Anthony Martial

What do think of the (supposedly) imminent signing of Anthony Martial?


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Panic buys don't really exist. You just can't agree a deal with player, the club, file proof of funds, medical and all the other paperwork within 24 hrs unless groundwork had already been completed.

Of course you can. Ed Woodward doesn't fill out the paperwork personally.
 
Absolutely not ! He's not considered at all in France. He's been called with the A because Lacazette is injured, because Gignac is in Mexico

Rooney exploded at Euro 2004 with his national team before and even played a season with Everton.

Martial played 2 seasons at Monaco, and is only a starter since last January....

36M£ for 6 good months `????

Sold Di Maria for 63Meuros and buy Martial for 55M euros

That's great

It would be incredibly stupid to spend that kinda money for him for sure.
 
Absolutely not ! He's not considered at all in France. He's been called with the A because Lacazette is injured, because Gignac is in Mexico

Rooney exploded at Euro 2004 with his national team before and even played a season with Everton.

Martial played 2 seasons at Monaco, and is only a starter since last January....

36M£ for 6 good months `????

Sold Di Maria for 63Meuros and buy Martial for 55M euros

That's great
Why are you stating nonsense as if its fact. He wasn't fired from Lyon they wanted to keep him but were forced to sell him because they were in debt. You say Rooney played a full season with Everton to try back up your nonsense and ignore the fact that Martial has actually made more club appearances than Rooney had when he arrived. You claim he's not highly rated in France despite the fact that he's been viewed as their future striker and as close to a certainty to make it since he was 15. I understand some people not wanting the deal but your claims are ridiculous.
 
Doesn't it make more sense to spend a lot of a 19 year old because of the fact the value is spread over their potential length of service?
 
If we buy this one, it will be a very first for me for as long as I've been "actively" following United. I don't recall that we've ever made a substantial purchase that I hadn't heard of before we were linked with the player :nervous:

That said:

50 m is fecking a lot but I always rated this kid since the first time I saw his name ( which was few hours ago ). If he comes, he'll be huge for us .
Don't worry lads, we got this spot on.Right ? Right? :(

I totally agree with fallengt :lol::lol:
 
Panic buys don't really exist. You just can't agree a deal with player, the club, file proof of funds, medical and all the other paperwork within 24 hrs unless groundwork had already been completed.
Of course they do, every deadline day you get reports of paperwork being submitted to the Premier League late and waiting to see if they will accept it. Plenty of deals get rushed through at the last moment.
 
Doesn't it make more sense to spend a lot of a 19 year old because of the fact the value is spread over their potential length of service?
Well if he turns out to be any good, then yeah. But if he turns out to be the new Obertan...
 
Of course they do, every deadline day you get reports of paperwork being submitted to the Premier League late and waiting to see if they will accept it. Plenty of deals get rushed through at the last moment.
Surely there would already be some form of negotiations going on before deadline day.
 
So we've only really got until midnight tonight to get this one done. If we don't then there's no way Monaco will sell him to us when they can't physically get in a replacement.
 
Had been playing for Liverpool for 4 years, 2 seasons a starter, full English international, played the world cup. I think so, yes.
Completely meaningless the moment you think of the calibre of players that have earned that distinction in recent times. But paying this much for an unproven player is madness really, these are the figures that you expect to pay for Benzema, Cavani et al and if you add ten million to that you'd get yourself Lewandowski - if ever they are available. Right now we need to sign a player that will come in and be in a position to make a difference, this kid no matter the depth of his potential is not that.
 
