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2017-18 Performances


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Anyone with an iota of intelligence would know how good Martial is. Some over here just don't know football
Indeed. Through various Martial discussion threads I've come to see a lot of ignorant posters on these boards.

Some just can't tell what true talent is, even if it hit them right in the face.
 
What a run towards of the end of the half. Hopefully Jose keeps him on. I just feel like he needs a run of games to properly get going.
 
I've noticed recently that he has started cutting inside and quickly crossing the ball in from the right. He never did this much in the past, so it must be a clear instruction from Jose. He seems to be able to cross consistently in the same kind of area, and always seems to hit it with the same trajectory and pace, so hopefully Lukaku can start making the correct runs to make the most of it.

His cross tonight really should have been finished by Fellaini.
 
Turns it up and brilliant moves by him.

I think this is the thing with him. Can be almost invisible and then out of nowhere reminds everyone why we love him so.

I do think it's Jose's approach and mentality as a team that seeps in to him (he's also often very deep due to defensive responsibilities). He isn't going to go gung-ho because that's not what the manager wants, but rather controlled and intelligent bursts when the opportunity presents itself.
 
Should have never been taken off, I feel like he was the most likely to make something happen today.
 


You get that feeling with Martial that he could be a truely terrifying player, I just hope we can get that level out of him and he doesn't end up elsewhere as it would be pretty sickening.
Should have never been taken off, I feel like he was the most likely to make something happen today.

He was also the only one consistently holding the ball or carrying it for us, it also unbalanced us to have Lukaku out wide because he doesn't track back or make runs like a wide player.
 
I think we need to involve him more and then try take advantage of when opposition try a 2 on 1 against him. The biggest shame is we dont have an overlapping left back (like Evra was) to take advantage or to help him isolate a man more often.
 
In the end Martial will and should end up as the clubs main centre forward.

He'll be a better CF than Lukaku before he's 23 IMO.

He already so good but there's still so much to come from him.
 
After Pogba and Rojo I thought he was our best player, created a couple of chances and did everything right on that blistering run that brought a good save out of their keeper.
 
If we were bringing Ibra on Lukaku should have walked - Martial had far more to offer tonight - he is getting more consistent and he was the only decent crosser in the team tonight - losing him lost us a means of feeding our main attacker both from crosses, dribbles & flicks. As nothing apart from high balls came through the centre we needed to use width and neither Lukaku nor Ibra did that
 
The most effective out of all our attacking players by some distance.
 
I think he is on the verge of establishing himself as something of a regular in our XI now. Truth is truth, and no manager will be able to justify leaving him out with any sort of regularity at the moment. He’s very obviously our best forward player for me, and him and Pogba are also the two main players who can guarantee that watching us isn’t a completely joyless experience.

Credit to Martial and also credit to all of the posters who appealed for patience earlier in the season when people like myself thought his marginalisation would be more prolonged, and eventually, fatal to his United career. Still early days, but the tide is turning I feel, and once the press start getting behind it, which they are now, it will be harder to leave him out.
 
I think he is on the verge of establishing himself as something of a regular in our XI now. Truth is truth, and no manager will be able to justify leaving him out with any sort of regularity at the moment. He’s very obviously our best forward player for me, and him and Pogba are also the two main players who can guarantee that watching us isn’t a completely joyless experience.

Credit to Martial and also credit to all of the posters who appealed for patience earlier in the season when people like myself thought his marginalisation would be more prolonged, and eventually, fatal to his United career. Still early days, but the tide is turning I feel, and once the press start getting behind it, which they are now, it will be harder to leave him out.
He also looks on the verge of an iconic game on of these days, he's been playing consistently well and he's getting more of the ball (still not enough but there's a clear improvement). He looks really up for it and is enjoying his football. He needs to fully settle in a set starting eleven and that iconic performance will come sooner than later.
 
Think that was the first time he's started 2 games in a row this season?

He had a good first half, should have had an easy assist with the great cross to Fellaini.

He was getting double/triple marked all game and it's so frustrating we don't have anybody effective on the RW to take advantage of the space he creates.

That run he had where he skinned 2 defenders and nearly crept it in passed the keeper shows exactly why we need him in the team.
 
Felt like throwing my remote into the screen when he was subbed off only for Jose to play three pillars up front.
 
He clearly needs to sit inside a room and watch the movements of neymar , hazard, ronaldo, sanchez every day and study his own movements on the pitch in the final third and improve his deficiencies in the game.

He never gets inside in his fullback without theball even when he can exploit the gaps between fullback and cb with good off the ball attacking runs and positioning.
 
His lack of movement is a major issue and he needs to work on this.
But he seems to get subbed off even when performing better than others. Lukaka was very poor last night but Martial who created so many chances and nearly scored himself is subbed off.
 
I thought Martial didn't play well most of the time he was on the pitch yesterday. But same can be said of many of the other players. Rashford and Zlatan had just a few minutes but they were poor for that period. Lukaku was very average too. Lingard was totally off.
 
His lack of movement is a major issue and he needs to work on this.
But he seems to get subbed off even when performing better than others. Lukaka was very poor last night but Martial who created so many chances and nearly scored himself is subbed off.

Exactly. If Martial gets half the love Lukaku gets, he would be our Hazard. I would even go ahead and say to build a team around him and Pogba.
 
I've noticed recently that he has started cutting inside and quickly crossing the ball in from the right. He never did this much in the past, so it must be a clear instruction from Jose. He seems to be able to cross consistently in the same kind of area, and always seems to hit it with the same trajectory and pace, so hopefully Lukaku can start making the correct runs to make the most of it.

