Steven7290
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It's true every time he gets the ball I expect something magical to happen. How many goals he would have by the end of the season me thinks?
He’s still as of this moment the most productive player we have since his debut. It’s just pure madness that about a third if not more of this forum want him sold for fecking Perisic/Willian.47 goals, 33 assists since joining. Basically involved in a goal every other game. Not bad at all for a player not long 23 and considered by many as lazy and overhyped.
That is a guarantee. He might have even taken Giroud's position. Jose and his stupid defensive wingers.Fantastic today!
Mourinho robbed this lad of a WC gold medal.
He’s just unrreal. I agree that his best position is upfront, I like when it’s been him and Rashford with Jesse floating at #10.
Agreed. That's why he's not quite a winger. That inside 'Henry' channel is where he's absurdly devastating. Even in one of his poorer games this season he was subdued all game out side but when he came inside he did this lovely fake to beat the defender and came close to scoring.Today's goal shows the difference between when he finds himself positioned in between the opposition RB / RCB - in comparison to when he finds himself on the outside of the RB trying to beat his man.
He struggles as he did the whole match to beat the RB when the defender is positioned to push martial outwards towards the bye line - but when Martial has cut inside to play inebtween the RB & RCB he is untouchable as the defenders have to push him defensively closer to the goal than away from it. At that point martial becomes clinical.
Agreed. That's why he's not quite a winger. That inside 'Henry' channel is where he's absurdly devastating. Even in one of his poorer games this season he was subdued all game out side but when he came inside he did this lovely fake to beat the defender and came close to scoring.
He is basically playing that position. There's a notable change in formation from Ole regarding the wingers not tracking back as much, giving the full backs a bigger defensive role covering their man and allowing the opposition to exploit crossing more if they can but in return we get players like Martial in a more optimal position for counter-attacks and it has worked.Do you think that in the general term of a formation that he can start in such a position instead of trying to work himself there through out the match?
If he sits in that space either waiting to receive the ball or dropping deep to get it - he has so much more of an ability to be consistent.
Just whilst we are at it - if ole does manage to get/start Martial in that left 'Henry' channel - he arguably has a player in Greenwood that can play on the right 'RVP' channel & utilise his left foot. Let Rashford do his own thing right down the centre.
He is basically playing that position. There's a notable change in formation from Ole regarding the wingers not tracking back as much, giving the full backs a bigger defensive role covering their man and allowing the opposition to exploit crossing more if they can but in return we get players like Martial in a more optimal position for counter-attacks and it has worked.
Did anyone see the interview beforehand where he says normally in practice he misses all the time and they have a laugh about how his finishing isn’t great in training but come game day it’s a different story.
His movement has vastly improved in a short space of time. Was the only one making runs behind the defence today.
The best finisher in the club. And the 2nd most creative.
Trezeguet, Thuram, Petit, Mbappe too.Seems like Juan rates him alot
No need for Mbappe. I'm delighted we have Martial ourselves. Having said that, do Monaco have another similar player at their academy now and that we can poach? It's amazing they are constantly producing such talents over the years. Thierry Henry was from there as well
I still think he is best suited to number 9
How about a new winger signing and rashford on wings with Martial as number 9 ? Not sure if Rashford can excel as a winger though
Nah, Rashford and Martial need to build a partnership rather than compete. We need players to aid these two, not relegate them to bench rolesGet two wingers. Rotate between Rashford and Martial in the #9 postion. Sell Lukaku and Sanchez
Don’t forget EvraTrezeguet, Thuram, Petit, Mbappe too.
Nah, Rashford and Martial need to build a partnership rather than compete. We need players to aid these two, not relegate them to bench roles
The answer to all of that is yes. Look at his record against big teams, and Burnley you say? Look at his record against them as well. Whether sitting deep or counter attacking in big games he shows upDid anyone hear Ian Wright's assessment of Martial yesterday on MOTD? Worth a listen... he states that Martial has plenty power, pace.. but can still improve, final ball, needs to vary his game etc. He is right, I fully agree.
