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That was his interpretation, Nick. He wasn't trying to stir shit up. No way.

If a person listened to that post match interview and heard anything other than praise for Martial they're either missing some brain function or blinded by an agenda of some kind.

edit: or lying.
 
Who cares even if it was a bad shot, he won us the game.
There's probably a reason Mourinho mentioned that it was a scuffed shot. We can only guess what that is, but maybe it's something to do with encouraging Martial to take more chances rather than waiting for the perfect moment to come. He's only taken 10 shots in the league all season.

Mourinho knows what he's doing.
 
It was unnecessary. Dont remember him saying that when Rashford bounced one it like that a few weeks. No interest in getting wrapped up in this stuff today anyway. We won
Sincerely hope you’re on a wide up and don’t genuinely read into things this much?
 
An interpretation. Thank you. Not sure I agree with your interpretation but it's infinitely better than just being called a cnut or a liar :lol:

I still think he was saying those who are questioning his choice of players are perhaps not red devils. Arguing over who plays is part of being a supporter. We're all looking for the same thing. I've been supporting them my whole life. I have little doubt most supporters love the club a lot more than he does so I resent the suggestion

The comments were vague but you're interpreting it in the most negative way possible, basically. You might be right but there's a very good chance you're way off base.

Mourinho went out of his way to say Martial also does well when he starts too, immediately before the comments in question. That sorta points in the opposite direction of your personal interpretation with regards to the "not red devils" thing - don't you think?
 
I interpreted the "are they red devils" thing as him having a go at our former player pundits.
 
Lukaku
Rashford Zlatan Martial

Looks awesome
I'd get pogba in for Zlatan but agreed. We need to get both Radford and AM into the team. Imagine if we'd done this with a young Rooney and Ronaldo. It just seems pointless to make it one or the other. The goal today showed again that Martial can play from the right. They both can.
 
The comments were vague but you're interpreting it in the most negative way possible, basically. You might be right but there's a very good chance you're way off base.

Mourinho went out of his way to say Martial also does well when he starts too, immediately before the comments in question. That sorta points in the opposite direction of your personal interpretation with regards to the "not red devils" thing - don't you think?

This whole thing has little to do with his thoughts on Martial. He generally praised him today. I took his comment about not being red devils to be aimed at people questioning his selections ie not picking Martial. It doesn't have much relevance to Martial imo.

Some lunatics just overreacted and pulled it into the whole Martial v Jose crap debate. It was a harmless comment but on here it means you get called a cnut, liar etc and a thread gets derailed for 5 pages
 
If a person listened to that post match interview and heard anything other than praise for Martial they're either missing some brain function or blinded by an agenda of some kind.

edit: or lying.

Not sure what you're talking about really. The only slight criticism he made of Martial was saying it was a bad shot.

I took his comment about not being red devils to be aimed towards people questioning his team selections, ie supporters. Maybe it wasn't. But can't really think who else it would have been aimed at.
 
This whole thing has little to do with his thoughts on Martial. He generally praised him today. I took his comment about not being red devils to be aimed at people questioning his selections ie not picking Martial. It doesn't have much relevance to Martial imo.

Some lunatics just overreacted and pulled it into the whole Martial v Jose crap debate. It was a harmless comment but on here it means you get called a cnut, liar etc and a thread gets derailed for 5 pages

A lot of the questioning lately is specifically about Martial. How can that not have much relevance?

The comment you made didn't bother me but I think it was a little disingenuous of you to not quote the full quote - as you made it sound a lot worse than it was.
 
A lot of the questioning lately is specifically about Martial. How can that not have much relevance?

The comment you made didn't bother me but I think it was a little disingenuous of you to not quote the full quote - as you made it sound a lot worse than it was.
Because I felt it was aimed at supporters and not martial. I thought that would be clear from my initial post. Not sure where this confusion came from
 
Because I felt it was aimed at supporters and not martial. I thought that would be clear from my initial post. Not sure where this confusion came from

Yes but never-the-less the Martial comment is very relevant when you look at the whole quote in context.
 