Panic buys don't really exist. You just can't agree a deal with player, the club, file proof of funds, medical and all the other paperwork within 24 hrs unless groundwork had already been completed.
Easy... You have proof of funds in seconds from the bank
Medical as we have seen in the Ozil transfer can be done wherever the player is
Agreeing a fee / contract in 2 hours is entirely plausible if you match both club and player expectations.
It's more the scouting and background checks on the player you cant do plus the player will have no time to look at houses schools etc before arriving and being expected to hit the ground running
 
Panic buys don't really exist. You just can't agree a deal with player, the club, file proof of funds, medical and all the other paperwork within 24 hrs unless groundwork had already been completed.
yes they do, deals have been done and dusted from the start to finish plenty of times on deadline days

falcao was done in a day

Harry has admitted to concluding numerous deadline deals in 24 hours
 
Maybe I'm just being too negative because negativity is surrounding us yet again after such a positive start to the window. :(
 
I follow football a bit and can honestly say I have never seen this guy play. If he is next Thierry Henry I dont mind us spending such a fee on him, but at 19 with only one season under his belt, in the French league, arent we better spending the money on Kane, at least he knows the league?
 
I'd rather play Wilson than sign this kid at the moment. At least Wilson fits the bill and the expectations on his shoulders aren't that high.

Can you imagine what the fans would expect from a 19 year old bought for almost £40 million?
 
Becose you can't agree all things in one day.

Still don't understand the logic, of course you can. It's amazing what can be achieved in a high pressure scenario. Do you not find this sometimes in your working life?
 
At the end of the day we need numbers

The club has fecked up by selling RVP big time and leaving it this late to sign an extra striker.

The need to bring someone in. If this guy is potentially great they will have to make the punt as I dont see any other alternatives right now

And for being dicks we deserve to get screwed for every penny Monaco want
 
Don't know if it's been told here but L'Equipe says Monaco won't sell under 70-80M€ or with an Hernandez loan. And since the latter is heading to Leverkusen...

Lyon would recoup 25% of the selling so Monaco pushing hard.
 
Just read on monaco forum a poll
Which of the three players would you least like to leave this summer?
They were ready to let abdenour and Kondogbia go but least votes were for martial. So it seems he is highly rated their. Most said they would sell him at 40 million euros/or would not sell him at all.
This pole was done when barca etc were linked with him.

Most are saying they should not sell as they cannot get a player so soon. The market in france closes today, they cannot buy after today but can sell till tomorrow to us. Most are okay with selling him above 50 million again. They would want chicharito as a ready made replacement. They have 129 page thread on him (one page has 10 posts max) they consider him to be the best upcoming french striker and most say they will not be able to keep him anyway.
 
Total meltdown on here. Even decent posters losing it.
I am very rational person and very calm on this forum but if we do sell Hernandez and not bring the replacement i will join the sell LVG sack Woody and ship Coleen to Terry group. One reason i was so calm was that i believed we will add something infront but the clock is really ticking now.
 
Just read on monaco forum a poll
Which of the three players would you least like to leave this summer?
They were ready to let abdenour and Kondogbia go but least votes were for martial. So it seems he is highly rated their. Most said they would sell him at 40 million euros/or would not sell him at all.
This pole was done when barca etc were linked with him.

Most are saying they should not sell as they cannot get a player so soon. The market in france closes today, they cannot buy after today but can sell till tomorrow to us. Most are okay with selling him above 50 million again. They would want chicharito as a ready made replacement. They have 129 page thread on him (one page has 10 posts max) they consider him to be the best upcoming french striker and most say they will not be able to keep him anyway.
That's pretty daft on our part to leave it so late.
 
Doesn't it make more sense to spend a lot of a 19 year old because of the fact the value is spread over their potential length of service?


Yes

But most people here won't get this

I'd prefer to buy a youth with great potential and hunger and pace than someone like Di Maria

Remember how confident we were when we secured one of the worlds best strikers on loan last year? Falcao was established and had it all
 
Definitely a gamble but equally one which could pay off handsomely.

He's rated about as highly in France as Memphis was in the Netherlands, albeit a year behind in development. Memphis has been bit and miss but clearly has the required ability level.

