Jose is in my good books, don't feck this up please 
9
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 42
- Goals
- 8
- Assists
- 8
- Yellow cards
- 3
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You can't disregard the price tag though. Dortmund have never payed more than 30mil euros for a player. If they choose to reinvest the entirety of the funds from Auba, they're much more likely to do what they did this year, which is spread the funds out over a number of players (Schurrle for 30, Gotze for 22, Dembele for 15, Guerrero for 12, Mor for 9, etc.). They do this because their wage structure doesn't allow them to pay the wages that a 50mil player would warrant and their scouting and player development is light years ahead of where most clubs, including us, are.
Wonder if he was dropped for that back pass against Liverpool? It was what Initiated the corner that lead to their goal. It would be harsh as a million things happened in between but Jose might not have been happy with that.
Either way hope to see him feature on Thursday. He is probably our most potent attack threat after Ibra
Either way hope to see him feature on Thursday. He is probably our most potent attack threat after Ibra
White used, yellow unused.
Can't be bothered to check if this has already been mentioned but what if he isn't playing because the club are wary of paying the €10m they'd have to pay if he scores two more goals? 
Really had a lot of hope for a Shaw-Pogba-Martial left hand side this season. Very disappointing, and both the players and manager to blame for me.
It's disappointing about Martial's lack of impact this season (and Shaw's too). No criticism of Mourinho and it's up to them to prove they should be first choices.
Martial's stats this season are good for the amount of gametime he's been getting. This is just Mourinho trying to do his classic 'big-name sacrifice' at a new club to stamp his authority on the team. Tried it with Schweinsteiger then he realized no one gave a feck so then targeted someone that people actually care about. Nothing can stop it now, just have to wish for a board intervention when he phones Ed and informs him that Martial is surplus to requirements...or as he likes to put it "he asked to leave and I don't stop anyone".
Yeah, I get that feeling with him. We know Jose is an incredibly weak, petty human being and its been a hallmark of his entire managerial career post-Porto so its reasonable to think thats what is happening here. Martial has had poor performances, but dropping him after MOTM performances shows something is wrong.
I swear he was just getting into form? 2 goals in his last 3 games?
Why does he deserve to be dropped? He would've helped us so much against Stoke as Johnson would hardly cope with him.
Bloody hell I hope this doesn't ruin the rest of our season when our widemen can't do anything.
Why does he deserve to be dropped? He would've helped us so much against Stoke as Johnson would hardly cope with him.
Bloody hell I hope this doesn't ruin the rest of our season when our widemen can't do anything.
Tough love, same thing he did with Miki, and is probably doing with Shaw, he'll either rise to it or won't, but we hold all the cards if he does want out in the summer.
Something I've noticed.
Mourinho had fallen out with 3 of his left wingers now including Martial. Last year it was Hazard. Before that was Ronaldo. All of them the best player at their club (Martial was last year).
Hazard and Ronaldo did not like tracking back. I don't think Martial has this problem.
Not sure if it's just a coincidence or if there's something more.
Mourinho had fallen out with 3 of his left wingers now including Martial. Last year it was Hazard. Before that was Ronaldo. All of them the best player at their club (Martial was last year).
Hazard and Ronaldo did not like tracking back. I don't think Martial has this problem.
Not sure if it's just a coincidence or if there's something more.
Somehow being 14th most played player and 3rd most played winger is being sacrificed and comparable to Schweinsteiger training with the reserves.
So many drama queens in here.
Martial's stats are good for his game time, well so are the stats of the other players deserving game time too.
Martial minutes per goals + assists = 138.67
Rashford = 176.625
Mata = 156.45
Lingard = 152
Mkhi = 167
Rooney = 110.13
Coincidentally it is the two that are called shit that have the best stats apart from Martial.
... Which is exactly why cherry-picking stats like that is never a good barometer for measuring a player's quality.
No chance. Two goals could be the difference between 4th or 5th.Can't be bothered to check if this has already been mentioned but what if he isn't playing because the club are wary of paying the €10m they'd have to pay if he scores two more goals?
