Thought he did very well today. I think if Mourinho put Mhki at leftback with him there, their RB would have been in trouble.
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Thought it was harsh subbing him off. He was our most threatening player.
I think the core problem was, Martial was giving their youngster a hard time, so they loaded up on him and Darmian simply can't offer enough up front to help him. As well as I thought Darmian did at the back, that is a problem. While Tony V can't cross well to save his life, he at least offers something going forward.
They had 3 players on him at all times. He wasn't great but Darmian offered him no support whatsoever.
Oh yeah that was more of a general criticism to be honest. His movement is something for him to work on.
Wasn't at his best but I still thought it was odd for him to be brought off.
Was lazy today. Played well the first 15 mins then performance dropped drastically. Very static.
Thought it was bizarre to sub him off, he looked like a threat every time he got the ball.
I wouldn't have subbed him off.
If we had replaced Carrick with Mata, we could have kept him on or even bring on Rashford. Hamstrung by our version of Steven Gerrard.
Am I right in saying he seems less confident to go on the outside in comparison to last season?
how shite was that liverpool RB? was appalling. I have seen better performances from Donald Love
Don't think he should have been subbed off, wasn't his best game but he didn't do that terrible.
Wouldn't make sense for his own performance level to suddenly and drastically drop. More likely we just stopped getting the ball to him in good positions.
I think this has happened a few times this season and he usually ends up paying for it. Should have stayed on.
He needs more support from his LB. Shaw has got to get back asap. One thing Blind does very well is offer support to him. I think it's very much a part of why he was so good last season.
Are you confusing Pogba with Martial?He was very good today even tho he was marked with 3 men all the time.
Looked dangerous every time he got the ball. Shouldn't have been taken off. He is the one player we have that can actually dribble through players.
José cocked that one up
The 'being marked by 3 defenders' people is half his own problem imo.
Needs better or rather more intelligent off the ball movement. It doesn't help the way the team is set up but he should be able to come in and interchange better like Miki....
Although having said that, Miki/Mata always has a rampaging physical beast in Valencia marauding down that flank so yeah, Martial needs support too.
Needs better or rather more intelligent off the ball movement. It doesn't help the way the team is set up but he should be able to come in and interchange better like Miki....
Although having said that, Miki/Mata always has a rampaging physical beast in Valencia marauding down that flank so yeah, Martial needs support too.
Started off the game brilliantly but faded away as the game progressed. Seemed harsh to see him substituted
Blind playing at LB today would have helped Martial because his distribution up the flank is better and he's more willing to overlap and create space for him. Very evident how much LB is an issue for us. Really need Shaw to get fit and get a run of games.
That chance in the box. Why did he skip over the ball passing in front of him, and letting it go away harmlessly down the left side? That would have been a surefire goal.
I want you to go and check every game that Darmian has started and see if our left winger in that game has done anything at all. And then go and check the games that another LB has started and check our left wingers performance.
When Darmian plays Martial has no support. He is isolated between 3 players all the time. There was a scene today when he was isolated between 3 players, he kept the ball and turned to pass for his partner and there was NO ONE. It's not a coincidence that every time Blind plays our left winger has a good game and when Darmian plays he is aweful.
I don't understand Mou in this subject. He plays Darmian every game and when the game is ruined because of his lack offensive moves he takes him off and brings a striker and somehow people say he has done a mastermind move. Just stop playing that piece of trash.
When Darmian plays Martial has no support. He is isolated between 3 players all the time. There was a scene today when he was isolated between 3 players, he kept the ball and turned to pass for his partner and there was NO ONE. It's not a coincidence that every time Blind plays our left winger has a good game and when Darmian plays he is aweful.
I don't understand Mou in this subject. He plays Darmian every game and when the game is ruined because of his lack offensive moves he takes him off and brings a striker and somehow people say he has done a mastermind move. Just stop playing that piece of trash.
We should have moved him beside Zlatan, Mkh left and Rashford right. But that is hindsight, Rooney did do ok and could have scored on reflection
Refuses to make runs at times which is very infuriating, but will only get better.
Agree with the above. Makes you pray for Shaw to get back to his best ASAP.
Considering the defensive responsibilities put on him, it's difficult to have him constantly run up and down the touchline. As soon as Liverpool has the ball he has to act as a double for Darmian.