Martial looks to have a skill set which could really suit English football, and is comfortable playing on the right wing or up top, covering two positions in need of reinforcement. With Hernandez going we surely need another striker too, but I'm not remotely against this signing as some here seem to be.
 
Why are you stating nonsense as if its fact. He wasn't fired from Lyon they wanted to keep him but were forced to sell him because they were in debt. You say Rooney played a full season with Everton to try back up your nonsense and ignore the fact that Martial has actually made more club appearances than Rooney had when he arrived. You claim he's not highly rated in France despite the fact that he's been viewed as their future striker and as close to a certainty to make it since he was 15. I understand some people not wanting the deal but your claims are ridiculous.

Well said, Lyon even put a close that allow them to earn a 'significant' part of the future transfer fee.
 
Just read on monaco forum a poll
Which of the three players would you least like to leave this summer?
They were ready to let abdenour and Kondogbia go but least votes were for martial. So it seems he is highly rated their. Most said they would sell him at 40 million euros/or would not sell him at all.
This pole was done when barca etc were linked with him.

Most are saying they should not sell as they cannot get a player so soon. The market in france closes today, they cannot buy after today but can sell till tomorrow to us. Most are okay with selling him above 50 million again. They would want chicharito as a ready made replacement. They have 129 page thread on him (one page has 10 posts max) they consider him to be the best upcoming french striker and most say they will not be able to keep him anyway.
Kinda makes you wonder why we left it this late then? Would have made more sense to get him signed earlier unless it is a panic buy.
 
Kinda makes you wonder why we left it this late then? Would have made more sense to get him signed earlier unless it is a panic buy.

It's been left this late because he's at least 4th or 5th choice. We've given up on our first choices

This fact is so self-evident that it shouldn't need saying
 
How are we being held to ransom? We are prepared to pay the asking price, we could have gone for other targets. We steadfastly refuse to cave in to Real Madrid's demands for DDG.....I could go on.

No, the responsibility lies with us
If the price keeps going up we are being held to ransom. They know we are desperate.
 
Just read on monaco forum a poll
Which of the three players would you least like to leave this summer?
They were ready to let abdenour and Kondogbia go but least votes were for martial. So it seems he is highly rated their. Most said they would sell him at 40 million euros/or would not sell him at all.
This pole was done when barca etc were linked with him.
Not exactly the same but I imagine if we'd had a poll on here back on May who would you least like to leave Falcao, RVP, Hernandez or Wilson that Wilson would win that poll.
 
Definitely a gamble but equally one which could pay off handsomely.

He's rated about as highly in France as Memphis was in the Netherlands, albeit a year behind in development. Memphis has been bit and miss but clearly has the required ability level.

Martial looks to have a skill set which could really suit English football, and is comfortable playing on the right wing or up top, covering two positions in need of reinforcement. With Hernandez going we surely need another striker too, but I'm not remotely against this signing as some here seem to be.

Skimming the thread, a lot of the nay-saying is the standard transfer muppet bollox where some caftard has an opinion on a player's value and paying anything more than that fee = bad signing.

We need a striker and, personally, I much prefer signing up and coming young stars like Depay or Shaw rather than players like Di Maria and Falcao. You might not get an immediate return but the long term rewards are far greater. If he's good enough, I couldn't care less how much we spend. We're certainly flush with cash right now.
 
Not exactly the same but I imagine if we'd had a poll on here back on May who would you least like to leave Falcao, RVP, Hernandez or Wilson that Wilson would win that poll.

Your choice of player is poor, De Gea, Wilson and Herrera would have been more accurate.
 
Too late in the game for Griezmann. Paperwork alone would need at least 24 hours to clear Spanish authorities not to mention Madrid bringing out a red carpet and Griezmann instantly meeting with us and agreeing an offer. But yes, Griezmann would have been the ideal over 20 goal a season striker.
The 20 goals is precisely what we need. yes this kid might be good, but to me no amount of pace is any good if your main striker is too slow and has the touch of an elephant.
 
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