[sherrinford]

Which shouldn't be the main target. The main target should be wanting him to fulfill potential here, not at another club. These posts are acceptable if they're coming from neutrals or French people, but from United fans it doesn't make sense. Again if someone is Ok with that, ok, but it doesn't make sense and make it look like you care for the player more than the club.

Everyone would rather he fulfilled his potential here - it goes without saying. It’s perfectly acceptable to want Martial to stay and do well but think he might be better off elsewhere. Thinking he should leave doesn’t equate to not wanting the best for the club or caring about a player more. You kind of sound like Paddy Crerand commentating on a United game - as biased as they come and entirely subjective about pretty much everything.

 

[el3mel]

Everyone would rather he fulfilled his potential here - it goes without saying. It’s perfectly acceptable to want Martial to stay and do well but think he might be better off elsewhere. Thinking he should leave doesn’t equate to not wanting the best for the club or caring about a player more. You kind of sound like Paddy Crerand commentating on a United game - as biased as they come and entirely subjective about pretty much everything.

Yes. I'm biased and I don't find any problem in it tbh. I haven't tried to be anything else before.

 

[P-Nut]

I'm not usually as pessimistic as others, however I can't see a way for him to stay at all. Sanchez ahead of him at present and Rashford will always have the local advantage over him.

 

[Henrik Larsson]

Love Martial and hope he will stay for a long time. He doesn't seem fully convinced about this himself though, which is strange considering the massive amount of money we paid for him at such a young age and the numerous opportunities he's had.

His agent has been making noise for a long time now. This is something for which Martial bears full responsibility in my opinion, and any player who is serious and committed about his future at this club shouldn't accept this, again in my opinion.

(December) 2016:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...nthony-martials-agent-says-manchester-united/

Recently:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...-rumours-agent-arsenal-interest-a8264601.html

 

[Damien]

Love Martial and hope he will stay for a long time. He doesn't seem fully convinced about this himself though, which is strange considering the massive amount of money we paid for him at such a young age and the numerous opportunities he's had.

His agent has been making noise for two years now. This is something for which Martial bears full responsibility in my opinion, and any player who is serious and committed about his future at this club shouldn't accept this, again in my opinion.

(December) 2016:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...nthony-martials-agent-says-manchester-united/

Recently:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...-rumours-agent-arsenal-interest-a8264601.html

The second link is misleading. He also said this (in response to reports that Juventus were interested/had contacted Martial):

“I’ve never met Juventus chiefs and Doyen Sports do not represent the interest of Martial. Everything that was reported by Italian media is fake news.”

Figures that they'd not include that at all to make it look like the agent is stirring up a move.

 

[Henrik Larsson]

The second link is misleading. He also said this (in response to reports that Juventus were interested/had contacted Martial):



Figures that they'd not include that at all to make it look like the agent is stirring up a move.

Ok fair enough, and hopefully it'll turn out to be nonsense in the end. He can have a brilliant career here with a little patience.

 

[redIndianDevil]

Ok fair enough, and hopefully it'll turn out to be nonsense in the end. He can have a brilliant career here with a little patience.

Not really, Sanchez is no pushover and will be in his peak for at least another couple of years. Rashford is very young and good too and being English, he will be propped up by the media. If I was Martial's agent, I'd advice him to leave.

 

[Jonno]

Still incredibly young, lots of time to develop and step up from his inconsistent form.

I doubt he will be at United in a couple of years. Maybe 10 years ago, but nowadays it’s far more common to see players move on.

 

[Swift Football]

Martial obviously have lots of talent. But he has not improved his movement and work rate. I believe moving to another club is good for both him and us. Probably arsenal and Juventus will be ready to pay 50M for him which we could use to invest in RW.
In an ideal world I would like him to stay here and be a top talent.

 

[Frank Grimes]

I'm not one of these who wants Martial do do better somewhere else, if he doesn't do well here I hope he goes on to have a mediocre career.

 

[sherrinford]

Yes. I'm biased and I don't find any problem in it tbh. I haven't tried to be anything else before.

So if I’m watching United and we have a penalty shout you couldn’t comprehend the idea that I may not think it was a penalty even though I want United to win? Same principle - one does not automatically mean the other.

It is normal for folk to be talking as if Martial might be better leaving, given how he has played and been played over the course of Mourinho’s time here, and particularly his position lately with Sanchez signing and how quickly opinions form on here.

 

[el3mel]

So if I’m watching United and we have a penalty shout you couldn’t comprehend the idea that I may not think it was a penalty even though I want United to win? Same principle - one does not automatically mean the other.

It is normal for folk to be talking as if Martial might be better leaving, given how he has played and been played over the course of Mourinho’s time here, and particularly his position lately with Sanchez signing and how quickly opinions form on here.