Funny how you managed to make a mistake only in Martial's stats. He is on 124 minutes.
Not according to transfermarkt where I got everyone's stats from. 1248 minutes with 9 goals + assists. Where are you getting 124 minutes from?
Which is kind of my point against the post above saying he has good stats in his time played. They all have pretty good stats and Rooney has by far the best so it isn't really a good point either way.
I noticed by other player stats that you are using transfermarkt. Transfermarkt has him on 6 goals and 4 assists, so 10 in total.
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/anth...16&verein=&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer_id=
They also have him at 3 assists, so we shouldn't use them at all.
http://www.transfermarkt.com/anthony-martial/profil/spieler/182877
Assists are subjective. Different places have different definitions on what they count as an assist. Even though Martial doesn't have many, he's still produced a decent amount of chances.
Says 3 assists for me. 3 on whoscored as well.
Still shows 4 in all comps for me.
Clean your cache and click again. I have 3 assists, the Europa League doesn't have an assist.
I can see it now, but it shows 4 assists on detailed stats. Weird.
My apologies @limerickcitykid , but it really shows 4 assists on the same page, just in different place.
Yeah. The confusion about statistics as basic as goals and assists just reveal how nascent the use of statistics (particularly advanced metrics) is in football compared to other sports.
That's a great post of yours you linked @Damien by the way.
He's really not being given the opportunity to do well at the moment. He's worked hard and played well in his last few games yet sees himself dropped. Some are trying to make it his fault but I can't agree based on recent performances. Not sure what he can do much differently at the moment.
No worries. Weird that it has a 4 there.
I can't disagree with you.
Would prefer he is sold rather than rot.
A talent like his deserves better nurturing.
A left side of Shaw and Martial is what's needed if we're to get top 4.
These selection choices by Mourinho are a disgrace
A talent like his deserves better nurturing.
A left side of Shaw and Martial is what's needed if we're to get top 4.
These selection choices by Mourinho are a disgrace
I think I read the discussion between you and @snk123 about that as well.
If you can't have agreement with him that Martial had a good game against Liverpool then you should give up if you think I will change my mind.
In my opinion he had a good game overall. So many players fell apart but he was one of the player who tried to create the danger.
Unfortunately the service that Mkhytaryan had on the right side isn't the same what Martial received on the left side, Darmian was watching the whole time only thus Martial lost possession but at the same he did beat his men a few times too. I can only remember Darmian made one run when Martial had the ball, the rest of the times Darmian just stood on the same spot and did nothing at all to support Martial.
The young full back couldn't handle Martial alone, that's why Henderson and Firmino came to help him and closed him down quickly. It took three players to stop him.
Jose's handling of players has and will always be questionable.
Pogba plays shit against pool - doesn't get dropped.
Martial has good first half and a quiet second half - gets dropped from the whole squad.
Must be his attitude in training because not being even on the bench doesn't really add up.
Martial has good first half and a quiet second half - gets dropped from the whole squad.
Must be his attitude in training because not being even on the bench doesn't really add up.
I am actually convinced there is nothing to this. In a few months time this will be resolved whatever "this" is.
Wouldn't be surprised if Pogba is given a bit more leeway than most but there is a key difference in who replaces Pogba though? Martial has Mkhi, Rashford, Mata, Lingard, and Rooney to come in. Pogba has Rooney as well and Fellaini who was already in replacing Carrick because he can't play every game and then the sidelined Schweinsteiger but Mourinho has no reason or eagerness to be fitting him in place of Pogba like he does for the likes Mkhi, Rashford etc.
Few stats I posted in another thread. Will post more in the morning.
To be fair, there ARE something wrong in his camp. Whining publicly about the shirt number at the beginning of the season. Saying publicly they're considering a move to Seville. Saying "publicly" they are unhappy with treatment.
I have a feeling Martial is paying for his agent big Mouth.
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