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No assist. Pogba pen was saved.
Even if Pogba scores from penalty spot, it wouldn't have counted as assist except by transfermarkt site.
No assist. Pogba pen was saved.
Are you really surprised? I'm not sure it was a penalty, but I think it's one of those properly debatable ones. The defender got a touch on the ball, but got more of the player, and even after he touched it, it was still in play, in the direction Martial was running. Martial is apparently then supposed to make every effort to avoid losing his balance (which he clearly lost just before the arms went up)... and the attack was impeded. The actual fall was exaggerated, but that's a two-way street. Players exaggerated reactions to contact are a direct result of officials not giving fouls when they feel there hasn't been enough contact. Now that players go down the way they do, the threshold for theatrics has been raised quite a bit. VAR done well would solve both problems.
Something I did find very interesting though, the 3 ex-pros in the Sky studio all said it was a good tackle, and both the referee on the pitch and the one in the studio said it was a penalty.
None of that is true.
You are conflating 'getting in behind' with movement. He used to beat defences for pace off through balls. But attacking the space so as to receive a ball on the run was NOT his thing. He'd always wait to receive and then take off.In his first season his movement was very good
He used to get in behind defences a lot.
He now always wants the ball to feet....
Did you pay actual attention to his runs? He'd make a run, receive the ball on the move and not just run at the player, he'd attack the space. It's another reason why he doesn't run smack into a standing player as much like happened oft the second half of last season, in an attempt to dribble.Even today how many times did he actually attack the space? He got the ball played to feet and he went at the defence
I'm pretty sure he was so disappointed with himself about that miss and took his time griefing after the final whistle.
Nice stuff to see. Well Martial, you can get back up and score the next one for us!
Can't stand this guy
What really took a long time was him getting it through his thick head that the squads most promising and gifted attacker deserved a solid run of games to play himself back into form. It's like Jose forgot about his form under LvG
Shame it took so long,Alexis doesn't ever deserve to start on the left over him again
You are conflating 'getting in behind' with movement. He used to beat defences for pace off through balls. But attacking the space so as to receive a ball on the run was NOT his thing. He'd always wait to receive and then take off.
He has ALWAYS wanted balls to feet. Now he even attacks the space to receive the ball. Before he'd wait for it to reach him, then go
Did you pay actual attention to his runs? He'd make a run, receive the ball on the move and not just run at the player, he'd attack the space. It's another reason why he doesn't run smack into a standing player as much like happened oft the second half of last season, in an attempt to dribble.
How he won the penalty is proof. He forced the defender to abandon his attempt at a stationary defence stance forcing him into a foul, by attacking the space either side as he ran at him. Previously he'd have tried to plain go through him with his skill as if dribbling around an obstacle course. Which previously was too reliant on his confidence and form levels to consistently execute.
He's playing the same way now as he was last season prior to Sanchez's arrival (ok maybe he's slightly better right now given the 2 goals at Chelsea and another yesterday but still)
It was a penalty.Thought it was a blatant penalty tbh. The ball bounces off the defender, saying he got a touch or won the ball is pretty disingenuous imo. I'm not even sure how its relevant, getting the ball hasn't been enough to justify a foul for about 20 years or something. Martial was the the overwhelming favourite to retain possession if the defender doesn't block him.
Never agreed with this notion. At best he's an inside forward.Would love to see him upfront. He's made for it.
The other week after a bad Martial game Jose implied that's what the fans were begging for for months almost as if to throw it back their in their faces. Now it's being painted as masterclass man management. I can't even . I'll give him credit for benching Lukaku though. Before Martial had to beat his man, the winger and whatever CB Lukaku was hiding behindThe whole situation has been a waste of everyone's time. Martial's current form could have been achieved earlier if Mourinho wasn't so stubborn with Sanchez at first.
Good to see. Hope it continues..Looks a different man in terms of effort and application.
Never agreed with this notion. At best he's an inside forward.
He's at his best when he is one on one with the RCB or RB. I don't think he would get into that position enough as a striker.
Yup. Mourinho can be a big baby at timesThe other week after a bad Martial game Jose implied that's what the fans were begging for for months almost as if to throw it back their in their faces. Now it's being painted as masterclass man management. I can't even . I'll give him credit for benching Lukaku though. Before Martial had to beat his man, the winger and whatever CB Lukaku was hiding behind
So are people finally going to admit he can work fine in Jose's system then?
When he wasn't starting we started to see lots of bollocks arguments about him not making it here due to poor instruction blah blah blah. All bollocks
This.Those anti-mourinho bunch must be so confused today
Bet they will be looking for another angle to bitch at Jose. Who needs the ABU media when you have fans like these
No choice now that Martial is proving himself unsellable. Jose fans now have to revise the narrative they've been pushing themselves for monthsImagine trying to bend martials recent form into a positive from mourinho........
I'm guessing he and Shaw are flukes right? Playing well because they know big bad Jose is gone by seasons end?Imagine trying to bend martials recent form into a positive from mourinho........
Imagine trying to bend martials recent form into a positive from mourinho........
Amazing that some people can still give Mourinho credit for taking 3 years to get Martial to the level he was at before he was manager. Frankly, it's a bit of a joke.Imagine trying to bend martials recent form into a positive from mourinho........
I'm guessing he and Shaw are flukes right? Playing well because they know big bad Jose is gone by seasons end?
Those anti-mourinho bunch must be so confused today
Bet they will be looking for another angle to bitch at Jose. Who needs the ABU media when you have fans like these
Or you know you can be a sensible person and say that the manager and player have worked together to come this point.
What's the point in such black and white thinking? So you can create an us vs them situation based on a tribalistic idea?
Some people say that Martial playing badly is the managers fault, but then say that him playing well is his own doing and vice versa. That doesn't make sense, it's logically inconsistent.
No it's Jose that finally showed patience with Martial. We already knew he could work fine in Jose system in January this year actually. Before Sanchez arrived.So are people finally going to admit he can work fine in Jose's system then?
When he wasn't starting we started to see lots of bollocks arguments about him not making it here due to poor instruction blah blah blah. All bollocks