That comparison is pretty different from what we're talking about.

As I said if someone is Ok with it, it's ok for them, however posts like "for the sake of his career he should leave" will never make sense for me when it comes from a United fan. Maybe the poster thinks it'll be better for the player to leave but it will definitely not be good for us at all to leave and that's the main concern.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I'm not one of these who wants Martial do do better somewhere else, if he doesn't do well here I hope he goes on to have a mediocre career.

Same. Can’t relate to anyone who might think different.

 

[Gungne]

If Martial had started all the games instead of Sanchez, he would have scored more than Sanchezs 2 goals. Martial 22yo, Sanches 29yo. Martial is the future, Sanchez is not...

 

[Garethw]

He should have replaced Lukaku in the second half. We were comfortably winning and it would have allowed both Martial and Rashford to come on.

Unfortunately I don't see a future for Martial at Manchester United all the time Mourinho is manager.

He isn't anywhere close to being the finished article, but I do think it will turn out to be a massive mistake to sell him.

If it's true that Martial is going to be sacrificed to sign a 29 year old, injury ravaged Bale, then feck Mourinho.

 

[Leftback99]

I'm not usually as pessimistic as others, however I can't see a way for him to stay at all. Sanchez ahead of him at present and Rashford will always have the local advantage over him.

I agree, but hopefully not. It appears Sanchez was signed to replace him who is only going to decline at his age.

 

[Catt]

Will love to see how people spin it when he's tearing it up elsewhere.

So he's definitely leaving?

 

[Catt]

I'm not one of these who wants Martial do do better somewhere else, if he doesn't do well here I hope he goes on to have a mediocre career.

I'm petty so I agree with you.

 

[P-Nut]

For those that think he'll make it here, would you mean explaining how you see it panning out please?

I'd love for it to happen, but unless he gets a chance one day and hits red hot form making him self undroppable I just don't see it. I mean sure, he's capable of red hot form, but we've already seen, one bad game and he'll get dropped for Rashford or Sanchez and then we're back to square one.

 

[Member 85611]

For those that think he'll make it here, would you mean explaining how you see it panning out please?

I'd love for it to happen, but unless he gets a chance one day and hits red hot form making him self undroppable I just don't see it. I mean sure, he's capable of red hot form, but we've already seen, one bad game and he'll get dropped for Rashford or Sanchez and then we're back to square one.

He was motm 3 games in a row before Sanchez arrived. If that's not taking chances and making himself undroppable, I don't know what is.

 

[JPRouve]

For those that think he'll make it here, would you mean explaining how you see it panning out please?

I'd love for it to happen, but unless he gets a chance one day and hits red hot form making him self undroppable I just don't see it. I mean sure, he's capable of red hot form, but we've already seen, one bad game and he'll get dropped for Rashford or Sanchez and then we're back to square one.

At this point I'm skeptical, the manager seem to not fancy him and it seems that the best outcome would be for everyone to go separate ways.

 

[Litch]

For those that think he'll make it here, would you mean explaining how you see it panning out please?

I'd love for it to happen, but unless he gets a chance one day and hits red hot form making him self undroppable I just don't see it. I mean sure, he's capable of red hot form, but we've already seen, one bad game and he'll get dropped for Rashford or Sanchez and then we're back to square one.

I'm not sure either and Jose rarely changes him first impression of players. He might say one thing but he does the complete opposite. I think Martial is surplus to requirements but Jose will never say that as they'll want proper money for him.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

If Martial had started all the games instead of Sanchez, he would have scored more than Sanchezs 2 goals. Martial 22yo, Sanches 29yo. Martial is the future, Sanchez is not...

If Martial worked like Sanchez did yesterday every time he lost the ball to win it back, we probably would've have even signed Sanchez.

 

[Adisa]

I'd be devastated if he leaves.
Hope we announce his new contract. That we are in talks, is a good sign.

 

[Litch]

If Martial worked like Sanchez did yesterday every time he lost the ball to win it back, we probably would've have even signed Sanchez.

I make you right.

 

[sunama]

Will love to see how people spin it when he's tearing it up elsewhere.

We don't know if he is leaving and we don't know if he is going to tear it up anywhere.
The likes of the Schmidfield, Depay, Rooney, etc have gone on to achieve nothing great.
Miki only moved a few weeks ago, so we need to wait a season before judging him.
Based on the above, if Martial is sold, I don't think we will regret it. The talks of him being a future Ball on Dor winner are as ridiculous as Luke Shaw being the best LB in the World.

 

[gajender]

At this point I'm skeptical, the manager seem to not fancy him and it seems that the best outcome would be for everyone to go separate ways.