Yes but never-the-less the Martial comment is very relevant when you look at the whole quote in context.

Sorry I'm lost are we talking about the "Not red devils" comment? Really don't think that was directed towards martial at all. Felt it was directed at people criticising his team selections
 
So I should consider the possibility that someone might disagree with my opinion before giving it? Surely that applies to just about any opinion?
No, you should consider what has been said before giving your take and making a cnut of yourself. As you did on this occasion.

No need to dive in. Take a minute to think about things.
 
Remember the stript: José hates Martial.
I don't think he does. Don't think he loves him but they can definitely have a good professional relationship. I just think he's making a mistake by making our two best young attackers fight for the same one position in a team struggling for goals.
 
Very happy for Martial after a difficult game last week. The shot was a bit scuffed but it went in. I don't think Rashford would've scored it if he was on the pitch. The substitution came at the perfect time in that regard.
 
I don't think he does. Don't think he loves him but they can definitely have a good professional relationship. I just think he's making a mistake by making our two best young attackers fight for the same one position in a team struggling for goals.
I agree we should sometimes start both but until now it worked.
 
The bad shot was a comment in jest which was also the truth. If you are a delicate touchy little simpleton, you can probably waste your time over analysing the merits of such. Carry on.
 
Sorry I'm lost are we talking about the "Not red devils" comment? Really don't think that was directed towards martial at all. Felt it was directed at people criticising his team selections

Nobody is saying it was directed at Martial. However Martial is relevant to the discussion if you are claiming it's aimed at supporters for questioning his selection.

Most of the criticism about his selections is for not starting Martial. Yet 30 seconds before the "not red devils" quote he says Martial is also good when he starts.

Do you see the contradiction there in claiming it's aimed at supporters questioning his selections?
 
No, you should consider what has been said before giving your take and making a cnut of yourself. As you did on this occasion.

No need to dive in. Take a minute to think about things.

Perhaps. Generally I feel I've been ok here though. Probably active enough to look a bit over invested and maybe not everyone agrees with me. But at the end of the day I just gave an opinion. I'd rather that than be one of the posrers on here earlier calling other people cnuts and liars over nothing.
 
The only slight criticism he made of Martial was saying it was a bad shot.

It was'nt a critisim it was a obsevation and truth because it was not a perfect sweet shot, and chances are a perfect sweet shot would have been blocked.

Speaking the truth should not be considered as critisism.
 
Nobody is saying it was directed at Martial. However Martial is relevant to the discussion if you are claiming it's aimed at supporters for questioning his selection.

Most of the criticism about his selections is for not starting Martial. Yet 30 seconds before the "not red devils" quote he says Martial is also good when he starts.

Do you see the contradiction there in claiming it's aimed at supporters questioning his selections?

I don't see a contradiction at all. He can question supporters without having to criticise the player.
 
It was'nt a critisim it was a obsevation and truth because it was not a perfect sweet shot, and chances are a perfect sweet shot would have been blocked.

Speaking the truth should not be considered as critisism.

It was at most a slight criticism. Unnecessary but not a big deal at all. Agreed
 
When Martial plays as a striker an scores and rashford being a centre forward too i many times feel we should be the one to take alexis sanchez in our team and play both rashford and martial as stikers alongside lukaku.
 
Not sure what you're talking about really. The only slight criticism he made of Martial was saying it was a bad shot.

I took his comment about not being red devils to be aimed towards people questioning his team selections, ie supporters. Maybe it wasn't. But can't really think who else it would have been aimed at.

It was very clearly aimed at people criticising the players.

[not direct quote but]

Interviewer: that's the 4th time Martial has come on as a sub and scored, he's doing really well in that role

Jose: yes but other times he starts games and performs just as well, even if he might not score as often, just like Rashford and Lukaku, that's why I don't understand when people criticise them.

He then threw in the "are they red devils, I don't know" comment, i.e. hitting out at the people criticising the players.
 
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