He is no 9 for me. I hate we are wasting him on the wing.
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Martial was poor today. Didn't seem interested at all - can see why Mourinho gets frustrated.
Mind you Rashford has been poor as well and he never seems to get hooked.
Mind you Rashford has been poor as well and he never seems to get hooked.
I find Rashford's poor is a better level than Martial's, who goes invisible. Not seen the whole game today so don't know if it applies this time.
Agreed. Rashford is better at tracking back and showing for the ball. When Martial isn't brilliant he's a passenger at the moment.
Half-arsed as usual, most overrated United player on the RedCafe.
One of those games...unplayable in one game and outshone by Young on the left in another.
Not really his day today.
Very poor game today.
Can't fault him and Rashford much when we barely ever get them the ball with a chance to run at defenders.
It's always at the half way line with 3 defenders attached to their hips.
It's always at the half way line with 3 defenders attached to their hips.
Crap today. Our attacking play doesn't really seem to help our attackers, City's, Tottenham's and Liverpool's passing is so superior and quick their attackers often find themselves one v one against defenders, whereas Martial and Rashford often have to beat 3 defenders to even put in a cross. It's diabolical coaching.
Exactly, our passing is so pedestrian and poor and our opponents always seem to be a step ahead in snuffing out the danger.
There are plenty examples of Liverpool and Spurs failing to break down shite teams at home.
Do you have a spreadsheet which tells you what excuse to bring out when someone criticizes Martial?
ASHLEY YOUNG was running their fullback ragged and you are saying Martial had 3 defenders attached to his hips. Martial just waits and waits and waits for the ball and when he gets the ball he just waits and waits. Ashley Young gets into good positions, takes on his man as soon as he gets the ball, then puts a cross or shot in.
Some people are too blinded to notice, but Martial randomly stops after he beats a man instead of carrying on his run, which gives the the other team time to get numbers back. Then he cuts inside and runs into a dead end. His decision making is not good enough yet.
Yes they have but you still have to concede their attacking is far more superior to ours.
Why are they not breaking these teams down then? Not only that, but we've scored more goals anyway.
I think Liverpool and Spurs players are in a similar predicament to ours when teams sit back. When teams open up against us we score 4.
Kind of going off topic anyway. I'll just leave it there.
He does need to learn more things about finding space in games like this one. This being said, we don't really look to help our attackers with creating cohesion. Rare one-twos, no overlap, no runs from deep.
Really underwhelming today bar 15 minutes in the first half.
He was poor today. I also thought he was poor in mid-week. His passing is so hit and miss and he never makes decent runs. If he’s not dribbling past people (which he is often very good at tbf) he contributes feck all. Which is a problem.
Funny thing is GD tells a different story.
You can't really blame other players for not passing the ball to him when he can't even do it for them. Our attack is filled with players that can't pass the ball.
Cool down edge lord. Ashley Young gets to run them ragged because he's not getting marked like Martial and Martial takes defenders with him when he moves infield.
Martial is one on one with the fullback quite often, but he dithers and dithers on the ball which gives time for another player to mark him.
He does this in almost every game he plays; he slows down when in dangerous positions instead of speeding up; then cuts inside into a wall of defenders and loses the ball.
It is not to do with ability, because he has the ability to run past players, it is decision making.
False.
He did the exact same thing i described a few times in this game. He has the run on the fullback, then does his little thing where he slows down to try to commit the full back, the full back just waits for his teammate to cover the inside, Martial cuts inside anyway and loses the ball. Just because you don't want to notice it doesnt mean it doesnt exist
Like I've always thought he is extremely one dimensional. Dribbling is all he's got. He's very very good at it but it is still only one dimension. He'll never be the ballon dor world beater that so many like to believe because his all around game just isn't there and there have been no signs of inprovement to it.
Does my head in when he stands in the hardest possible position to receive the ball just to show off his dribbling. Even worse when he loses it.
Agree thought he was poor midweek too bar last 15 of first half
Didn't stop Young having a very good game though did it? Martial was poor today, as were a lot of the team. Hopefully Pogba returning to full fitness will benefit the entire team.
When we play against opposition this narrow he needs to get a bit wider, he was completely marked out of the game for long parts but hey at least that opened up space for Young who used it quite well.
Was very poor, lots of people claim he's got all the potential in the world yet very rarely shows it.
We can't play Lukaku, Martial and Rashford in the same side.
None of them are known for their passing so two players runs are wasted when the other has the ball.
It really limits us if the only player who can pick a pass is Pogba or even Mata if its in a congested space.
None of them are known for their passing so two players runs are wasted when the other has the ball.
It really limits us if the only player who can pick a pass is Pogba or even Mata if its in a congested space.
I didn't see much of the game but hew didn't look good. We lacked width. Either he needs to stay wide and dribble his way in, or he needs someone out wide to pass to when the centre gets too congested.
Both Martial and Rashford aren't proper wingers. They are more of (second) strikers than wingers.
Him coming inside provided Young with a lot of space, which he made good use of tbf.
Ya, as I said I missed most of the game so that's possible. I just remember a moment, around 50 minutes, where Martial, Rashford, Mata, Lukaku were all roughly central, all the defenders had come narrow and there were acres outside but Valencia wasn't in sight (Martial had an easy out-ball there).
In Pep's system (and Martial under LvG) the wingers stay wide till they get the ball, in many other systems they drift in but the fullbacks follow very methodically. Ours needs to function better in at least one of those ways. If Young was managing that on the left then it's good, it's possible I missed that part of the match.
Not his day. Should be persisted with in the starting 11 though. It happens (especially when pretty much everyone bar 2 of our defenders had off days).
Martial was poor today. Didn’t look up for it. From what I’ve noticed, he’s too easily taken out of a game. He becomes ineffective if space is taken away from him. He doesn’t go find space for himself. Just stands around and never gets the ball because he’s staying too close to the opposing defenders. IMO, he doesn’t like to work hard in tough games. He fizzles in tough games. He perks up when he’s playing defenses not as organized or defenses who have been worn down by someone before him, or when we’re up several goals.
Had a bad day, it's allowed. Seems some can't accept any criticis of him though 
He never looks up for it.
Needs to go to Spain and trot around la liga pitches.
Bags of Talent but one lazy beggar
He should stop coming centrally everytime when he can't get the ball for a few minutes but no concerns, he is good and he is at the right place. I hear comments regarding him being on the 'list' of Jose but fair play to our manager, subbing him off was the right thing to do today.
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