His cross tonight really should have been finished by Fellaini.
He actually does cross like that quite a lot ever since he has been here. It’s quite an intresting cross, seems to put a lot of top spin on it so it comes down at an arc. It’s a weird one but looks really effective.
 
I thought Martial didn't play well most of the time he was on the pitch yesterday. But same can be said of many of the other players. Rashford and Zlatan had just a few minutes but they were poor for that period. Lukaku was very average too. Lingard was totally off.
He created 3 chances. Given the way we played which was to control the game with purposeless passes mostly to keep possession, the game was flat and a busy game wasn't going to happen. Though as an attacking player creating of chances is what mostly needed in such scenarios and he created the most and clearest by far.

Creating 3 clear chances shows a pretty good game to me.
 
He actually does cross like that quite a lot ever since he has been here. It’s quite an intresting cross, seems to put a lot of top spin on it so it comes down at an arc. It’s a weird one but looks really effective.
Yeah, I think his crossing is underrated. I remember quite a few assists from it and occasions that should have resulted in one like last night.

Was a bit weird subbing off a good crosser to bring another tall player on who'd need the service.
 
He created 3 chances. Given the way we played which was to control the game with purposeless passes mostly to keep possession, the game was flat and a busy game wasn't going to happen. Though as an attacking player creating of chances is what mostly needed in such scenarios and he created the most and clearest by far.

Creating 3 clear chances shows a pretty good game to me.

Fair enough. But I felt he gave the ball away many times. Not trying to slate the kid but just being honest with my assessment. I really didn't feel his impact much. Like I said earlier, the same can be said of many of the other lads yesterday.
 
He clearly needs to sit inside a room and watch the movements of neymar , hazard, ronaldo, sanchez every day and study his own movements on the pitch in the final third and improve his deficiencies in the game.

He never gets inside in his fullback without theball even when he can exploit the gaps between fullback and cb with good off the ball attacking runs and positioning.

Whilst that is a fair post, it must be noted that both he and Rashford, for all their flaws and learning points, are having to have right footed, mediocre left backs as their support.. and to make it worse, those average full backs are not instructed to provide width on the overlap and instead they tend to underlap.

Neymar... Alba/Marcelo.. now Kurzawa.
Hazard.. Marcos Alonso
Sanchez.. Monreal/Kolasnic

Now not saying these guys have had top tier full back support, but in general they've had pretty attack minded left footed full backs behind them, which gives them more freedom to cut in. Whereas we have very defensive full backs and no left footers in the squad.

If Shaw had lived up to his potential, it would definitely bring on Martial and Rashfords game leaps and bounds.
 
Whilst that is a fair post, it must be noted that both he and Rashford, for all their flaws and learning points, are having to have right footed, mediocre left backs as their support.. and to make it worse, those average full backs are not instructed to provide width on the overlap and instead they tend to underlap.

Neymar... Alba/Marcelo.. now Kurzawa.
Hazard.. Marcos Alonso
Sanchez.. Monreal/Kolasnic

Now not saying these guys have had top tier full back support, but in general they've had pretty attack minded left footed full backs behind them, which gives them more freedom to cut in. Whereas we have very defensive full backs and no left footers in the squad.

If Shaw had lived up to his potential, it would definitely bring on Martial and Rashfords game leaps and bounds.
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Shaw even made Memphis look good at times
 
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Shaw even made Memphis look good at times

They had a good bromance going and that is what it should be like.. look at Beckham/Neville, lifelong friends, or Ronaldo/Neymar with Marcelo.

That bond between winger and full back is priceless in creating good interplay down the flanks.. tbh I am struggling to think of great full-back winger relationships in Jose sides. He seems to see them as different compartments.
 
They had a good bromance going and that is what it should be like.. look at Beckham/Neville, lifelong friends, or Ronaldo/Neymar with Marcelo.

That bond between winger and full back is priceless in creating good interplay down the flanks.. tbh I am struggling to think of great full-back winger relationships in Jose sides. He seems to see them as different compartments.

Marcelo ronaldo , Ashley cole /gallas and duff.
 
They had a good bromance going and that is what it should be like.. look at Beckham/Neville, lifelong friends, or Ronaldo/Neymar with Marcelo.

That bond between winger and full back is priceless in creating good interplay down the flanks.. tbh I am struggling to think of great full-back winger relationships in Jose sides. He seems to see them as different compartments.
Perhaps it helps when the wide player and the FB have a natural inclination to attack and are given the license to.

Jose's prerogative is more towards defending than attacking imo, so it kind throws it up in the air about what kind of FB he thinks will complement Martial.

What kind of FB do you think he might have in mind, out of curiosity?
 
Whilst that is a fair post, it must be noted that both he and Rashford, for all their flaws and learning points, are having to have right footed, mediocre left backs as their support.. and to make it worse, those average full backs are not instructed to provide width on the overlap and instead they tend to underlap.

Neymar... Alba/Marcelo.. now Kurzawa.
Hazard.. Marcos Alonso
Sanchez.. Monreal/Kolasnic

Now not saying these guys have had top tier full back support, but in general they've had pretty attack minded left footed full backs behind them, which gives them more freedom to cut in. Whereas we have very defensive full backs and no left footers in the squad.

If Shaw had lived up to his potential, it would definitely bring on Martial and Rashfords game leaps and bounds.

Still many a times under luis enrique it was the telepathic understanding and threatening movement between the MSN on the counter and between Mbappe neymar and cavani which does the damage on the counter and neymar's movement is top class even if he's not getting support from the fullback. Martial even with no support and enough space to exploit stays wide and brings the ball away from the goal outside his fullback when inside he could be one one one with a simple throughball from matic or pogba.
 
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