You think adding 'talent' makes the slightest difference to what you said?
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All evidence suggests that Jose is a short-term option. In all likelihood he'll be gone within 2-3 years.
Martial has the potential to be a (close to a) world-class player for a decade for us.
Yep, I'd go with the kid.
Staggering when you bring out the stats like that. The mind truly boggles.
Well, i'm gambling on it.
And waiting for subsea to start lowering the bop so i actually have something to do
Well thank f*ck you aren't in charge.
Of course it does. Given you failed understand the implication and responded anyway.
Or he likes Rashford more. Why does it always has to be he doesn't like someone big he doesn't play him. It's not a soap opera.
This is true.
Neither are indispensable to the club, so let's not act as if losing Mourinho would destroy this club.
He could have moved Rashford to the right and played Martial instead of Mkhi or Mata too. Mkhi has put up the numbers but his overall play has been very poor, and Mata has done very little of note so far.
You said he's a sensational talent. I replied, 'sensational? he's had one good season and one crap one'. In what what way did I fail to understand what you said?
The thing people fail to realise is that this martial treatment by Jose didn't start this season but goes back to last season where martial will put in a MoM performance in one match and be dropped in the next, do people really want us to forget all that and pretend it never happened?
Rashford was picked last season even when he wasn't producing the goods for months and I'll give my left arm for Jose to show martial that much trust starting on Wednesday, in a perfect world rashford has just bought martial two consequetive starts at least with his poor performances... too bad we're not living in utopia
Rashford was picked last season even when he wasn't producing the goods for months and I'll give my left arm for Jose to show martial that much trust starting on Wednesday, in a perfect world rashford has just bought martial two consequetive starts at least with his poor performances... too bad we're not living in utopia
Same goes with Martial. Pitty some care more about him than about the club.
I like how we're making up more things. It's a competition between the two (1/6 starts vs 5/6 starts and 300mins PL football more), Mourinho just has so much higher expectations for Martial, it's because he wanted to play Young so he has to play Rashford
It's simple, he has no long term plans for Martial at Manchester United.
I'm not sure who you're talking to, but I don't think he has higher expectations for Martial nor do I think he has to play Rashford. It simply appears to be his preference, which has been borne out by his team selections.
I think it's likelier than not that Martial leaves before Jose does, but I don't think it's quite as settled as you think it is.
No. I just care more about him than about Jose.
It's utterly bizarre.
Don't bother, that what they do. They start pretending and acting like Martial is some average talent out there so they can justify all the mismanagement he's gotten so far from Mourinho.
Thick bunch
Who would we pull out from the bench, attacking wise? It's a nice lineup with no attacking backup.
@Borden
Guess how Pep became successful? Oh just by taking a chance on a young kid we know all know as the best player in world. Imagine if someone like Mourinho came and didn't start that player because he didn't track back enough. Even if the best coach has the hardest working players, talent will win 9/10. So long term i'd stick Borden's philosophy over Mourinho, because all Mourinho has shown us year after year, that he isn't a manager who can build things for the long haul, and even in the short term can't deliver success without being backed by lots of money.
So whoever isn't agreeing with you is thick? Nice.
Interesting logic. "Let's not play our best players, that way we have better players to throw in if it goes tits up!"
Young player who might or might not be great > arguably the best manager in the world.
Thick bunch doesn't even come close.
Seriously ? Messi was a starter before Pep came to the team.
Also I thought Rashford was also considered a young kid ?
So if so get this right Pep can build for the long haul and brings success without lot of money unlike Mourinho?
That's your answer?
Not many people shave with occam's razor unfortunately...I like how we're making up more things. It's a competition between the two (1/6 starts vs 5/6 starts and 300mins PL football more), Mourinho just has so much higher expectations for Martial, it's because he wanted to play Young so he has to play Rashford
It's simple, he has no long term plans for Martial at Manchester United.
Yes?
So you'd get rid of Jose instead of Martial even if it meant no titles for instance?
It's not the same. Martial in his age needs to play. His playing time is not looking good at the moment especially considering the fact that he has been in a very good form. He is also a great talent, so it's understandable that some people are concerned if this continues.
This read more like a childish rant more than anything.
This is a forum and people wI'll talk about the club players and people aren't calling for him playing baselessly. You trying to pass it as people just wanting to see Martial play for their own enjoyment rather than him actually deserving of playing time is quite absurd.
And stop these "Martial FC" arguments, it's pathetic. If people express concern on the handling on one of our player doesn't mean they care less about the club, these sort of rebuttal or childlike and stupid.
Imagine the team just won today and some are only talking about Martial not playing. Speaks volumes for me about some people's priority here.
Could have been better.
Because he is a sensational talent and you're judging him as a player, clearly. Do keep up.
You can be a sensational talent and have ups and down (in fact you will). Go back and watch videos of a certain Ronaldo doing 20 step overs only to hit crosses long / get easily dispossession.
Martial is clearly a hugely gifted young player who had a brilliant first season which showed the frightening potential he has. He didn't have a great second season but he also seemed to not fit well with the managers ways and that plays a part in ones peformances. Not that it's unusual. Young players go through phases.
But either way it's blatantly obvious why people care. And if you dot get that maybe it's you whose missing a trick.
I reckon that it's a given that he'll miss out of the French national team for the world cup, he'll be well aware that if he isn't in a team willing to even give him consecutive starts in the league, he'll never be in the running for a spot either. So better to move on to a decent team while he still has the chance, and build from that, rather than wasting a year or two on being a cup player at Manchester United under a manager that doesn't rate him
Well, we have already established that some of you care more about Martial than our manager.
The manager =/= the club, anymore than Martial does. Yet somehow you think it's okay so "not give a shit" about Martial, but when someone does the same to your beloved Jose you're absolutely horrified.
Bizarre.
What more to be said? It's an absurd reason for not playing your best attackers. Literally none of the top clubs do that.
No it's the same thing. just a question : if Martial was the one starting every match while Rashford was getting benched would we have seen the same meltdown? Would any one have said he's a young kid that needs to play ? I highly doubt that. Some are just wanting Martial to play every minute that's it.
Talking about him getting sold every time he doesn't play is pathetic tbh with you. The same happened when he didn't play against Madrid and guess what ? Life went on after this game and he played, scored and started some games. The current meltdown will go on till he starts against Cska.
Some are just obsessed with saving Martial's future by wanting him to leave.
Did you even understand the post you quoted?
I didn't say it's a good reason but the fact is we would be thin on the bench.
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