I thought it was the wrong call to bring him off as he has a knack of scoring late goals. He looked bright early on but was surrounded by 3 or 4 players every time he had the ball and had no support from Darmian. I prefer him playing with Blind behind him as he has the intelligence to link up well with Martial. It was a big missed opportunity that we didn't try to isolate him with Liverpool's rookie RB more often.
It's not really half his own problem. It's the way Liverpool press. As soon as a player gets the ball you have 3 players crowding him in hope of breaking on the counter. If there's no good passing options, well, good luck. It happened to most of our players, Rooney, Martial, Pogba, Mikhi, Herrera. One touch too many and you're crowded.
In terms of coming in and interchanging better, i don't really think you understand the way Mourinho is setting up the team.
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/statszon...6/team-stats/1/OVERALL_01#tabs-wrapper-anchor
Martial and Mhiki have to very different roles
Jose needs to do better to support martial. Whether it's a supporting LB or a midfielder to help I don't know.
I do know that is able to beat any defender one on one because he is ridiculously quick and skilled.
I don't know how Fergie did it. Giggs and Ronaldo and Nani and Valencia used to get the ball in promising situations against an isolated fullback all the fecking time. Could also have been Scholes putting the ball on their chest from 50 yards away .
I do know that is able to beat any defender one on one because he is ridiculously quick and skilled.
I don't know how Fergie did it. Giggs and Ronaldo and Nani and Valencia used to get the ball in promising situations against an isolated fullback all the fecking time. Could also have been Scholes putting the ball on their chest from 50 yards away .
He seems to be rushing his play too much and not letting his natural play come through.
As he gets more mature it will help him.
IF he gets COUTINHOS level I will be please and somewhat surprised however I don't think he has that level of technique, hope I am wrong because Coutinho is an absolute joy to watch.
As he gets more mature it will help him.
IF he gets COUTINHOS level I will be please and somewhat surprised however I don't think he has that level of technique, hope I am wrong because Coutinho is an absolute joy to watch.
Jose messed up. Shouldn't have taken him off as he had the attention of 3-4 Liverpool players and was still escaping their pressure. We should have used that to release other players that those 3-4 were leaving behind.
Once he went off it allowed them to defend more conventionally against a group of players that only want to play in front of their defence and offer no penetration.
Once he went off it allowed them to defend more conventionally against a group of players that only want to play in front of their defence and offer no penetration.
Van gaal also managed it a lot.
Nothing better and more exciting than see miki or martial one one one with the full back as a Utd fan.
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Because he had a defender sliding in who probably would've blocked it.
He went for the flick and missed it instead.
I hope someone has a gif of that part where he controlled it in the air and then wriggled through a few players near the half way line in the first half, it was mesmerising.
Sitting to the side of the Stretford End gives you a decent view of this and it's been a problem all season, especially in first half. Shaw is even worse at this though – diabolically bad. He barely supports his wide man at all and looks completely confused as to what is role is currently. Whether that is Van Gaal's fault or not, I don't know, but it's no surprise he has 0 goals and 1 assists in his last four seasons of league football, including when he was voted into the PFA Team of the Year.
I think all of our left back options are pretty poor. Was a big fan of getting Blind in the side at the start of the season, but not to be convinced at full back, although I think he should be the current choice.
On the right we have Valencia getting forward like a race horse but no-one making use of him!
Wouldn't have subbed him off personally.
He has no support from the left back and it's impossible to get past 2-3 players consistently.
He has no support from the left back and it's impossible to get past 2-3 players consistently.
This is wrong for today. Darmian was very good today on his low standard this season. Problem is with Martial lack of movement and lack of effort to impose himself into the game. Too many times Martial wants to get fed instead of working hard to offer a passing option for his teammates or getting stuck in and force thing.
How is Darmian supposed to support him when the room is too congested and Martial refuse to mixed up movement to go in field? Getting Darmian drawn up into that situation would leave huge gap in other area which L'pool move than happy to counter on it.
Sometimes in our attacking phase he looks like marking someone instead of move in space. Then weirdly enough, in defensive phase he caught leaving his mark free. About the attacking phase: the Pogba chance. Martial should be the one who made the wide running and support Pogba or even impose himself as the man to be at the receiving end of that pass. Heree he's on his second gear all the way.
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My prediction is he will leave in the summer. Didn't look happy when subbed, mouthing some stuff
I doubt it, but we should look for someone better than him, definitely.
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