My feeling re Martial I have made many times. Tremendous potential, and what a run and finish yesterday. But.. he needs to add to his game. Is he a big game player? Does he win, dictate those big games for us? Does he lead? What about those games when we have more possession, at home, when teams have plenty behind the ball? (er, like Burnley recently...) free flowing football on the counter attack isn't going to help so much there.. you need more patience, guile, craft.. more quality in fact. I think I need to see that side to his game develop.
The game yesterday was perfect for him. A counter-attacking strategy, and we were playing against a side who were pretty dreadful.
Not raining on anyone's parade... Martial when he arrived was fantastic.. his all-round game then was in my view, better than it is now. As I mentioned in previous posts, let's see how he develops under Ole, because we will see his game evolve. It needs to. He is good, but there is more he needs to add to his game in my opinion.
Of course his game will evolve, he just turned 23.Did anyone hear Ian Wright's assessment of Martial yesterday on MOTD? Worth a listen... he states that Martial has plenty power, pace.. but can still improve, final ball, needs to vary his game etc. He is right, I fully agree.
My feeling re Martial I have made many times. Tremendous potential, and what a run and finish yesterday. But.. he needs to add to his game. Is he a big game player? Does he win, dictate those big games for us? Does he lead? What about those games when we have more possession, at home, when teams have plenty behind the ball? (er, like Burnley recently...) free flowing football on the counter attack isn't going to help so much there.. you need more patience, guile, craft.. more quality in fact. I think I need to see that side to his game develop.
The game yesterday was perfect for him. A counter-attacking strategy, and we were playing against a side who were pretty dreadful.
Not raining on anyone's parade... Martial when he arrived was fantastic.. his all-round game then was in my view, better than it is now. As I mentioned in previous posts, let's see how he develops under Ole, because we will see his game evolve. It needs to. He is good, but there is more he needs to add to his game in my opinion.
Did anyone hear Ian Wright's assessment of Martial yesterday on MOTD? Worth a listen... he states that Martial has plenty power, pace.. but can still improve, final ball, needs to vary his game etc. He is right, I fully agree.
My feeling re Martial I have made many times. Tremendous potential, and what a run and finish yesterday. But.. he needs to add to his game. Is he a big game player? Does he win, dictate those big games for us? Does he lead? What about those games when we have more possession, at home, when teams have plenty behind the ball? (er, like Burnley recently...) free flowing football on the counter attack isn't going to help so much there.. you need more patience, guile, craft.. more quality in fact. I think I need to see that side to his game develop.
The game yesterday was perfect for him. A counter-attacking strategy, and we were playing against a side who were pretty dreadful.
Not raining on anyone's parade... Martial when he arrived was fantastic.. his all-round game then was in my view, better than it is now. As I mentioned in previous posts, let's see how he develops under Ole, because we will see his game evolve. It needs to. He is good, but there is more he needs to add to his game in my opinion.
Disgustingly good player. Even as a United fan it’s a rather frightening thought to imagine where he’ll be at in his peak. Him, Rashford and Pogba are all yet to peak. Another Champions League trophy not be that far way.
Tbf, there's nothing wrong with saying he needs to add more to his game.Ian Wright is clueless.
Doesn't play there for either us or France
Maybe so, but you can say that about any young player. Overall he's a terrible pundit.Tbf, there's nothing wrong with saying he needs to add more to his game.
Ian Wright is clueless.
The argument will never end. I'm of the opinion that under the right set up, he's at his best as a LF with liscence to drift drioss both channels. Where he isn't burdened with providing width.
We played a variation of 343/352 yesterday and it worked well.
Imo, a LF can be as part of a front three or front two. The width comes from the LB or LWB. Thing about yesterday, and the Spurs game is that he played well up the pitch so had opportunities to move to the channel between The RB and RCB. As long as we don't burden him with providing width, he'll be fine even if he doesn't play up front.By LF, I'm guessing you mean the channel between the RB and RCB. Which to me is basically a striker. Its the position Henry played.
At the moment he still starts way too wide, which is a waste for me.