc said:
I like this rumour. As I'd said before I'd always prefer us to sign young potential over ' big ' names.
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Yes, but if we're paying £36m for 'potential' it's a much bigger risk than paying for an established player.

The word 'potential' is revered in football for ridiculous reasons, and has become more important than actual ability, it seems. Any player can get away with being inconsistent, not scoring enough, giving the ball away as long as they're young, because then they have 'potential.'

Potential didn't win trophies.
 
Woodzy said:
If we payed £30m for an 18-year old Wayne Rooney 10+ years ago, then we should have no problem with the fee providing this kid can be world class.

With that being said, Rooney was closer to the complete article and I haven't got a fecking clue who he is.
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Rooney still isn't the complete article. Chances are Martial will surpass Rooney in the 'complete article' stakes.
 
How would we line up "if" we sign him
Martial Herrera Memphis
Rooney

Or
Mata Rooney Memphis
Martial
 
Ixion said:
It's funny some people were reluctant to sign Kane because he might prove to be a one season wonder yet the numbers being reported here must be similar to what we'd pay for Kane for someone with even less than a season to point to.
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Yeah but it's possible Martial has the attributes that suit us more than Kane. Who let's be honest isn't exactly the type of player defenders would panic when he's running at them. As for Chico I thought a deal was on the table a fortnight ago?
 
marukomu said:
Hate the transfer window. We've become a laughing stock. Roll on 6pm tomorrow.
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Darmian, Schweinstiger, Schneiderlin, Memphis. Just because they didn't happen in the last couple of weeks doesn't mean they didn't happen.
 
I'd be amazed if we actually let Rojo go, but wouldn't that be indicative of the problems we've had in the market for the last couple of years? We go in for lots of players, fail to get our first choices and end up with a fourth or fifth choice. On top of that we overpay for him and throw in another player, not long off signing a new deal, and pay his entire wages for a year, which reduces his resale value the following summer. The player we bring in makes little or no impact, struggles to hold his place in the side and on we go to the next one.
 
Sly said:
Those rumours that Monaco want Rojo on loan would make sense considering his was one of Leonardo Jardim´s favourite players. Dunno if Rojo would want to move there though.
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It would make no sense for us though... our squad is already quite thin, I don't know why we'd want to make it thinner.
 
Sly said:
Those rumours that Monaco want Rojo on loan would make sense considering his was one of Leonardo Jardim´s favourite players. Dunno if Rojo would want to move there though.
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Can't afford to lose Rojo, that would leave us with Smalling, Blind, Jones & Paddy
 
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