I believe that could be the case but I genuinely think United management would not sanction Martial's sale this summer unless he refuses to sign the contract extension and requests transfer ,which may very well be the case if his game time continue to decrease as season progresses.

 

[Silas]

We don't know if he is leaving and we don't know if he is going to tear it up anywhere.
The likes of the Schmidfield, Depay, Rooney, etc have gone on to achieve nothing great.

None or those are similar at all. BFS and Rooney were both past it, so they obviously weren't going to do much after leaving. Schneiderlin and Depay never looked good enough, even while they were here.

 

[Member 90678]

I'm not one of these who wants Martial do do better somewhere else, if he doesn't do well here I hope he goes on to have a mediocre career.

I have to agree, not many players leave united and go on to have a better career and more success.
He might not be suited to the pressure at united and go on to have a good career somewhere else with less media pressure and less scrutiny, if he does so what!

 

[Cassidy]

I believe that could be the case but I genuinely think United management would not sanction Martial's sale this summer unless he refuses to sign the contract extension and requests transfer ,which may very well be the case if his game time continue to decrease as season progresses.

Or if we sign another top attacking player in the summer. Didn't realise his contract is up in 2019...

 

[haram]

Or if we sign another top attacking player in the summer. Didn't realise his contract is up in 2019...

I think we have an option to extend for a further year?

 

[VorZakone]

What's so annoying is that his first season (15/16) was really good and very promising but he's never truely kicked on from that season which is a shame. He should be an established attacker for United right now, yet he isn't.

 

[Cassidy]

What's so annoying is that his first season (15/16) was really good and very promising but he's never truely kicked on from that season which is a shame. He should be an established attacker for United right now, yet he isn't.

The question is who is? Id argue if LVG stayed on he would be as well. Even though I believe we was right to get rid of him as manager btw.

Many people predicted this happening with Jose coming in though. I hope it doesn't got that way but...

 

[Cassidy]

I think we have an option to extend for a further year?

Probably, but its worrying I hope we tie him down this summer.

 

[gajender]

Or if we sign another top attacking player in the summer. Didn't realise his contract is up in 2019...

I believe we are short in number for our attacking positions ,we still have space for addition or two without anyone leaving if Mourinho continues with 4231 formation but change in formation could lead to some changes but in any case we should persist with Martial.

 

[Cassidy]

I believe we are short in number for our attacking positions ,we still have space for addition or two without anyone leaving if Mourinho continues with 4231 formation but change in formation could lead to some changes but in any case we should persist with Martial.

I don't think its a case of us persisting, its a case of him wanting to persist as a back up player.
We sign a Bale then I don't see him being first choice. Will he be happy to wait? Time will tell I guess.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

I don't think its a case of us persisting, its a case of him wanting to persist as a back up player.
We sign a Bale then I don't see him being first choice. Will he be happy to wait? Time will tell I guess.

It's not about waiting, it's about being too good to be dropped.

Bale has been sidelined even when fit this year for a younger, less proven player. It's all about winning your place.

 

[gajender]

I don't think its a case of us persisting, its a case of him wanting to persist as a back up player.
We sign a Bale then I don't see him being first choice. Will he be happy to wait? Time will tell I guess.

Martial would certainly require some clarity and assurances regarding his position with us before signing the new deal it's up to us to convince him about his future role with us let's see how it pans Out I still believe he would sign the new deal .

 

[Cassidy]

It's not about waiting, it's about being too good to be dropped.

Bale has been sidelined even when fit this year for a younger, less proven player. It's all about winning your place.

I agree, a player who was the best attacking player at the time in the team in terms of goals and assists, lost his place to the new big name signing. He also hasn;t been able to win a regular spot under Jose. As a player seeing 3 big attacking signings come in, actually 4.

He lost his no9 and striker position to Ibra (I think people forget this is his preferred position)
We signed Lukaku - hope of winning the striker spot further impacted
We signed Sanchez - lost his place at LW whilst it looked like he was in good form

If we add to the above singing another top player like Bale, Jose would likely have to be giving Martial some assurances of his value to the team.
Of course I am speculating, but it seems to me Martial will have every reason to want to evaluate his options given all of the above and the fact is seems he doesn't seem to have the full trust of the manager.

 

[Smores]

For those that think he'll make it here, would you mean explaining how you see it panning out please?

I'd love for it to happen, but unless he gets a chance one day and hits red hot form making him self undroppable I just don't see it. I mean sure, he's capable of red hot form, but we've already seen, one bad game and he'll get dropped for Rashford or Sanchez and then we're back to square one.

He'll realise he has to improve his work rate, movement and all round game. If he does there's 4 positions where he can realistically get time to prove himself.
There seems to be a mindset on here that its not down to Martial but the manager. If Martial gives the manager what he wants he'll play. It's not a huge ask for him to work on his movement at all.